EV original handwritten setlists from the 1993 tour

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  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Hey, Paul. Can you email or pm me the link to pj collectors. Thanks.
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  • jaykay20
    jaykay20 Posts: 379
    Come on guys, this seems to be a once in a lifetime opportunity for most of us and now it is more or less ruined because of hairsplitting. In my opinion this is BS and not that Paul organizes a great auction at PJC. Again, thanks Paul and keep it up, please!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    PP193448 said:

    Hey, Paul. Can you email or pm me the link to pj collectors. Thanks.

    Pjcollectors.com
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Too bad this ended this way.

    Anyone thinking that they were going to score one of these for $100 is out of their damn mind. A really quick search of the sale prices of hand written setlists at auction ( not ebay but actual auction houses) will tell you otherwise.

    A Nirvana setlist recently sold for just shy of $10K. The kicker, it was written by Grohl.

    An early U2 setlist just went for close to $6K.

    An Oasis setlist that was a computer printout with some scribbling by Noel Gallagher went for $1,200.

    I'm guessing most of these would go for $1,500 - 3,500 a pop at auction.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    I don't know I think we need more posts about how this is not right, I feel like the we still have sooo much stuff to discuss.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Maybe we'll get some more traffic on PJcollectors!
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    Hopefully the amount they save from auction house fees (Sotheby's / Ebay) can end up doing good for charity.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    edited March 2015

    Too bad this ended this way.

    Anyone thinking that they were going to score one of these for $100 is out of their damn mind. A really quick search of the sale prices of hand written setlists at auction ( not ebay but actual auction houses) will tell you otherwise.

    A Nirvana setlist recently sold for just shy of $10K. The kicker, it was written by Grohl.

    An early U2 setlist just went for close to $6K.

    An Oasis setlist that was a computer printout with some scribbling by Noel Gallagher went for $1,200.

    I'm guessing most of these would go for $1,500 - 3,500 a pop at auction.

    I don't think anyone thought they'd get a 20 year set list hand written by ed for $100. I'm pretty sure the problem is (and again absolutely no disrespect to Paul) the seller gauged interest. It was there. Then a thread was started to see who was interested in what setlist. It was passed around and people were genuinely excited and posted what they were interested in. Everyone then waited for an asking price. When a silent auction was put out it was evident the seller wanted top dollar; and again I am not ridiculing the seller but the notion was passed by the middleman that he wanted to make sure the set list was going to the right home and that this was actually "proven" by a 7 day auction probably pissed a lot of people off.
    As we move forward I really hope Paul doesn't get too mad and not present these awesome memorabilia in the future and I wish everyone with deep pockets good luck in securing their set lists.
    As of today I will be saving up for a hand written set list from my first pj show, randall's island night two.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,223
    mcgruff10 said:

    Too bad this ended this way.

    Anyone thinking that they were going to score one of these for $100 is out of their damn mind. A really quick search of the sale prices of hand written setlists at auction ( not ebay but actual auction houses) will tell you otherwise.

    A Nirvana setlist recently sold for just shy of $10K. The kicker, it was written by Grohl.

    An early U2 setlist just went for close to $6K.

    An Oasis setlist that was a computer printout with some scribbling by Noel Gallagher went for $1,200.

    I'm guessing most of these would go for $1,500 - 3,500 a pop at auction.

    I don't think anyone thought they'd get a 20 year set list hand written by ed for $100. I'm pretty sure the problem is (and again absolutely no disrespect to Paul) the seller gauged interest. It was there. Then a thread was started to see who was interested in what setlist. It was passed around and people were genuinely excited and posted what they were interested in. Everyone then waited for an asking price. When a silent auction was put out it was evident the seller wanted top dollar; and again I am not ridiculing the seller but the notion was passed by the middleman that he wanted to make sure the set list was going to the right home and that this was actually "proven" by a 7 day auction probably pissed a lot of people off.
    As we move forward I really hope Paul doesn't get too mad and not present these awesome memorabilia in the future and I wish everyone with deep pockets good luck in securing their set lists.
    As of today I will be saving up for a hand written set list from my first pj show, randall's island night two.
    I have to answer this, way too many assumptions. I started the thread too early out of excitement ... I was waiting on pricing but it was me who jumped the gun. The seller wasn't fishing.

    I think he was well aware of what he had, without having to come here to gauge interest. That's a ridiculous suggestion.

    I'm big enough to hold my hand up. The seller is a good guy, a real nice dude, and his intentions are genuine and I can't have his motives questioned without putting the facts straight.

    It's too bad the thought that he would want people here to be prioritized in getting these is so hard to understand as a concept. I now believe he should have gone to ebay and cleaned up. You know what? it was me that suggested this place as the ideal place to make his aims possible

    I then suggested Pjc .. But certain folk who need to find something else in their lives decided to cause trouble there too.

    Well as they say you live and you learn. And boy am I learning

    So, it was me who gauged interest here ... Disrespect away
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    edited March 2015
    pdalowsky said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Too bad this ended this way.

    Anyone thinking that they were going to score one of these for $100 is out of their damn mind. A really quick search of the sale prices of hand written setlists at auction ( not ebay but actual auction houses) will tell you otherwise.

