Why the Lightning Bolt tour 13'-14' was one of the all time best
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No, and i don't want children.front spacer said:
I don't appreciate people like you making blanket statements about not bringing your family to a show. It makes you seem very selfish and entitled.PJ_Soul said:
No, you get over yourself!!!!front spacer said:
Get over yourself!PJ_Soul said:All very nice, except the family vibe. I'm not into that. I like for a rock concert to be grown-up time - teens and older. Little kids at a rock concert just doesn't sit well with me (not that I'm not gracious when it happens.... but inside I'm annoyed).
I went to Moline and Milwaukee with my wife, 13 year-old daughter, and 9 year-old son. We rocked out and were more into the show than either the people who sat down with their arms crossed or the people that just wanted to go out and get wasted on $10 beers and embarrass themselves!\:D/
No idea what the losers you happened to be next to at a show has to do with anything.
Do you have children?
But i don't understand why you are offended. I don't even know what you mean by blanket statement. I didn't pass judgement. I just said that I don't like kids at a rock concert. ALL I did was state my personal opinion. I didn't declare that anyone can't bring kids to the shows, and i sure don't expect anyone not to just because I'd prefer if they didn't. I didn't bash anyone, especially not you. You certainly can't say the same.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
It was a great tour and I'm glad I was able to enjoy the two best shows!! No Code, IL and Yieldwaukee, WI!!Indy - 08.17.98
Indy - 08.18.00
Indy - 06.22.03
Indy - 05.07.10
EV StL - 07.01.11
Alpine Valley - 09.03.11, 09.04.11 (PJ20)
ATL - 09.22.12 (Music Midtown Festival)
EV Jax - 11.24.12
Chicago - 07.19.13
Pittsburgh - 10.11.13
Moline - 10.17.14 (The No Code Show)
Milwaukee - 10.20.14 (The Yield Show)
FtL - 04.08.16
Miami - 04.09.16
Tampa - 04.11.16
Lexington - 04.26.16
Chicago - 08.20.16, 08.22.16
Chicago - 08.18.18, 08.20.18
Boston - 09.02.18, 09.04.180 -
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Indy - 08.17.98
Indy - 08.18.00
Indy - 06.22.03
Indy - 05.07.10
EV StL - 07.01.11
Alpine Valley - 09.03.11, 09.04.11 (PJ20)
ATL - 09.22.12 (Music Midtown Festival)
EV Jax - 11.24.12
Chicago - 07.19.13
Pittsburgh - 10.11.13
Moline - 10.17.14 (The No Code Show)
Milwaukee - 10.20.14 (The Yield Show)
FtL - 04.08.16
Miami - 04.09.16
Tampa - 04.11.16
Lexington - 04.26.16
Chicago - 08.20.16, 08.22.16
Chicago - 08.18.18, 08.20.18
Boston - 09.02.18, 09.04.180 -
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
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I'll quit being an ass!0 -
it's just an opinion yeeesh!front spacer said:
I don't appreciate people like you making blanket statements about not bringing your family to a show. It makes you seem very selfish and entitled.PJ_Soul said:
No, you get over yourself!!!!front spacer said:
Get over yourself!PJ_Soul said:All very nice, except the family vibe. I'm not into that. I like for a rock concert to be grown-up time - teens and older. Little kids at a rock concert just doesn't sit well with me (not that I'm not gracious when it happens.... but inside I'm annoyed).
I went to Moline and Milwaukee with my wife, 13 year-old daughter, and 9 year-old son. We rocked out and were more into the show than either the people who sat down with their arms crossed or the people that just wanted to go out and get wasted on $10 beers and embarrass themselves!\:D/
No idea what the losers you happened to be next to at a show has to do with anything.
Do you have children?
Have you considered it might be selfish and entitled to think that the presence of "your" children doesn't have any effect on the concert experience of the adults nearby?? Not necessarily saying so myself, but it is certainly a valid perspective.
