I'm sorry to be the guy, but it's complete BS

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    Time to take this noise to that 10c group on Facebook. I thought this place was full of drama llamas!
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  • jomary
    jomary Posts: 410
    Moline posters were printed with unicorn tears, St Paul regular horse tears, hence why they just can't print more (major sarcasm here).

    I just don't understand why they can't figure out the demand, especially after the fact, or just do a pre order and see how many people buy them then just print that many.

    Its not rocket science.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    JB128716 said:

    JB128716 said:

    Start your own band and do it differently

    Saw Lemmy say this back in the day when people were stage diving and someone knocked over his mike stand.

    He basically yelled at the kid for getting on his stage and then told him if he didn't like it, he should start his own band and do it differently.

    That always stayed with me.

    Well, 10c Tim is quoted as saying this on the PJ Radio thing a few years back.
    which was pretty ironic since he's the president of a FAN CLUB.

    :-O
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  • Given2Fly-Fish
    Given2Fly-Fish Posts: 826
    SN28575 said:

    I can't believe that they do not want to eliminate the secondary market. If you attend a show via 10C ticket sales, you get a code tied to your ticket sale to get your poster, sticker, shirt, pin, whatever show specific merch. You order it by a set date. Then they know what to make. Deliver it to my door, and whalla, happy fan, happy artist, happy 10C, bye bye secondary market! I have spent 15 hours in in lines between Wrigley, Moline, and Milwaukee and got shut out on posters at all three. Today, the virtual line was just a frustrating as a show. Gee, what will happen on Black Friday for the Milwaukee release? Only left to wonder....

    I think that this is an excellent idea. It would be great if you could pre-order merch prior to a show by a set date. I have no idea how feasible this is however, with available resources etc. I would think that PJ could sell more merch this way. I also think that it may be a challenge for 10C with having show specific merch (and no one wants that to go away!). It is a shame that people cant get stuff for a show that they attended...On another note, the stories about people buying multiple posters at shows is complete BS.
  • Empty Glass
    Empty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    JB128716 said:

    JB128716 said:

    Start your own band and do it differently

    Saw Lemmy say this back in the day when people were stage diving and someone knocked over his mike stand.

    He basically yelled at the kid for getting on his stage and then told him if he didn't like it, he should start his own band and do it differently.

    That always stayed with me.

    Well, 10c Tim is quoted as saying this on the PJ Radio thing a few years back.
    Kind of comes across like he's in the band. Well, he seemed to in those round tables. Maybe he's a great guy.

    He mentioned selling the posters here (or having pre-sales maybe) would kill the secondary market...so, kill it.
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  • Given2Fly-Fish
    Given2Fly-Fish Posts: 826

    He mentioned selling the posters here (or having pre-sales maybe) would kill the secondary market...so, kill it.

    What am I missing here? What value is there to the band for a secondary market for posters?
  • Empty Glass
    Empty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    Given2Fly-Fish said:


    What am I missing here? What value is there to the band for a secondary market for posters?

    Exactly
    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    I think we need to step back and see that for each of the last several tours (even maybe to 2006) there is at most 1 or 2 posters that sell out quick on the webpage.
  • Given2Fly-Fish
    Given2Fly-Fish Posts: 826
    bootlegger10 said:

    I think we need to step back and see that for each of the last several tours (even maybe to 2006) there is at most 1 or 2 posters that sell out quick on the webpage.

    OK, but what about waiting hours in line only to get shut out at the venue? Then you have to hope that there will be extra's sold online at a later date? I just hate to see people shut out that attend a show, and then have to shell out serious $$ on the secondary market. Look, we are talking about posters & stickers here. If there is a way for the band to make more money and provide a way to have merchandise more easily attainable for fans that attend shows, everyone wins, right? For the serious collector, there will always be a way and a means to get what they want...
  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    I don't know how the band are expected to second guess the poster sales when very few actually hit this level of demand and the majority sit in the store until they are either vastly reduced in price or put in mystery boxes/tubes. We have created this merch monster ourselves so I find the bitching hilariously ironic. The day PJ start catering to everyone's needs successfully and the complaint threads miraculously disappears I'll eat Big Bank Hank's pink corduroys.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,322
    Given2Fly-Fish said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    I think we need to step back and see that for each of the last several tours (even maybe to 2006) there is at most 1 or 2 posters that sell out quick on the webpage.

