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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    PJ_Soul said:

    I just have to say it: haven't most larger concert venues that are older than 50 years old or so hosted all those bands? It's not actually a point of interest to people that The Who and Hendrix and The Beatles played there. They played all over the place. All over the country and all over the world. They all played where I live too. It doesn't make the old venue with no bathrooms that happens to be a stone's throw away from your house any more appealing to people. IMHO.

    Also, doesn't PJ charge $500K to play a private show, which this will be? Not sure how your goal of $500K+ is going to be enough. I guess just hoping that PJ will give you a good deal?

    Excellent point on the venue
    And ? What's your point ? Appears this venue would work. If pj comes who cares.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    callen said:

    Hahahaha!! I love you Shep!! ;-) no pussy footing around THAT subject!

    Several people have made some great points regarding this band doing things.
    POINT ONE: while everyone in the band has major weight in on things, Ed says yes or no. And he is very stubborn, I've trained MULES that gave easier in the end, than what it must be like to get that man to sway on a decided topic!
    POINT TWO: yeah they do two week runs at a stretch these days, cause they are not assholes to their families.. And quite frankly, they have earned that right. Get over it, we had our chance to go see 100 shows a year in 2000-2006, or whatever, I missed all that due to obligation to MY family( stupid mom! Jk mom!).
    POINT THREE: these guys do shit tons for us as fans, that no where NEAR half the other bands on this planet will do for THEIR fans; whom are probably just as greedy and asinine as we are as a whole! But unlike PJ, they don't give a fuck! ( note not every PJ is a greedy fuck.. Some if us get that the band owes us nothing, and are happy for what we do get.. But that seems to be diminishing).
    POINT FOUR: as I stated before, I don't think this guy is doing any harm in trying to do this; however many people are correct in pointing out that once accomplished idiots from around the globe will be launching campaigns.. And that will get ultra stupid, where as this whole debacle is only ridiculous. This guy is not an asshole, just an asshat for thinking this can be done without planning, preparation, proper recourse, or even a fucking CLUE, as to what he's doing. I laugh everytime I think of this thing, cause there's no way this is happening by Oct. of next year!! And definitely not for the mere 500,000 raised if raised at all. I DO commend your effort Dan.. You're fighting a stupid battle really hard.. Imagine what you could do with something that was possible! You're like a human Pit Bull! And, for the most part, that's good.. But most Pit Bulls that latch onto the wrong thing end up getting killed.. And figuratively, that's where I see this going. Sorry but it's the honest to God's truth. You have no fuckjng clue what you're doing.. And you prove that with every single statement. If you had some real and actual help, from people that work in these fields, you might pull this off.. Maybe hire a real promoter?? A real fielding agent?? Cause your foot work here is very sloppy, like sucker mud, or New Mexican Red Mud.. All over the place and dangerous. Sorry but that is the reality. But your tenacity is commendable.

    Agree with most of this, though when it comes to trying to get answers to questions his tenacity (i.e. ability to ignore said questions) is as irritating as it is impressive
    MYbe because no matter what he would say there would be a computer expert with nothing better to do than criticize more. 10 club has to ignore some of the inquiries cause it gets out of hand.

    Is this what it's like to be on Facebook. Arghhhh
    What has the Ten Club got to do with this? Are you comparing the two???
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    Hahahaha!! I love you Shep!! ;-) no pussy footing around THAT subject!

    Several people have made some great points regarding this band doing things.
    POINT ONE: while everyone in the band has major weight in on things, Ed says yes or no. And he is very stubborn, I've trained MULES that gave easier in the end, than what it must be like to get that man to sway on a decided topic!
    POINT TWO: yeah they do two week runs at a stretch these days, cause they are not assholes to their families.. And quite frankly, they have earned that right. Get over it, we had our chance to go see 100 shows a year in 2000-2006, or whatever, I missed all that due to obligation to MY family( stupid mom! Jk mom!).
    POINT THREE: these guys do shit tons for us as fans, that no where NEAR half the other bands on this planet will do for THEIR fans; whom are probably just as greedy and asinine as we are as a whole! But unlike PJ, they don't give a fuck! ( note not every PJ is a greedy fuck.. Some if us get that the band owes us nothing, and are happy for what we do get.. But that seems to be diminishing).
    POINT FOUR: as I stated before, I don't think this guy is doing any harm in trying to do this; however many people are correct in pointing out that once accomplished idiots from around the globe will be launching campaigns.. And that will get ultra stupid, where as this whole debacle is only ridiculous. This guy is not an asshole, just an asshat for thinking this can be done without planning, preparation, proper recourse, or even a fucking CLUE, as to what he's doing. I laugh everytime I think of this thing, cause there's no way this is happening by Oct. of next year!! And definitely not for the mere 500,000 raised if raised at all. I DO commend your effort Dan.. You're fighting a stupid battle really hard.. Imagine what you could do with something that was possible! You're like a human Pit Bull! And, for the most part, that's good.. But most Pit Bulls that latch onto the wrong thing end up getting killed.. And figuratively, that's where I see this going. Sorry but it's the honest to God's truth. You have no fuckjng clue what you're doing.. And you prove that with every single statement. If you had some real and actual help, from people that work in these fields, you might pull this off.. Maybe hire a real promoter?? A real fielding agent?? Cause your foot work here is very sloppy, like sucker mud, or New Mexican Red Mud.. All over the place and dangerous. Sorry but that is the reality. But your tenacity is commendable.

