McCain "low life scum" to protester

Closet commies lol ok Mr McCarthy
It isn't at all relevant to the topic, but I will bite. What socialist societies have you visited? It is interesting that you reference Vietnam, which has been ravaged by war waged by capitalists, ravaged by capitalist outsourcing (particularly in the garment industry), and ravaged by a lack of worker's rights, which are typically provided by the commies. The average textile worker in Vietnam would gladly trade places with the lowest paid workers in such socialist strongholds as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, or our neighbors to the north, Canada.

muskydan wrote: »

Hey G, my old school ways would prefer all sorts of nasty things to happen to murders, rapests, and molesters and I will just leave it at that. I have worked all sorts of protests over the years defending those people you described. Obviously I can never say anything to them while in uniform doing my job protecting them so when I hear and POW hero blast those types of protesters on record I feel I have a voice. I can tell there are a number of closet commies on here that think living in a society like that would be some sort of utopia. I sure hope they have been to a socialist society and seen for your own eyes what it's really like. Books and blogs don't mean shit until you feel it for yourself. And BB, sorry I was late to the party and don't check or post 20 things a day. I am the type of guy who tries to stick with stuff I have seen with my own eyes. And obviously my eyes see things differently than 99% of the people on here. I would think it would be great to have someone on here that goes against most people's views instead of the stroke each other off sessions I always read.

Railing against commies and socialists, nice…. I bet you think the US is a democracy, right? It’s not. If I can share your condescension in calling people ignorantly utopian, then I’ll give you a pass if you want to call it a constitutional republic. But if we want to be realistic, lets call it what it really is – an oligarchy. Just like pinko RUSSIA.
So many layers of irony in thinking that ‘feeling’ Vietnam is legit reassurance of the US’s ideological superiority. We have to go to a third world country to understand the evils of socialism….right?
Seeing what it’s ‘really like’ to be in a socialist society can be ‘felt’ in a short vacation to Vietnam? Would you go to Venezuela and come back telling us how badly socialism has fucked that country up, too?…when the situation for the poor in Venezuela improved immensely due to socialist policy, resource barter practices, and localized communal council? They decreased extreme poverty by 70% in a few years. How do you think the US came out of the great depression? War….and socialist infrastructure investment.
But hey….if you support a war monger like McCain, who in turn admires and supports the super-elite of hawks – Kissinger – I would fully expect a dearth of perspective. Kissinger is the ‘brains’ behind the slaughter of millions in southeast Asia. He was the principal architect of the overthrow of Allende and the rise of Pinochet. I wouldn’t even know where to begin with a body count resulting from his policies. McCain would have been worse if anyone took him seriously enough to give him the reigns. If all you care about is US hegemony, these guys are right up your alley…..and any system designed for wealth equality (socialism) really IS evil.
I don’t give a fuck if Kissinger is 91 with a busted shoulder. Two years ago, a 98 year old was detained for WW2 war crimes and died while awaiting trial. Fuck Kissinger, he doesn’t get a pass for being old. And fuck McCain too -The guy has been photographed meeting with both ISIS members and Ukrainian Nazi’s in the past year…..all the while calling for war against countries that support fascists and extremists. He is 10x the low life these harmless protesters are.

I guess when you keep your fleshlight lined with the stars n bars it's easy to look down on progressive thought as a circle jerk.

BS44325 wrote: »

Code Pink inserting itself into a senate hearing is free speech that must be defended.
Discussing science in The Train Lounge Car is bad behaviour and creates conflict.

You people confuse me.

Bs-the lounge is a sacred temple of booze ,buds ,friendship and calm.An oasis of zen.Chillax zone.A place to breathe.I shoulda known better.my bad.

I brought up the question so sorry I got ya scolded.

rgambs wrote: »

""BS44325 wrote: »
Code Pink inserting itself into a senate hearing is free speech that must be defended.
Discussing science in The Train Lounge Car is bad behaviour and creates conflict.

You people confuse me.""

"Bs-the lounge is a sacred temple of booze ,buds ,friendship and calm.An oasis of zen.Chillax zone.A place to breathe.I shoulda known better.my bad.

I brought up the question so sorry I got ya scolded."


RR, I was the one who made it into a conflict, the blame lies solely on me!

BS44, I get where you are coming from, but it isn't as inconsistent as it seems at first glance. First, many of us (me for sure) condemned that expression of free speech by Code Pink as bad behavior, and wouldn't deny it caused conflict. Second, nobody called you low life scum or anything nasty, and being asked nicely to discontinue a line of expression is not censorship, being threatened with consequences for a line of expression is. I don't think that's what happened. I could be wrong, it happens alot.
Third, it is a huge difference between this privately owned and operated forum that we pay to use and the public hearings at which Kissinger was heckled. It was poor taste, but I would argue that often the most effective dissent is rooted in it's ability to shock, upset, and overturn entrenched notions. I support Code Pink's actions and motivation, but I support their right to express themselves even more, and lowlife scum is a ridiculous thing for a man who has killed people to call someone who raises their voice and jangles some handcuffs.
The lounge car is exactly an oasis of zen, perfectly stated RR, because we work together to keep it that way. People like Lux, RR, and Hedobabe particularly, offer peace and welcome to all there, and I consider them friends in a real sense. It is the only place in the entire forum where I have felt such a welcome, and that's something worth preserving.

Here,Here young bearded Jedi.
Now let's have a sifter or 3 of BSs Knob Creek.They have a nice Cinnamon whiskey as well I believe.I am heading over to the lounge after dinner .

rgambs wrote: »

Once upon a time I had quite the taste for Knob Creek, but I am not a big bourbon guy anymore, I've gone across the pond. Suites me, I am much more of a Robert Burns than Walt Whitman kinda fella!

We have a cute little Cuban Barkeep at our new go to Bar/Sushi joint who has been making us her signature creation.shots with some Tequilla,ruby red grapefruit juice and some other unknown ingredients.they are Very tastee,and she's very generous.Add them in with our usual saki bombs and it packs quit the pep for a weekend night.But the next day,stomach gets a wee bit twisted,So I am also trying to limit the hard stuff.Just beer this week I think.