Anyhow...some of the best times of my life! Euro shows are amazing, the cities blow the US cities right off the map, and the shows do too! Hope I get the chance to do it again!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
We're a big family in some fashionwhispering hands said:You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
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I'll quit being an ass!2000 - Chicago, IL
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 22024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA22012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WIRIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris CornellRIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)0 -
Thank you for NOT saying "jamily"iwasatpj20 said:
We're a big family in some fashionwhispering hands said:You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
Ok
I'll quit being an ass!)
'96: Seattle: Key Arena
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis0 -
Revoke my membership please. X_Xderbydave said:
Thank you for NOT saying "jamily"iwasatpj20 said:
We're a big family in some fashionwhispering hands said:You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
Ok
I'll quit being an ass!)
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Amen, on both paragraphs.rgambs said:
it's just an opinion yeeesh!front spacer said:
I don't appreciate people like you making blanket statements about not bringing your family to a show. It makes you seem very selfish and entitled.PJ_Soul said:
No, you get over yourself!!!!front spacer said:
Get over yourself!PJ_Soul said:All very nice, except the family vibe. I'm not into that. I like for a rock concert to be grown-up time - teens and older. Little kids at a rock concert just doesn't sit well with me (not that I'm not gracious when it happens.... but inside I'm annoyed).
I went to Moline and Milwaukee with my wife, 13 year-old daughter, and 9 year-old son. We rocked out and were more into the show than either the people who sat down with their arms crossed or the people that just wanted to go out and get wasted on $10 beers and embarrass themselves!\:D/
No idea what the losers you happened to be next to at a show has to do with anything.
Do you have children?
Have you considered it might be selfish and entitled to think that the presence of "your" children doesn't have any effect on the concert experience of the adults nearby?? Not necessarily saying so myself, but it is certainly a valid perspective.
Anyhow...some of the best times of my life! Euro shows are amazing, the cities blow the US cities right off the map, and the shows do too! Hope I get the chance to do it again!0 -
The two shows I've been lucky enough to attend were in 1998 and 2013. I loved the 98 show because it was my first PJ show and Yield is my favorite CD. But I was young, high, and in the back. I appreciated it but I didn't.
The 2013 show was amazing. I was 35, sober, and in the pit. The band sounded great (not that they didn't in 98). But I was able to appreciate more. I got to bring my wife, who isn't a die hard fan. Actually, she really isn't a fan at all. She only really like 4 or 5 songs. She was able to see how happy I was seeing the band I love as well as hear the music that has been in my life for 20+ years. So to me, the 2013 tour is better.
But what do I know? I've only seen the 2 shows.0 -
2 shows and a semi-ban, you're on fireLast-12-Exit said:The two shows I've been lucky enough to attend were in 1998 and 2013. I loved the 98 show because it was my first PJ show and Yield is my favorite CD. But I was young, high, and in the back. I appreciated it but I didn't.
The 2013 show was amazing. I was 35, sober, and in the pit. The band sounded great (not that they didn't in 98). But I was able to appreciate more. I got to bring my wife, who isn't a die hard fan. Actually, she really isn't a fan at all. She only really like 4 or 5 songs. She was able to see how happy I was seeing the band I love as well as hear the music that has been in my life for 20+ years. So to me, the 2013 tour is better.
But what do I know? I've only seen the 2 shows.)
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Don't buy into the more-shows-bigger-fan myth. No doubt me and you are totally envious of people who can follow the band on tour or chunks of tours. That'd be my idea of a perfect vacation. Unfortunately, life gets in the way (it's what happens while you're making your tour plans!!)Last-12-Exit said:But what do I know? I've only seen the 2 shows.
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^discogs entry link^
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No I don't. Other than the 100's off boots I've listened to, I have nothing to compare those two shows to.
Don't buy into the more-shows-bigger-fan myth. No doubt me and you are totally envious of people who can follow the band on tour or chunks of tours. That'd be my idea of a perfect vacation. Unfortunately, life gets in the way (it's what happens while you're making your tour plans!!)Last-12-Exit said:But what do I know? I've only seen the 2 shows.