    Agree with most of this, though when it comes to trying to get answers to questions his tenacity (i.e. ability to ignore said questions) is as irritating as it is impressive
    MYbe because no matter what he would say there would be a computer expert with nothing better to do than criticize more. 10 club has to ignore some of the inquiries cause it gets out of hand.

    Is this what it's like to be on Facebook. Arghhhh
    What has the Ten Club got to do with this? Are you comparing the two???
    No, comparing reactions of ten members to anything on this board. Negativity. Stickers again, not enough copies , not enough tour dates, etc etc. Dude that's attempting this has fortitude to want to open himself up like this.

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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    callen said:

    callen said:

    Hahahaha!! I love you Shep!! ;-) no pussy footing around THAT subject!

    Several people have made some great points regarding this band doing things.
    POINT ONE: while everyone in the band has major weight in on things, Ed says yes or no. And he is very stubborn, I've trained MULES that gave easier in the end, than what it must be like to get that man to sway on a decided topic!
    POINT TWO: yeah they do two week runs at a stretch these days, cause they are not assholes to their families.. And quite frankly, they have earned that right. Get over it, we had our chance to go see 100 shows a year in 2000-2006, or whatever, I missed all that due to obligation to MY family( stupid mom! Jk mom!).
    POINT THREE: these guys do shit tons for us as fans, that no where NEAR half the other bands on this planet will do for THEIR fans; whom are probably just as greedy and asinine as we are as a whole! But unlike PJ, they don't give a fuck! ( note not every PJ is a greedy fuck.. Some if us get that the band owes us nothing, and are happy for what we do get.. But that seems to be diminishing).
    POINT FOUR: as I stated before, I don't think this guy is doing any harm in trying to do this; however many people are correct in pointing out that once accomplished idiots from around the globe will be launching campaigns.. And that will get ultra stupid, where as this whole debacle is only ridiculous. This guy is not an asshole, just an asshat for thinking this can be done without planning, preparation, proper recourse, or even a fucking CLUE, as to what he's doing. I laugh everytime I think of this thing, cause there's no way this is happening by Oct. of next year!! And definitely not for the mere 500,000 raised if raised at all. I DO commend your effort Dan.. You're fighting a stupid battle really hard.. Imagine what you could do with something that was possible! You're like a human Pit Bull! And, for the most part, that's good.. But most Pit Bulls that latch onto the wrong thing end up getting killed.. And figuratively, that's where I see this going. Sorry but it's the honest to God's truth. You have no fuckjng clue what you're doing.. And you prove that with every single statement. If you had some real and actual help, from people that work in these fields, you might pull this off.. Maybe hire a real promoter?? A real fielding agent?? Cause your foot work here is very sloppy, like sucker mud, or New Mexican Red Mud.. All over the place and dangerous. Sorry but that is the reality. But your tenacity is commendable.

    Agree with most of this, though when it comes to trying to get answers to questions his tenacity (i.e. ability to ignore said questions) is as irritating as it is impressive
    MYbe because no matter what he would say there would be a computer expert with nothing better to do than criticize more. 10 club has to ignore some of the inquiries cause it gets out of hand.

    Is this what it's like to be on Facebook. Arghhhh
    What has the Ten Club got to do with this? Are you comparing the two???
    No, comparing reactions of ten members to anything on this board. Negativity. Stickers again, not enough copies , not enough tour dates, etc etc. Dude that's attempting this has fortitude to want to open himself up like this.

    I see. So we're back to the party line that says any questions relating to this campaign are to be brushed aside as mere 'negativity', not worthy of being addressed
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited November 2014

    callen said:

    callen said:

    Hahahaha!! I love you Shep!! ;-) no pussy footing around THAT subject!

