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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    edited January 2015
    From ESPN:

    BREAKING: Broncos and head coach John Fox mutually agree to part ways. (via @AdamSchefter)
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    JimmyV wrote: »
    From ESPN:

    BREAKING: Broncos and head coach John Fox mutually agree to part ways. (via @AdamSchefter)

    That smells like Peyton may be retiring to me.
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    Yeah I can't see Peyton starting over with a new coach/team. Stick a fork in him- he's done.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    We'll see. If they promote the OC, Gase, it could be an attempt to lure Peyton back. John Elway may want to blame John Fox and try again. Otherwise he carries quite a bit of responsibility since he built the team.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Wonder if the Bills have some buyer's remorse with Fox suddenly available?
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    JimmyV wrote: »
    Wonder if the Bills have some buyer's remorse with Fox suddenly available?

    They should.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,870
    Denver should hire Trestman
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  • g under p
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    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »
    Yeah I can't see Peyton starting over with a new coach/team. Stick a fork in him- he's done.

    Especially with 9 "1 & DONE" on his resume in playoff appearances. The writing is on the wall.

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    Petyon and the Juggler should both go out together. one has won his last tile and the other is way too concerned about why someone is a fan of certain teams. #enoughalready
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    pjhawks wrote: »
    Petyon and the Juggler should both go out together. one has won his last tile and the other is way too concerned about why someone is a fan of certain teams. #enoughalready

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
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    ah good ole Juggler. only he could say something can't be done even after it was done. respect the stubbornness though big guy. probably doesn't think we can land a man on the moon even though we already did it :))

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    Sorry pal. Your dream of teams throwing the ball 80% of the time, consistently, will never, ever happen. Occasionally if the defense proves they cannot stop something, the other team should exploit it to death like the Pats did in the second half on Saturday. When you have one of the best qbs to ever play the game going up against a makeshift secondary, this becomes easier to do. Unfortunately most teams don't have one of the best qb's to ever play the game going up against that kind of a secondary, which is one of the reasons this hardly happens--case in point, every other playoff game thus far this year. Exceptions to rules, tend to happen sometimes.

    Folks, keep in mind, this is a guy who wanted to throw the ball 80% of the time with one, Michael Vick under center. Completely idiotic.

    ah never let the facts get in the way of a rant. never once did i say the Eagles with Michael Vick should throw the ball 80% of the time. i said my ideal offense, under today's passing rules, would throw that ball that much.

    repeat ZERO rushes in a half but you have to run because the d would tee off on your quarterback haha too fucking funny

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    Fella, did you see any other team not run the ball once in a half yesterday, Saturday, or in any of the 4 games last week? You saw a hall of fame quarterback do that against a banged up secondary who was unable to stop him. I don't know what your point is. Do you think this is the ideal way to win football games? By not running the ball once? Go peak your head into the Patriots thread and ask them if that is a consistent recipe for success. Go ask any Cowboy fan how their newfound reliance on their running game got them to 12 wins, and a playoff win after years of an out of whack run/pass ratio netted them nothing but mediocre football.

    There have been 16 halves of football played this post season. 15 of them featured mostly balanced run/pass ratios (60-40% or so). You see one that doesn't (with a hall of fame qb and a banged up secondary) and you somehow think that proves something. hahaha

    And yeah, you wanted Reid to throw the ball over 40 times a game with Mike Vick. Thus, the genesis of this stupid argument that you bring up over and over again. Idiocy. This isn't arena football.



    i guess i shouldn't expect the guy who a few years ago said the Pats were winning because of Steven Ridley running the football and not because they had Tom Brady as their QB to fully grasp the concept that a pass by Tom Brady is always better for the Pats and worse for the defense. always.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    Denver let the entire staff go. Crazy. I thought Gase would have been their guy after they let Fox go.
  • The Juggler
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    edited January 2015
    pjhawks wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
    ah good ole Juggler. only he could say something can't be done even after it was done. respect the stubbornness though big guy. probably doesn't think we can land a man on the moon even though we already did it :))

    ous.

    Sorry pal. Your dream of teams throwing the ball 80% of the time, consistently, will never, ever happen. Occasionally if the defense proves they cannot stop something, the other team should exploit it to death like the Pats did in the second half on Saturday. When you have one of the best qbs to ever play the game going up against a makeshift secondary, this becomes easier to do. Unfortunately most teams don't have one of the best qb's to ever play the game going up against that kind of a secondary, which is one of the reasons this hardly happens--case in point, every other playoff game thus far this year. Exceptions to rules, tend to happen sometimes.

    Folks, keep in mind, this is a guy who wanted to throw the ball 80% of the time with one, Michael Vick under center. Completely idiotic.

    ah never let the facts get in the way of a rant. never once did i say the Eagles with Michael Vick should throw the ball 80% of the time. i said my ideal offense, under today's passing rules, would throw that ball that much.

    repeat ZERO rushes in a half but you have to run because the d would tee off on your quarterback haha too fucking funny

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    Fella, did you see any other team not run the ball once in a half yesterday, Saturday, or in any of the 4 games last week? You saw a hall of fame quarterback do that against a banged up secondary who was unable to stop him. I don't know what your point is. Do you think this is the ideal way to win football games? By not running the ball once? Go peak your head into the Patriots thread and ask them if that is a consistent recipe for success. Go ask any Cowboy fan how their newfound reliance on their running game got them to 12 wins, and a playoff win after years of an out of whack run/pass ratio netted them nothing but mediocre football.

