McCain "low life scum" to protester

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs wrote: »
    "And damn dude,you think mainstream dems are to conservative?Are you for real? Do you really fall that far left?"

    There is no far left. There are no socialists, no communists, no radicals in office on the left. It is a myth perpetrated by the likes of Limbaugh and OReilly. How can you suggest the Dem party is too liberal when they wholeheartedly accept TARP, Iraq war, Patriot Act, NSA spying, whistleblower prosecution, capital cronyism, Citizens United etc. etc...

    I disagree Gambsy.I think both sides of the isle have a fringe few who are way out there.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited January 2015
    78% disapproval rating for congress. Man, they should be PROUD.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,288
    according to what poll? They havent done shit yet.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Shit! My bad Mickey, I miss typed that shit. It's supposed to be "disapproval"
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited January 2015
    See my post about polls in the XL Pipeline thread, last post.

    Mainstream Dems are too conservative. But that's beside the point. Every single thing we know about politicians and people actually are applauding McCain of all people? For being an asshole? We may as well applaud Bill Belichick for insisting he knows nothing about deflatgate yet was caught cheating in 2007.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    rr165892 wrote: »
    Gimme,First if by newer around here you mean the last 11 years ok then.Btw this is actually my second stint had an account in mid 90s I let go and my number took a hit.But anyway...

    Cruz,Santorum,Boehner,etc are all worse IMO.and no I don't put patriotism as a litmus test for the office,but I respect people who don't just talk a good game but have put in the time and experience into making this country better.I am not a fan of the current admin,but I respect the office and respect the fact that Obama THINKS he is always doing what's in this countries best interest.And damn dude,you think mainstream dems are to conservative?Are you for real? Do you really fall that far left?

    i was going by your post count, and the fact that i only first noticed you in the mike brown ferguson threads. sorry if i assumed incorrectly.

    i agree with you when you say those people are worse. it shows that you can recognize the kooks as well as i can.

    i am glad that you respect the office, because there is not a single republican in the house or senate that does.

    and yes, to me, mainstream dems are too conservative on the issues that matter to me. the funny thing is, the conservative parties in most other countries are more to the left than the mainstream democratic party. they laugh when i tell them that the dems are considered to be on the liberal end of things.

    i had an australian girlfriend who always used to tell me "americans invented 2 things. patriotism, and size XXXXL shorts"... i still smile when i think of that one...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    rr165892 wrote: »
    Anytime I hear or feel anger in one side or the other as they argue their case,it raises red flags with me in said persons ability to see things unbiasedly.I think this is a huge problem with the current state of affairs in gov and with pundits today.I get the passion,and interest but no one so blinded with anger is even willing to see positive qualities in the other sides ideas or thoughts and this divides not brings us closer to compromise.Not to single you out Rod,I'm talking in general.

    i knew you weren't singling me out. i did not take it as such.

    i am angry because we have wasted 6 years trying to move forth an agenda and the other side can only say no, and offer no viable alternatives. then you have boehner who has already sued the president for not implementing a clause that republicans have been against since day. one. see that? suing for NOT implementing something that they opposed. now boehner is going to sue him again. it is frustrating and it is maddening. i just want to call every one of them and say "THIS CONCERNED TAX PAYER IS ASKING YOU TO STOP PLAYING POLITICS AND FUCKING DO WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO!!!!!"
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    edited January 2015
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    See my post about polls in the XL Pipeline thread, last post.

    Mainstream Dems are too conservative. But that's beside the point. Every single thing we know about politicians and people actually are applauding McCain of all people? For being an asshole? We may as well applaud Bill Belichick for insisting he knows nothing about deflatgate yet was caught cheating in 2007.

    personally i think this backfired on mccain. everyone is complaining about how he handled it. had he said nothing, the codepink movement would have gotten no coverage. now codepink is getting free press.

    way to go senator hothead. well done.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    rgambs wrote: »
    "And damn dude,you think mainstream dems are to conservative?Are you for real? Do you really fall that far left?"

    There is no far left. There are no socialists, no communists, no radicals in office on the left. It is a myth perpetrated by the likes of Limbaugh and OReilly. How can you suggest the Dem party is too liberal when they wholeheartedly accept TARP, Iraq war, Patriot Act, NSA spying, whistleblower prosecution, capital cronyism, Citizens United etc. etc...

    bernie sanders is a socialist who caucuses with the dems.

    sanders and elizabeth warren are the only true progressives in all of congress.

    to be fair to the dems of 2001-2003 though, they initially had to vote for the patriot act, or they would have been branded as unamerican evildoers. renewing it is what i blame them for.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited January 2015
    True progressives are laughed out of politics by the media, pushed out of being status quo influential because we're considered "radical". Yeah, wanting positive change in this country and you're considered a radical. But if you are a Democrat, a "status quo" dem, you are welcome to stay as long as you don't talk about taking care of anyone but ourselves (you socialist!), welcome fossil fuels (to cater the FF industries and receive money from their lobbyists), and you don't stir the pot. Any of it.

    Because the basis of this country is to keep the people sheep and asleep. We don't want any progressives to actually get people thinking...
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    gimmesometruth27 wrote: »
    to be fair to the dems of 2001-2003 though, they initially had to vote for the patriot act, or they would have been branded as unamerican evildoers. renewing it is what i blame them for.

    Status quo. Stay aligned with the status quo and you stay a part of American politics.There is no room for independent thought or voice in American politics or you get branded an unpatriotic evil doer.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    gimmesometruth27 wrote: »
    rgambs wrote: »
    "And damn dude,you think mainstream dems are to conservative?Are you for real? Do you really fall that far left?"