    Several people have made some great points regarding this band doing things.
    POINT ONE: while everyone in the band has major weight in on things, Ed says yes or no. And he is very stubborn, I've trained MULES that gave easier in the end, than what it must be like to get that man to sway on a decided topic!
    POINT TWO: yeah they do two week runs at a stretch these days, cause they are not assholes to their families.. And quite frankly, they have earned that right. Get over it, we had our chance to go see 100 shows a year in 2000-2006, or whatever, I missed all that due to obligation to MY family( stupid mom! Jk mom!).
    POINT THREE: these guys do shit tons for us as fans, that no where NEAR half the other bands on this planet will do for THEIR fans; whom are probably just as greedy and asinine as we are as a whole! But unlike PJ, they don't give a fuck! ( note not every PJ is a greedy fuck.. Some if us get that the band owes us nothing, and are happy for what we do get.. But that seems to be diminishing).
    POINT FOUR: as I stated before, I don't think this guy is doing any harm in trying to do this; however many people are correct in pointing out that once accomplished idiots from around the globe will be launching campaigns.. And that will get ultra stupid, where as this whole debacle is only ridiculous. This guy is not an asshole, just an asshat for thinking this can be done without planning, preparation, proper recourse, or even a fucking CLUE, as to what he's doing. I laugh everytime I think of this thing, cause there's no way this is happening by Oct. of next year!! And definitely not for the mere 500,000 raised if raised at all. I DO commend your effort Dan.. You're fighting a stupid battle really hard.. Imagine what you could do with something that was possible! You're like a human Pit Bull! And, for the most part, that's good.. But most Pit Bulls that latch onto the wrong thing end up getting killed.. And figuratively, that's where I see this going. Sorry but it's the honest to God's truth. You have no fuckjng clue what you're doing.. And you prove that with every single statement. If you had some real and actual help, from people that work in these fields, you might pull this off.. Maybe hire a real promoter?? A real fielding agent?? Cause your foot work here is very sloppy, like sucker mud, or New Mexican Red Mud.. All over the place and dangerous. Sorry but that is the reality. But your tenacity is commendable.

    Agree with most of this, though when it comes to trying to get answers to questions his tenacity (i.e. ability to ignore said questions) is as irritating as it is impressive
    MYbe because no matter what he would say there would be a computer expert with nothing better to do than criticize more. 10 club has to ignore some of the inquiries cause it gets out of hand.

    Is this what it's like to be on Facebook. Arghhhh
    What has the Ten Club got to do with this? Are you comparing the two???
    No, comparing reactions of ten members to anything on this board. Negativity. Stickers again, not enough copies , not enough tour dates, etc etc. Dude that's attempting this has fortitude to want to open himself up like this.

    I see. So we're back to the party line that says any questions relating to this campaign are to be brushed aside as mere 'negativity', not worthy of being addressed
    Hardly.

    So your in Ireland, if all your concerns were answered to your satisfaction would donate, buy airline tickets hotel and attend?
    Post edited by callen on
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited November 2014
    People have a right to their negativity (aka legitimate concerns and questions) here. They are considering giving these people their money and credit card info, and will potentially be subjected to a total clusterfuck if not actual danger if the show happens and these people aren't doing things the right way... which they probably aren't and won't be, since the guy openly admitted that he was learning how to put on a concert as he goes and is expecting to learn how to do it "organically". image
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • joberschlake
    joberschlake Columbus, OH Posts: 1,179
    Don't you all have better things to do with your time than rip Dan for this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of you know him personally. He's a great guy. He's not trying to rip anyone off. Quite frankly, he has bigger balls than any of you posting this. I know I wouldn't want to open myself up to the kind of reaction that he's gotten. Cheers to him for wading thru this shit storm and keeping to his mission.

    It's cool that you all have voiced your opinions or dissatisfaction with what he's trying to do. It's cool that you all speak for the band or think you know what they want. Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.

    Instead of ripping a really cool guy, either jump on board and support him, or leave him alone. There's enough negativity floating around that no one needs this. If you don't support him, you've voiced it already, and drop it. Move on.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596

    Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.
    .

    While it is true that Pearl Jam has not, to our knowledge, said no to this, at least two previous incarnations of this thread have in fact been shutdown.

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  • Brane_of_JFK
    Brane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901

    Don't you all have better things to do with your time than rip Dan for this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of you know him personally. He's a great guy. He's not trying to rip anyone off. Quite frankly, he has bigger balls than any of you posting this. I know I wouldn't want to open myself up to the kind of reaction that he's gotten. Cheers to him for wading thru this shit storm and keeping to his mission.