    OK, but what about waiting hours in line only to get shut out at the venue? Then you have to hope that there will be extra's sold online at a later date? I just hate to see people shut out that attend a show, and then have to shell out serious $$ on the secondary market. Look, we are talking about posters & stickers here. If there is a way for the band to make more money and provide a way to have merchandise more easily attainable for fans that attend shows, everyone wins, right? For the serious collector, there will always be a way and a means to get what they want...
    They need to stop selling Merch outside of the venue. That would be a great start.
  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    veddertown said:

    I don't know how the band are expected to second guess the poster sales when very few actually hit this level of demand and the majority sit in the store until they are either vastly reduced in price or put in mystery boxes/tubes. We have created this merch monster ourselves so I find the bitching hilariously ironic. The day PJ start catering to everyone's needs successfully and the complaint threads miraculously disappears I'll eat Big Bank Hank's pink corduroys.

    =D> Well spoken Gary!!! =D>
    The Moline poster is just average for me...
    Milwaukee & Lincoln were both better to my eyes!!
    In my opinion, we didn't get ANYTHING on this tour,
    that was even close to last year's Pittsburgh - Munk One or Portland - Emek!!
    I'm still more surprised that the St. Louis one DID sell out!!
    I think you're safe & won't be eating those pants anytime soon =))
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Given2Fly-Fish said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    I think we need to step back and see that for each of the last several tours (even maybe to 2006) there is at most 1 or 2 posters that sell out quick on the webpage.

    OK, but what about waiting hours in line only to get shut out at the venue? Then you have to hope that there will be extra's sold online at a later date? I just hate to see people shut out that attend a show, and then have to shell out serious $$ on the secondary market. Look, we are talking about posters & stickers here. If there is a way for the band to make more money and provide a way to have merchandise more easily attainable for fans that attend shows, everyone wins, right? For the serious collector, there will always be a way and a means to get what they want...
    They need to stop selling Merch outside of the venue. That would be a great start.
    Agreed.
  • JV130312
    JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,519
    The print isn't even that good to be worth $300.00.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406

    They need to stop selling Merch outside of the venue. That would be a great start.




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  • FoxyRedLa
    FoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    iamloco724 said:

    What im not understanding is i got moline thought i got st paul too but somehow st paul got cancelled because its sold out, just seems odd that st paul would sell out so quick

    St. Paul appears back up. Doesn't say sold out.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,441
    tempo_n_groove said:



    They need to stop selling Merch outside of the venue. That would be a great start.

    Yes, on board with this too.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    screw this, i'm going out to riot...
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  • PJ-Cubs
    PJ-Cubs Posts: 3,376
    veddertown said:

    I don't know how the band are expected to second guess the poster sales when very few actually hit this level of demand and the majority sit in the store until they are either vastly reduced in price or put in mystery boxes/tubes. We have created this merch monster ourselves so I find the bitching hilariously ironic. The day PJ start catering to everyone's needs successfully and the complaint threads miraculously disappears I'll eat Big Bank Hank's pink corduroys.

    If I remember correctly, back in 2009 when the SLC "red mosquito" poster was in high demand, the 10c actually had more printed.
    It killed the secondary market but everyone who wanted one got one.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJ-Cubs said:

    veddertown said:

    I don't know how the band are expected to second guess the poster sales when very few actually hit this level of demand and the majority sit in the store until they are either vastly reduced in price or put in mystery boxes/tubes. We have created this merch monster ourselves so I find the bitching hilariously ironic. The day PJ start catering to everyone's needs successfully and the complaint threads miraculously disappears I'll eat Big Bank Hank's pink corduroys.

    If I remember correctly, back in 2009 when the SLC "red mosquito" poster was in high demand, the 10c actually had more printed.
    It killed the secondary market but everyone who wanted one got one.
    The original run didn't realize it's full potential because of the black paper so a little while latter Brad Klausen got permission to do a small run of approx 200 (I forget) on white paper as sort of a second run of A/P's as he intended the print to look...

    Huge difference by the way, the white paper SLC is pretty sick

    Anyway, that is what I remember, could be wrong

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