Just saw that Neil Young cancelled his Tel Aviv date. That´s really sad. Apparently there was some sort of demonstration going on outside the Hyde Park gig and now this. I fully understand that Young pulls the plug. He´s an artist who shouldn´t be involved with this madness. But it´s the fans that will lose in the long run and that´s really sad. It´s also sad that Ed can´t voice an opinion without people reading too much into it. Now some even wish to crucify him. It´s not hard to understand why the conflict´s not going to end anytime soon but if I was on tour I probably wouldn´t want to play that area either
Neil had to cancel under the circumstances. Hamas rockets can reach Tel Aviv easily - and a concert venue would be a very realistic target for Hamas who do clearly aim for such types of civilian targets where the damage/loss of life is high. I don't think he wants to bring a few thousand fans together (or himself and tour crew) to be potential rocket targets. An American artist performing in Israel makes a very appealing target to a Hamas, I'm sure.
I found another video where Ed sings against War as a Daughter tag from Milton Keynes. This one is better quality. Oh wait, this is from 2002. My bad. Go to about the 4 minute mark.
Just saw that Neil Young cancelled his Tel Aviv date. That´s really sad. Apparently there was some sort of demonstration going on outside the Hyde Park gig and now this. I fully understand that Young pulls the plug. He´s an artist who shouldn´t be involved with this madness. But it´s the fans that will lose in the long run and that´s really sad. It´s also sad that Ed can´t voice an opinion without people reading too much into it. Now some even wish to crucify him. It´s not hard to understand why the conflict´s not going to end anytime soon but if I was on tour I probably wouldn´t want to play that area either
Neil had to cancel under the circumstances. Hamas rockets can reach Tel Aviv easily - and a concert venue would be a very realistic target for Hamas who do clearly aim for such types of civilian targets where the damage/loss of life is high. I don't think he wants to bring a few thousand fans together (or himself and tour crew) to be potential rocket targets. An American artist performing in Israel makes a very appealing target to a Hamas, I'm sure.
neil is canadian.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
I never get the idea that EV is really informed on political issues. Maybe he's intentionally uninformed or underinformed, but to view him in any higher light than a pot smoking hippie yelling, "peace dude" is to do an injustice.
And being more tipsier than normal. Not sure what he did on the Europe tour, but by the end of the US tour, he was drinking 2-3 magnums of wine a night. The guy is like 5'5"...that's 4-6 bottles of wine a night. I don't think anyone could do that without being hammered. He seemed to have a lot when he went on the rant, which has led to a lot of tension amongst a fan base that really looks out for each other. Seems like there's a divide now in the fan base, albeit not a huge divide, but a divide. I don't recall this ever happening before, the divide in the fan base.
2003 following denver show. fans were divided way more than they are now. ed dared criticize bush. most americans couldn't care less what is happening in gaza. if they cared, they would care enough to investigate more than what the american media is telling them.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
and the american media are talking complete lies and showing footage of parents running from their burning homes holding their kids and portraying it as 'poor Israel' when it fact these images are from Gaza...ABC was caught red handed doing this and had to publicly apologise.
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I never get the idea that EV is really informed on political issues. Maybe he's intentionally uninformed or underinformed, but to view him in any higher light than a pot smoking hippie yelling, "peace dude" is to do an injustice.
And being more tipsier than normal. Not sure what he did on the Europe tour, but by the end of the US tour, he was drinking 2-3 magnums of wine a night. The guy is like 5'5"...that's 4-6 bottles of wine a night. I don't think anyone could do that without being hammered. He seemed to have a lot when he went on the rant, which has led to a lot of tension amongst a fan base that really looks out for each other. Seems like there's a divide now in the fan base, albeit not a huge divide, but a divide. I don't recall this ever happening before, the divide in the fan base.
2003 following denver show. fans were divided way more than they are now. ed dared criticize bush. most americans couldn't care less what is happening in gaza. if they cared, they would care enough to investigate more than what the american media is telling them.
Fair point which came to a major head in Uniondale. Back then, it was a mistake in NY because it was still too soon after 9/11. I did not like Bush but he needed to let the NY'ers continue to heal. In a very roundabout way, at one of the Continental Arena shows in 2006, he sort of tried to make amends.
I never get the idea that EV is really informed on political issues. Maybe he's intentionally uninformed or underinformed, but to view him in any higher light than a pot smoking hippie yelling, "peace dude" is to do an injustice.
And a drunk too. Since the Fall tour, his drinking has been out of hand. Not sure what he did on the Europe tour, but by the end of the US tour, he was drinking 2-3 magnums of wine a night. The guy is like 5'5"...that's 4-6 bottles of wine a night. I don't think anyone could do that without being hammered. His drunk state led to the rant, which has led to a lot of tension amongst a fan base that really looks out for each other. Seems like there's a divide now in the fan base, albeit not a huge divide, but a divide. I don't recall this ever happening before.