    It's cool that you all have voiced your opinions or dissatisfaction with what he's trying to do. It's cool that you all speak for the band or think you know what they want. Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.

    Instead of ripping a really cool guy, either jump on board and support him, or leave him alone. There's enough negativity floating around that no one needs this. If you don't support him, you've voiced it already, and drop it. Move on.

    :))
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited November 2014
    JimmyV said:



    Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.
    .

    While it is true that Pearl Jam has not, to our knowledge, said no to this, at least two previous incarnations of this thread have in fact been shutdown.

    Jimmy but not due to thread topic.

    Are people taking a risk, absolutely.

    What this is all about having something really cool happening.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    callen said:

    JimmyV said:



    Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.
    .

    While it is true that Pearl Jam has not, to our knowledge, said no to this, at least two previous incarnations of this thread have in fact been shutdown.

    Jimmy but not due to thread topic.
    Do we know that for sure? There was bickering certainly but was it that much worse than any other thread? (It may have been. I dropped in and out so I may have missed some nastiness.)

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  • Brane_of_JFK
    Brane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901

    Don't you all have better things to do with your time than rip Dan for this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of you know him personally. He's a great guy. He's not trying to rip anyone off. Quite frankly, he has bigger balls than any of you posting this. I know I wouldn't want to open myself up to the kind of reaction that he's gotten. Cheers to him for wading thru this shit storm and keeping to his mission.

    It's cool that you all have voiced your opinions or dissatisfaction with what he's trying to do. It's cool that you all speak for the band or think you know what they want. Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.

    Instead of ripping a really cool guy, either jump on board and support him, or leave him alone. There's enough negativity floating around that no one needs this. If you don't support him, you've voiced it already, and drop it. Move on.

    Frankly, I don't think the majority of people "ripping on him" are doing so because of the actual idea to crowdfund a PJ show. They're ripping on him because of SEVERAL shady things he's done thus far including not seemingly having any kind of plan outside raising the funds, changing the goal several times, CC mishap and basically ripping Wishlist himself. You can't just jump into this and make it up as you go along...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited November 2014
    But I like to talk about shit. Other people do too. Let us have our conversation.

    I'm sure Dan is a very nice guy. That actually has nothing to do with it.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682

    Don't you all have better things to do with your time than rip Dan for this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of you know him personally. He's a great guy. He's not trying to rip anyone off. Quite frankly, he has bigger balls than any of you posting this. I know I wouldn't want to open myself up to the kind of reaction that he's gotten. Cheers to him for wading thru this shit storm and keeping to his mission.

    It's cool that you all have voiced your opinions or dissatisfaction with what he's trying to do. It's cool that you all speak for the band or think you know what they want. Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.

    Instead of ripping a really cool guy, either jump on board and support him, or leave him alone. There's enough negativity floating around that no one needs this. If you don't support him, you've voiced it already, and drop it. Move on.

    Frankly, I don't think the majority of people "ripping on him" are doing so because of the actual idea to crowdfund a PJ show. They're ripping on him because of SEVERAL shady things he's done thus far including not seemingly having any kind of plan outside raising the funds, changing the goal several times, CC mishap and basically ripping Wishlist himself. You can't just jump into this and make it up as you go along...
    Exactly
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    JimmyV said:



    Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.
    .

    While it is true that Pearl Jam has not, to our knowledge, said no to this, at least two previous incarnations of this thread have in fact been shutdown.

    Jimmy but not due to thread topic.
    Do we know that for sure? There was bickering certainly but was it that much worse than any other thread? (It may have been. I dropped in and out so I may have missed some nastiness.)

    Hey don't know for sure but this threads been allowed to continue and no reference when shut down.

    Just my thoughts but band may be tickled at this effort.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    I guess it was a good lesson to learn that any one of us can be quoted in the newspaper at anytime! :-))
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    callen said:

    callen said:

    callen said:

    Hahahaha!! I love you Shep!! ;-) no pussy footing around THAT subject!

