Some facts for the Obama haters

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backseatLover12
backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
edited November 2014 in A Moving Train
…cause they're gonna hate anyway.

Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing

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Bob Deitrick: ”President Reagan has long been considered the best modern economic President. So we compared his performance dealing with the oil-induced recession of the 1980s with that of President Obama and his performance during this ‘Great Recession.’

“As this unemployment chart shows, President Obama’s job creation kept unemployment from peaking at as high a level as President Reagan, and promoted people into the workforce faster than President Reagan.

“President Obama has achieved a 6.1% unemployment rate in his sixth year, fully one year faster than President Reagan did. At this point in his presidency, President Reagan was still struggling with 7.1% unemployment, and he did not reach into the mid-low 6% range for another full year. So, despite today’s number, the Obama administration has still done considerably better at job creating and reducing unemployment than did the Reagan administration.

“We forecast unemployment will fall to around 5.4% by summer, 2015. A rate President Reagan was unable to achieve during his two terms.”
More at http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I love it! But just like the Romney campaign, they are not going to bullied around by facts, they have no love for the truth.
    I wish it was like Facebook where you can tag people...godfather, muskydan, unsung what say you?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/01/31/obamas-love-affair-with-executive-orders-or-not-in-1-chart/

    Another inconvenient truth.
    I predict the silence will be broken by crickets alone.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    rgambs said:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/01/31/obamas-love-affair-with-executive-orders-or-not-in-1-chart/

    Another inconvenient truth.
    I predict the silence will be broken by crickets alone.

    Chirp chirp chirp chirp, hahaha
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    rgambs said:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/01/31/obamas-love-affair-with-executive-orders-or-not-in-1-chart/

    Another inconvenient truth.
    I predict the silence will be broken by crickets alone.

    That's right! Saw this the other day. Thanks for posting.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    I'm sure some one will post a different graft showing how terrible he has been for the nation after all he is trying to dissarm all citizens =))
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    A inquiring mind might ask what was the quality of the jobs filled?Were they low wage,largely entry level jobs? Its my understanding that they were.Also many just dropped off unemployment so the numbers get skewed.
    Now as a buisness owner I have done just fine under this admin although I pay way more to the govt as does my employees.Was it Obama that led to me doing fine or was it our hard work and commitment to succeed in spite of the govt stepping on our toes?
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.

    You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    A inquiring mind might ask what was the quality of the jobs filled?Were they low wage,largely entry level jobs? Its my understanding that they were.Also many just dropped off unemployment so the numbers get skewed.
    Now as a buisness owner I have done just fine under this admin although I pay way more to the govt as does my employees.Was it Obama that led to me doing fine or was it our hard work and commitment to succeed in spite of the govt stepping on our toes?

    Valid points! Though I am sure you recognize that they apply to Reagan' Bush,Clinton and Bush as well.
    The post doesn't make any claims about his competency though, it only refutes the false notions that are espoused by the right wing establishment. I don't think anyone who knows much about the economy will give Obama much credit, but many of those same people herald Reagan as some sort of economic hero, which is just about as false as "emperor" Obama and his "terrible" economic record.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    Like many others, I fully admit Obama hasn't fulfilled all the hopes I'd expected of his presidency but when I look at the previous eight years before Obama was elected I feel pretty damn good about the last six years.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.

    You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
    I don't blame Obama alone. GW didn't help matter and Clinton started the mess.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,031
    brianlux said:

    Like many others, I fully admit Obama hasn't fulfilled all the hopes I'd expected of his presidency but when I look at the previous eight years before Obama was elected I feel pretty damn good about the last six years.

    ^^^ this
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.

    You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
    I don't blame Obama alone. GW didn't help matter and Clinton started the mess.
    That is a proper grasp :-D :-D
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    The Obama haters are also pretty quiet when it comes to the latest Benghazi report, too. Well...aside from Lindsay Graham.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    JimmyV said:

    The Obama haters are also pretty quiet when it comes to the latest Benghazi report, too. Well...aside from Lindsay Graham.

    I hate that guy. I'm embarrassed to live in the state he supposedly represents.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Last-12-Exit said:

    JimmyV said:

    The Obama haters are also pretty quiet when it comes to the latest Benghazi report, too. Well...aside from Lindsay Graham.

    I hate that guy. I'm embarrassed to live in the state he supposedly represents.
    You have Hootie though!
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rr165892 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    JimmyV said:

    The Obama haters are also pretty quiet when it comes to the latest Benghazi report, too. Well...aside from Lindsay Graham.

    I hate that guy. I'm embarrassed to live in the state he supposedly represents.
    You have Hootie though!
    Lol. He hates to be called hootie. Darius changed to country music though, which I can't llisten to for 10 seconds!
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Wagon wheel baby!
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Last-12-Exit said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.

    You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
    I don't blame Obama alone. GW didn't help matter and Clinton started the mess.
    I agree and there all just as bad as each other...some more so then others.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    rr165892 said:

    Wagon wheel baby!

    I love it when some of these threads get twisted or unravel. It's like a knitters nightmare sometimes... but I like it! :-D

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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