    A Nirvana setlist recently sold for just shy of $10K. The kicker, it was written by Grohl.

    An early U2 setlist just went for close to $6K.

    An Oasis setlist that was a computer printout with some scribbling by Noel Gallagher went for $1,200.

    I'm guessing most of these would go for $1,500 - 3,500 a pop at auction.

    I don't think anyone thought they'd get a 20 year set list hand written by ed for $100. I'm pretty sure the problem is (and again absolutely no disrespect to Paul) the seller gauged interest. It was there. Then a thread was started to see who was interested in what setlist. It was passed around and people were genuinely excited and posted what they were interested in. Everyone then waited for an asking price. When a silent auction was put out it was evident the seller wanted top dollar; and again I am not ridiculing the seller but the notion was passed by the middleman that he wanted to make sure the set list was going to the right home and that this was actually "proven" by a 7 day auction probably pissed a lot of people off.
    As we move forward I really hope Paul doesn't get too mad and not present these awesome memorabilia in the future and I wish everyone with deep pockets good luck in securing their set lists.
    As of today I will be saving up for a hand written set list from my first pj show, randall's island night two.
    I have to answer this, way too many assumptions. I started the thread too early out of excitement ... I was waiting on pricing but it was me who jumped the gun. The seller wasn't fishing.

    I think he was well aware of what he had, without having to come here to gauge interest. That's a ridiculous suggestion.

    I'm big enough to hold my hand up. The seller is a good guy, a real nice dude, and his intentions are genuine and I can't have his motives questioned without putting the facts straight.

    It's too bad the thought that he would want people here to be prioritized in getting these is so hard to understand as a concept. I now believe he should have gone to ebay and cleaned up. You know what? it was me that suggested this place as the ideal place to make his aims possible

    I then suggested Pjc .. But certain folk who need to find something else in their lives decided to cause trouble there too.

    Well as they say you live and you learn. And boy am I learning

    So, it was me who gauged interest here ... Disrespect away
    water under the bridge my friend. as I've said a few times, no disrespect to you at all. Good luck to everyone in acquiring a truly amazing piece of pj history.
    but like I said, I think people got mad when it went to a seven day auction. My opinion will always be, you don't gauge a fan by how much money they have.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,223
    What's your solution mike ?

    And seriously does anyone actually read what I type ?
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,223
    You don't gauge a fan by how much money they have?

    Seriously ? Did I suggest you should?
  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    No, you didn't.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    Dude I totally read what you wrote and like I said I have zero problem with the way he is selling the set lists and applaud you going to pjcollectors.com as opposed to ebay. I find his reasoning to find a good home for these set lists a bit........deceptive? deceitful? I can't really put my finger on it.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cockage
    cockage Posts: 465
    Yeah Paul....you really fucked this one up. How dare you try and give us fans the opportunity to own these little pieces of history?!?

    We'll never see another collection like this for sale in our lifetimes. i personally applaud the time and effort you put in to make this a reality for some.....

    And I completely understand you not wanting to share things in the future if this is the 'thanks' you get.

    Seriously....some people need to chill the fuck out.

    These are the same people that remind the teacher that they forgot to assign homework.....
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    Will the final price for each set list be posted publicly on PJC?

    Probably would be helpful for managing people's expectations on future offerings and to help establish a going rate for items of this quality.

    For what its worth... both Mike and Paul seem like first rate people. I doubt either intended to offend the other.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    pdalowsky said:

    You don't gauge a fan by how much money they have?

    Seriously ? Did I suggest you should?

    No you didn't! In my opinion the seller did when going to the auction. Like I said, water under the bridge and absolutely no disrespect you. And once again, hopefully everyone secures a set list they want.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    on2legs said:

    Will the final price for each set list be posted publicly on PJC?

    Probably would be helpful for managing people's expectations on future offerings and to help establish a going rate for items of this quality.

    For what its worth... both Mike and Paul seem like first rate people. I doubt either intended to offend the other.

    Thanks for the kind words! I m sure if Paul and I sat down and had a beer together we d probably see each other s point in 30 seconds when talking face to face as opposed to a message board.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    on2legs said:

    Will the final price for each set list be posted publicly on PJC?

    Probably would be helpful for managing people's expectations on future offerings and to help establish a going rate for items of this quality.

    For what its worth... both Mike and Paul seem like first rate people. I doubt either intended to offend the other.

    Thanks for the kind words! I m sure if Paul and I sat down and had a beer together we d probably see each other s point in 30 seconds when talking face to face as opposed to a message board.
    the bloke doesn't drink!
    :smiley:
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131

    mcgruff10 said:

    on2legs said:

    Will the final price for each set list be posted publicly on PJC?

    Probably would be helpful for managing people's expectations on future offerings and to help establish a going rate for items of this quality.

    For what its worth... both Mike and Paul seem like first rate people. I doubt either intended to offend the other.

    Thanks for the kind words! I m sure if Paul and I sat down and had a beer together we d probably see each other s point in 30 seconds when talking face to face as opposed to a message board.
    the bloke doesn't drink!
    :smiley:
    What?!?! Ok we ll get afternoon tea then! ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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