    There have been 16 halves of football played this post season. 15 of them featured mostly balanced run/pass ratios (60-40% or so). You see one that doesn't (with a hall of fame qb and a banged up secondary) and you somehow think that proves something. hahaha

    And yeah, you wanted Reid to throw the ball over 40 times a game with Mike Vick. Thus, the genesis of this stupid argument that you bring up over and over again. Idiocy. This isn't arena football.



    i guess i shouldn't expect the guy who a few years ago said the Pats were winning because of Steven Ridley running the football and not because they had Tom Brady as their QB to fully grasp the concept that a pass by Tom Brady is always better for the Pats and worse for the defense. always.


    their running game aided tom brady in past years. a decent running game helps any quarterback.....that is why the cowboys made the leap they did this year--because of a commitment to the running game (they ran it 52% of the time).

    go into the pats thread and ask them if throwing the ball as much as they did in the 2nd half is a good recipe for consistent success. ask someone in the cowboys thread the same thing. what your suggesting is ridiculous.

    the pats were 12-4 with a healthy 58/42 pass/run ratio this year and that's without any kind of rb one would call elite. but you have to keep defenses honest and protect your qb. this is probably the best season and most complete team they've had in a decade. shockingly they did not throw it 80% of the time.

    throwing the ball 80% of the time will never win you anything other than an arena bowl championship. beat it with this nonsense.
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  • DewieCox
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    Peyton Manning's career is a testament to the point you're making, Juggler. I also think it's a big part of the Pats inablility to win the big one. They won those SB's before Brady was viewed as anything special, but once he started getting hype, they started focusing more on passing the ball.

    It's no coincidence that defensive teams with solid run games ALWAYS win the big one.

  • F Me In The Brain
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    49ers are buttholes if they hire gase. I will be so pissed. Peyton was the OC of that team and even if he wasn't they flamed out when it mattered most. (Because they couldn't run the ball. Juggler and Dewie are right. You must be able to run....doesn't have to be all you do but you have to have running as a real threat to win a Super Bowl.)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    No, but they will as soon as 'ol Rex takes the podium in his first press conference as head coach and claims they're going to the Super Bowl.null
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    According to Espn, John Fox is interviewing for the bears job. That would be an excellent choice for them. To bad buffalo had to hire Rex as soon as possible!
  • MayDay10
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    Why would you want Fox in Buffalo? I don't think he is a good fit at all, and I would consider his job in Denver to be a pretty colossal failure. That team is stacked.
  • Wobbie
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    Halifax2TheMax wrote: »
    No, but they will as soon as 'ol Rex takes the podium in his first press conference as head coach and claims they're going to the Super Bowl.null

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  • pjhawks
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    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    pjhawks wrote: »
    ah good ole Juggler. only he could say something can't be done even after it was done. respect the stubbornness though big guy. probably doesn't think we can land a man on the moon even though we already did it :))

    ous.

    Sorry pal. Your dream of teams throwing the ball 80% of the time, consistently, will never, ever happen. Occasionally if the defense proves they cannot stop something, the other team should exploit it to death like the Pats did in the second half on Saturday. When you have one of the best qbs to ever play the game going up against a makeshift secondary, this becomes easier to do. Unfortunately most teams don't have one of the best qb's to ever play the game going up against that kind of a secondary, which is one of the reasons this hardly happens--case in point, every other playoff game thus far this year. Exceptions to rules, tend to happen sometimes.

    Folks, keep in mind, this is a guy who wanted to throw the ball 80% of the time with one, Michael Vick under center. Completely idiotic.

    ah never let the facts get in the way of a rant. never once did i say the Eagles with Michael Vick should throw the ball 80% of the time. i said my ideal offense, under today's passing rules, would throw that ball that much.

    repeat ZERO rushes in a half but you have to run because the d would tee off on your quarterback haha too fucking funny

    .

    Fella, did you see any other team not run the ball once in a half yesterday, Saturday, or in any of the 4 games last week? You saw a hall of fame quarterback do that against a banged up secondary who was unable to stop him. I don't know what your point is. Do you think this is the ideal way to win football games? By not running the ball once? Go peak your head into the Patriots thread and ask them if that is a consistent recipe for success. Go ask any Cowboy fan how their newfound reliance on their running game got them to 12 wins, and a playoff win after years of an out of whack run/pass ratio netted them nothing but mediocre football.

    There have been 16 halves of football played this post season. 15 of them featured mostly balanced run/pass ratios (60-40% or so). You see one that doesn't (with a hall of fame qb and a banged up secondary) and you somehow think that proves something. hahaha

    And yeah, you wanted Reid to throw the ball over 40 times a game with Mike Vick. Thus, the genesis of this stupid argument that you bring up over and over again. Idiocy. This isn't arena football.



    i guess i shouldn't expect the guy who a few years ago said the Pats were winning because of Steven Ridley running the football and not because they had Tom Brady as their QB to fully grasp the concept that a pass by Tom Brady is always better for the Pats and worse for the defense. always.


    throwing the ball 80% of the time will never win you anything other than an arena bowl championship. beat it with this nonsense.

    except a playoff game against a really good defensive team just last week . ah so much for facts

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