Now this will get locked........finally
Why do you want this thread off the porch so badly? Stop reading it. I think it's great that the mods have left it, and let the 'bring pj to Israel' thread stay up for months. I didn't see you complaining in that one? Most people are woefully undereducated on this topic; the more exposure and discussion the better. Nobody reads the train, except for a few die hards...I wish more of the people taking the time to read this would chime in over there. Besides, this thread is 100% PJ-related.
and the american media are talking complete lies and showing footage of parents running from their burning homes holding their kids and portraying it as 'poor Israel' when it fact these images are from Gaza...ABC was caught red handed doing this and had to publicly apologise.
she knowingly passed that off as israelis running from palestinian missiles, when it was actually a palestinian family in gaza running from an israeli airstrike.
the american media is making the story and slanting the news, instead of doing it's job and reporting the facts.
ron burgundy did a better job reporting on pandas.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
I never get the idea that EV is really informed on political issues. Maybe he's intentionally uninformed or underinformed, but to view him in any higher light than a pot smoking hippie yelling, "peace dude" is to do an injustice.
And being more tipsier than normal. Not sure what he did on the Europe tour, but by the end of the US tour, he was drinking 2-3 magnums of wine a night. The guy is like 5'5"...that's 4-6 bottles of wine a night. I don't think anyone could do that without being hammered. He seemed to have a lot when he went on the rant, which has led to a lot of tension amongst a fan base that really looks out for each other. Seems like there's a divide now in the fan base, albeit not a huge divide, but a divide. I don't recall this ever happening before, the divide in the fan base.
2003 following denver show. fans were divided way more than they are now. ed dared criticize bush. most americans couldn't care less what is happening in gaza. if they cared, they would care enough to investigate more than what the american media is telling them.
Fair point which came to a major head in Uniondale. Back then, it was a mistake in NY because it was still too soon after 9/11. I did not like Bush but he needed to let the NY'ers continue to heal. In a very roundabout way, at one of the Continental Arena shows in 2006, he sort of tried to make amends.
yes it was bad back then. the moving train was god awful. i spoke out against the war in iraq until i was blue in the face. i got told to get the f out of america many times back then.
turns out, i was right.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
and the american media are talking complete lies and showing footage of parents running from their burning homes holding their kids and portraying it as 'poor Israel' when it fact these images are from Gaza...ABC was caught red handed doing this and had to publicly apologise.
she knowingly passed that off as israelis running from palestinian missiles, when it was actually a palestinian family in gaza running from an israeli airstrike.
the american media is making the story and slanting the news, instead of doing it's job and reporting the facts.
ron burgundy did a better job reporting on pandas.
i have come to expect stuff like that from msnbc and fox news because they are pay channels with an agenda. abc, a network, should know better and should act accordingly when false facts are reported. cbs does not play around. dan rather got fired for broadcasting false news about bush's service records. he has not been on a regular network since.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
I dnt understand how someone pretty much says he doesn't want his tax payer dollars to support the dropping of bombs killing children and here's the telling part, crossing over borders and taking land that's NOT there's. Pretty fucken clear who he's talking about. To say it's fucken Cambodia or Russia or Canada is complete bullshit. He ment Israel and he ment the crazy lunatics that want to kill running that country. And if u think other wise, like someone posted above, keep telling yourself that. Again. Thank u eddie for attaching your name to this cause.
All wars are one nation crossing into another's borders to take their land and resources. Whatever bs reason they say they doing it for, like protecting the world from bad guys or for "freedom" is just the cover so one nation can own what another nation has. Like the US crossing borders into Iraq...or the US crossing borders into Afghanistan to gain control of their poppy fields / production... that's why you go to war, to take what does not belong to you... but you need a good cover story to do that because the masses won't support blatant stealing... so they say there's a terrible tyrant killing his own people or ready to attack us... all wars are resource and land wars.
In theory a US citizen's tax dollars wouldn't be paying for Israeli bombs, they'd be paying for US bombs, the ones we drop on innocent children...like the depleted uranium bombs we dropped on Iraq... you should see the images of birth defects caused by depleted uranium in Iraq... it's quite disturbing.
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Most people are woefully undereducated on this topic; the more exposure and discussion the better. Nobody reads the train, except for a few die hards...I wish more of the people taking the time to read this would chime in over there. Besides, this thread is 100% PJ-related.
the american media is making the story and slanting the news, instead of doing it's job and reporting the facts.
ron burgundy did a better job reporting on pandas.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
turns out, i was right.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
lara logan got suspended for a debunked benghazi story on 60 minutes. sawyer should have gotten at least a suspension.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."