And badbrains, you sometimes leave me speechless. I think my wife would like to have a word with you!0 -
Yes, the fashion where tempers flare, insults are traded and people go off in their corners to drink more than they should.iwasatpj20 said:
We're a big family in some fashionwhispering hands said:You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
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I'll quit being an ass!my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
To think, it only takes two or three drinks for me to get a buzz going, then I'm done for the night. I take no comment from any poster personally/seriously ever.oftenreading said:
Yes, the fashion where tempers flare, insults are traded and people go off in their corners to drink more than they should.iwasatpj20 said:
We're a big family in some fashionwhispering hands said:You gotta love this place.. No seriously, love it damn it!! :-D
Ok
I'll quit being an ass!2000 - Chicago, IL
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 22024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA22012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WIRIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris CornellRIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)0 -
I seem to have that effect on people.Last-12-Exit said:
No I don't. Other than the 100's off boots I've listened to, I have nothing to compare those two shows to.
Don't buy into the more-shows-bigger-fan myth. No doubt me and you are totally envious of people who can follow the band on tour or chunks of tours. That'd be my idea of a perfect vacation. Unfortunately, life gets in the way (it's what happens while you're making your tour plans!!)Last-12-Exit said:But what do I know? I've only seen the 2 shows.
And badbrains, you sometimes leave me speechless. I think my wife would like to have a word with you!)
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I know this won't be the popular opinion, but I thought '98 was meh (maybe, I'm overstating that for effect). Now, I only went to 1 show, so I can't comment on the tour, but it left me disappointed (relatively speaking - it was a great show, but I can think of 20+ other shows I went to in that era that blew it away). They are a 10x's better band with a 20x's better show now. I realize we were all on many more drugs and had a lot less responsibility in our lives back then. So, that definitely contributes to how you view stuff. But, they have definitely learned and grown in so many ways, that objectively, there's no comparison.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0
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Yeah, I don't see how your opinion would be offensive to someone. I've brought my kids to shows (not as toddlers). I can understand both sides. My 15 yo has become my constant concert buddy (he'll be going to his 3rd Billy Joel MSG show on Tuesday, went to EC Crossroads, stood rail at Gary Clark, Jr, and upper deck at PJ Brooklyn) while my 13 yo tried it and prefers sporting events (we will try again). Whatever. Expose them to many things and they'll, find their way. Meanwhile, my 10 yo can't wait to go see The Who (again) next year. I dont care if you light up in front of them (my 15 yo went to the last Allman Brothers Beacon Saturday night and had 2 guys light up so blatantly an usher actually spoke to them - which if you know The Brothers at the Beacon that's pretty hard to do - and we laugh about it).PJ_Soul said:
No, and i don't want children.front spacer said:
I don't appreciate people like you making blanket statements about not bringing your family to a show. It makes you seem very selfish and entitled.PJ_Soul said:
No, you get over yourself!!!!front spacer said:
Get over yourself!PJ_Soul said:All very nice, except the family vibe. I'm not into that. I like for a rock concert to be grown-up time - teens and older. Little kids at a rock concert just doesn't sit well with me (not that I'm not gracious when it happens.... but inside I'm annoyed).
I went to Moline and Milwaukee with my wife, 13 year-old daughter, and 9 year-old son. We rocked out and were more into the show than either the people who sat down with their arms crossed or the people that just wanted to go out and get wasted on $10 beers and embarrass themselves!\:D/
No idea what the losers you happened to be next to at a show has to do with anything.
Do you have children?
But i don't understand why you are offended. I don't even know what you mean by blanket statement. I didn't pass judgement. I just said that I don't like kids at a rock concert. ALL I did was state my personal opinion. I didn't declare that anyone can't bring kids to the shows, and i sure don't expect anyone not to just because I'd prefer if they didn't. I didn't bash anyone, especially not you. You certainly can't say the same.
I've also been on both sides of the getting totally wasted side of the discussion. I don't let what you do effect me, and I don't expect you to do any different. If youre idea of fun is black out drunk, why do I or my son care? Funny thing is its a learning experience. As long as you don't punch or puke, I couldn't care less.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0
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