    Several people have made some great points regarding this band doing things.
    POINT ONE: while everyone in the band has major weight in on things, Ed says yes or no. And he is very stubborn, I've trained MULES that gave easier in the end, than what it must be like to get that man to sway on a decided topic!
    POINT TWO: yeah they do two week runs at a stretch these days, cause they are not assholes to their families.. And quite frankly, they have earned that right. Get over it, we had our chance to go see 100 shows a year in 2000-2006, or whatever, I missed all that due to obligation to MY family( stupid mom! Jk mom!).
    POINT THREE: these guys do shit tons for us as fans, that no where NEAR half the other bands on this planet will do for THEIR fans; whom are probably just as greedy and asinine as we are as a whole! But unlike PJ, they don't give a fuck! ( note not every PJ is a greedy fuck.. Some if us get that the band owes us nothing, and are happy for what we do get.. But that seems to be diminishing).
    POINT FOUR: as I stated before, I don't think this guy is doing any harm in trying to do this; however many people are correct in pointing out that once accomplished idiots from around the globe will be launching campaigns.. And that will get ultra stupid, where as this whole debacle is only ridiculous. This guy is not an asshole, just an asshat for thinking this can be done without planning, preparation, proper recourse, or even a fucking CLUE, as to what he's doing. I laugh everytime I think of this thing, cause there's no way this is happening by Oct. of next year!! And definitely not for the mere 500,000 raised if raised at all. I DO commend your effort Dan.. You're fighting a stupid battle really hard.. Imagine what you could do with something that was possible! You're like a human Pit Bull! And, for the most part, that's good.. But most Pit Bulls that latch onto the wrong thing end up getting killed.. And figuratively, that's where I see this going. Sorry but it's the honest to God's truth. You have no fuckjng clue what you're doing.. And you prove that with every single statement. If you had some real and actual help, from people that work in these fields, you might pull this off.. Maybe hire a real promoter?? A real fielding agent?? Cause your foot work here is very sloppy, like sucker mud, or New Mexican Red Mud.. All over the place and dangerous. Sorry but that is the reality. But your tenacity is commendable.

    Agree with most of this, though when it comes to trying to get answers to questions his tenacity (i.e. ability to ignore said questions) is as irritating as it is impressive
    MYbe because no matter what he would say there would be a computer expert with nothing better to do than criticize more. 10 club has to ignore some of the inquiries cause it gets out of hand.

    Is this what it's like to be on Facebook. Arghhhh
    What has the Ten Club got to do with this? Are you comparing the two???
    No, comparing reactions of ten members to anything on this board. Negativity. Stickers again, not enough copies , not enough tour dates, etc etc. Dude that's attempting this has fortitude to want to open himself up like this.

    I see. So we're back to the party line that says any questions relating to this campaign are to be brushed aside as mere 'negativity', not worthy of being addressed
    Hardly.

    So your in Ireland, if all your concerns were answered to your satisfaction would donate, buy airline tickets hotel and attend?
    And to answer this question (wouldn't want you thinking I was ignoring it!), it's possible. I was just over in America for the recent tour. Kinda hard to say when you have know idea when it will be, but I don't think my questions should be discounted just cos i'm Irish!
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    Don't you all have better things to do with your time than rip Dan for this? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that none of you know him personally. He's a great guy. He's not trying to rip anyone off. Quite frankly, he has bigger balls than any of you posting this. I know I wouldn't want to open myself up to the kind of reaction that he's gotten. Cheers to him for wading thru this shit storm and keeping to his mission.

    It's cool that you all have voiced your opinions or dissatisfaction with what he's trying to do. It's cool that you all speak for the band or think you know what they want. Bottom line, 10C has not shut his thread down, and Pearl Jam has not said NO to this yet.

    Instead of ripping a really cool guy, either jump on board and support him, or leave him alone. There's enough negativity floating around that no one needs this. If you don't support him, you've voiced it already, and drop it. Move on.

    Frankly, I don't think the majority of people "ripping on him" are doing so because of the actual idea to crowdfund a PJ show. They're ripping on him because of SEVERAL shady things he's done thus far including not seemingly having any kind of plan outside raising the funds, changing the goal several times, CC mishap and basically ripping Wishlist himself. You can't just jump into this and make it up as you go along...
    Agree not perfect but heck when PJ does things there are fk ups. It's a chance no doubt. Your taking a chance but the ripping just appears typical human negative behavior.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    JimmyV said:

    I guess it was a good lesson to learn that any one of us can be quoted in the newspaper at anytime! :-))

    Yeah, that's for sure. It never occurred to me that such a thing would ever happen, lol. Makes you think about what you say around here!
    :))
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  • Brane_of_JFK
    Brane_of_JFK Maryland Posts: 1,901
    JimmyV said:

    I guess it was a good lesson to learn that any one of us can be quoted in the newspaper at anytime! :-))

    Shouldn't you have to sign a waiver for that? ;)
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