    There is no far left. There are no socialists, no communists, no radicals in office on the left. It is a myth perpetrated by the likes of Limbaugh and OReilly. How can you suggest the Dem party is too liberal when they wholeheartedly accept TARP, Iraq war, Patriot Act, NSA spying, whistleblower prosecution, capital cronyism, Citizens United etc. etc...

    bernie sanders is a socialist who caucuses with the dems.

    sanders and elizabeth warren are the only true progressives in all of congress.

    to be fair to the dems of 2001-2003 though, they initially had to vote for the patriot act, or they would have been branded as unamerican evildoers. renewing it is what i blame them for.

    Gimme the only problem with Bernie Sanders is that he may become Dennis Kucinich, whom the media ridiculed and got rid of. Sanders has to be very careful he doesn't become the next victim.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I would welcome the brave politician from either party who had the stones to buck the system.Run on a 1 term platform.No worries about campaign finance and the heavy porked up good ol' boy network bullshit.
    I know it won't happen,But it's sure nice to think one day it could.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    But RR, to me you come across very much a republican. I could be wrong. But you're pretty adamant of your views that lean that way. So getting a candidate to buck the system doesn't really sound like someone who holds your views. Maybe I'm reading your views wrong? Idk. Doesn't sound like something someone with your strong views would want. Again, I could be reading your posts wrong.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I'm not a republican Nart.Im a proud independent.I vote for who I think will be the best person for the job Its true I usually lean Rep but I don't follow any party line.I am Fiscally conservative,And don't think bigger Govt is the answer to what ails us.I want a better Govt.Im not an abuse of/Overdoing entitlement fan.And of course I'm for a strong Foriegn policy and common sense taxation.But at the same time socially I'm pretty progressive.Im a live and let live guy.Im pro choice,pro legalized MJ,pro stem cell research,could care less who someone marries,or what religion or not someone worships.And there are concepts of Obama care I think are a great step forward(other parts not so much).I am also concerned about the environment and pushing forward with common sense alternative and sustainable energy.
    The Religious right and much of the Tea Party platform is not in line with a lot of my values.Same can be said for people like Reed,Feinstein,Pelosi.
    As a buisness owner It's hard not to lean right on many issues.I find myself weighing out the positive and negative impacts policy has on me and how the world I live in is affected.And choosing who and what to support based on that criteria.There are a few issues I feel very strong about and they usually trump other issues when it comes down to it.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    He is refusing to apologize for "low life scum"

    John McCain Stands By Calling Protesters 'Low-Life Scum': 'I Think They're Terrible People'
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he will not apologize for calling protesters "low-life scum" at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing earlier this week.

    "I think they're terrible people," McCain said of Code Pink, the women-led grassroots peace and social justice group that protested the hearing, in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union."

    Code Pink brought signs and handcuffs into the hearing to protest the presence of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, demanding that he be arrested for his role in alleged war crimes during the Nixon and Ford administrations. The protesters objected to the U.S.'s use of the poisonous chemical Agent Orange in the Vietnam War, the bombing of Cambodia and other issues.

    McCain, the chairman of the committee, became particularly enraged when a member of the group dangled handcuffs over Kissinger's head. "You're gonna have to shut up or I'm going to have you arrested," McCain said at the hearing. "Get out of here, you low-life scum."

    The Arizona Republican said Sunday that he stands by his comments because the protesters went beyond the bounds of constitutional free speech.

    "I think they're terrible people that would do that to a 91-year old man with a broken shoulder, to physically threaten him," McCain said. "That is beyond any normal behavior I have ever observed."

    "I'm used to people popping up at these these hearings and yelling, and they're escorted out -- that's at least some version of free speech," he added. "These people rushed up, they were right next to him, waving handcuffs. He's a 91-year old man with a broken shoulder who was willing to come down and testify before Congress to give us the benefit of his many years of wisdom."

    McCain said Kissinger is the greatest statesman of his lifetime, maybe even "the whole 20th century."

    "Of course I was outraged, and I am still outraged," he told CNN. "It's one thing to stand up and protest. It's something else to physically threaten an individual, particularly an individual who has served so much to his country."
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Way to be Mr. McCain....I couldn't think of a better way to describe those idiots as low life scum. You sir never ever ever need to apologize to any Clueless protester. To all those who always seem to think they are smarter than everyone else in the room I sure hope you have travelled this big world of our's and better yet to a Socialist society...All of these people want to be is free and do and say things they believe in. That's been my on the scene opinion in this fascinating country of Vietnam. This country is exploding with opportunity, but it just will NOT happen totally according to all the business owner I have talked to until the government and commie ways are eliminated.....
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,288
    ^^^^which has nothing to with this thread.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited February 2015
    "I couldn't think of a better way to describe those idiots as low life scum. You sir never ever ever need to apologize to any Clueless protester."

    Yes, because those who exercise their right to free speech are "low life scum". Some people "always seem to think they are smarter than everyone else in the room" so you are going to tell them how they are wrong because you went to a country that we dropped more bombs on than were dropped in the entirety of WWII and talked to some business owners? You jangle on about freedom but is it just a word to you? Freedom of speech? Nahh. Arrest the scum. But, wait, "All of these people want to be is free and do and say things they believe in."
    Which is it gonna be?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited February 2015
    If people who protest in poor taste are lowlife scum, what does that make rapists, murderers, and molesters?
    I seriously would like an aswer to this.

    For that matter, if protesting Agent Orange and secret bombing campaigns with handcuffs makes you lowlife scum, what do you call a man who votes to send American Troops to an illegal conflict under false pretense and then votes against the bill which would extend the proper benefits and support to the veterans of that particular illegal conflict??
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