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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,667
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    No you won't we allready know where you two stand on any issues concerning folks that are not like yourselves , you two don't have an ounce of compassion combined ....


    You don't know jack. I've been on here for years saying that these Mideast wars where brown people get bombed for no reason are wrong. I've been saying that drones shooting missiles into Pakistan is an act of way, it's attacking a sovereign nation. Don't come at me and accuse me of that bs.
    oK , SO WHY NOT THESE BROWN KIDS why do they have to go ...
    Because there is a system in place if they want to come here legally. I'll be the first in line to congratulate them on going the correct route. They can't just bypass everything.
    you talk as if it's a simple 3 step process most of these kids don't have any $$$$$$$ nada silch and to get a visa from their home country is almost impossible you have to have $$$$ for a visa .....Again these kids are not well off ...
    I do? Absolutely not. I know it isn't easy. I had a Mexican guy work for me who had to go to Chicago every year to get his permission slips renewed, it is a headache. But it is worth it. Nothing worth doing is easy. That's why I have such passion against illegals getting preferential treatment, I have seen what it takes to do it the right way and I don't believe it is fair for them to jump ahead of my friend.

    You want reform? Fine, let's make it easier for those that are willing to do it the right way. But I want to make it more difficult to those that refuse to follow the rules, I want all incentives removed from them so that they don't take the wrong path. I want the border enforced. I want people that hire illegals to be thrown in prison. But I want those that go the right way to have the process a bit more streamlined.
    I'm right there with you on all these points but you do realize that the countries where these kids are from they don't give out visas specially to kids that have nothing to offer they have nothing to make them come back once the visas expire , that's why the wealthy get the visas because their government knows they will be coming back home once those visas expire ....These kids are not going to be sent back ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    know1 said:

    Indifference71 said:

    Shawshank said:



    We have veterans of every fucked up war we've fought, impoverished and living on the streets, not to mention families, and children throughout our nation who are sick, starving, and homeless. Please give me a valid reason why people who are breaking the law should somehow get priority treatment over the issues we are already struggling with.

    Completely agree. Shouldn't we take care of our own first??
    People are people. We shouldn't favor any because they're "our own" (whatever that means).
    Yes, people are people. But we should most certainly take care of "our own" first. It's insane to think that someone that is in this country illegally can get care and benefits over ANY legal American citizen, especially veterans.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited July 2014
    Jrogdûy
    Shawshank said:

    This is not a race issue, and anyone who makes it a race issue against those who oppose this, is being obtuse to say the least. If you will look at the pictures of the people protesting at the borders, and stopping bus loads of illegals, they appear to be mostly made up of individuals of Mexican heritage...not your typical "good ol' boy" white folks.

    The fact is, this country has a legal system in place for anyone and everyone who wants to live here. It is possible for nearly EVERYONE to come live in this great country if they follow the guidelines in place. However, to allow people to come in unchecked...(yes, that means we have to screen them for disease...and God forbid...make sure they aren't dangerous)...is positively asinine in every way. It's also a slap in the face to those that busted their ass, followed the law, and immigrated here legally.

    We have veterans of every fucked up war we've fought, impoverished and living on the streets, not to mention families, and children throughout our nation who are sick, starving, and homeless. Please give me a valid reason why people who are breaking the law should somehow get priority treatment over the issues we are already struggling with.

    The status quo of illegals sneaking into this country raises everyone's standard of living. Cheap labor. House prices are cheap in Texas due to low labor. Getting grass cut, fences built. I've never scene construction job that didn't have people that didn't only speak Spanish. Restaurants with bus boys you can't ask questions cause they don't speak English. Bubba that hates werbacks slurping down margaritas and eatin chips.

    The most fucked up part and I mean most overlooked fucked up part is they would not come if legal Americans would not hire them. One of the biggest home builders in Texas Perry homes donates shitload of money to Real conservative Republican Party and who builds his houses? "Private Contractors" that he's not responsible for checking papers. It's all a freakin farce. Go after those that hire illegals. The consumer not the drug. The kids are a tick on a fleas ass that makes headlines.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    And those that cross the border risking their lives going into a country that is hostile to provide have balls. Big balls. We're fucking pussies.

    Sorry Kat. Rant over.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,175
    i have a suggestion.

    let rick perry do something about it, since clearly obama can't because congress won't.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm on board with that.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,175
    i challenge perry right now.

    let perry take this chance to make history. let him do something. then if it is successful he gets credit. if it fails, and i know it will, he will have his name attached to it for all of history.

    BUT

    he wants to run for president, so he will not take the high risk high reward challenge i just issued to him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,175
    it is easier to sit back and talk shit about the president than actually do something of substance, because doing something of substance requires the balls to gamble on it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The Gov of Arizona did something about it, but we know how that turned out.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,175
    yes. it was unconstitutional.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    sounds like everybody is in favor of a one world order......you guys know how humans react to such an idea,some friggin obama-hitler type will want to rule the world
    and maybe it wont be all sunshine and flowers like you all think it will and infact I'd bet on it.

    Godfather.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    yes. it was unconstitutional.


    She did a lot of good things, the debate over constitutionality was based on ID's.
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Godfather. said:

    sounds like everybody is in favor of a one world order......you guys know how humans react to such an idea,some friggin obama-hitler type will want to rule the world
    and maybe it wont be all sunshine and flowers like you all think it will and infact I'd bet on it.

    Godfather.

    "Obama-Hitler type"....are you for real equating the two?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    EarlWelsh said:

    Godfather. said:

    sounds like everybody is in favor of a one world order......you guys know how humans react to such an idea,some friggin obama-hitler type will want to rule the world
    and maybe it wont be all sunshine and flowers like you all think it will and infact I'd bet on it.

    Godfather.

    "Obama-Hitler type"....are you for real equating the two?
    no.. but both were/are disasters to their own countries,can you prove that to be wrong ? both by-pass congress and their constutions to feed their agendas,both have/had the idead to unarm their nation....look how it worked out for hitler,he rounded up Jews with little to no resistance then killed them,not that obama has that plan in mind but he still keeps tring to run a dictatorship it semms.......notice I said "it seems" and to me that's what it looks like.

    Godfather.

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    First Hitler was appointed Chancellor before a free election sometime later that only garnered some like 40% of the vote for him. Second he didnt try to disarm the populace like the rampant memes suggest with that bullshit quote. Please open a book like a neutral encyclopedia or something before posted that kind of stuff. It paints you in a bad light.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mickeyrat said:

    First Hitler was appointed Chancellor before a free election sometime later that only garnered some like 40% of the vote for him. Second he didnt try to disarm the populace like the rampant memes suggest with that bullshit quote. Please open a book like a neutral encyclopedia or something before posted that kind of stuff. It paints you in a bad light.

    sorry for the history glitch but all in all he was evil unless there is more that I missed ? I knew he was appointed chancellor but from what I remember he ran with it and distroyed a country.

    Godfather.

  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    edited July 2014
    This guy makes a good point and hits on what I was already saying. Maybe it will come off as less racist since he's not white like some of the other people using common sense and logic on this issue. Skip to about 1:40... or skip to 5:25 if you want to see a lady also explain the situation in a way that's easy for most to understand.
    http://youtu.be/q_oyP0eDKZ0?t=1m38s
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    Godfather. said:

    mickeyrat said:

    First Hitler was appointed Chancellor before a free election sometime later that only garnered some like 40% of the vote for him. Second he didnt try to disarm the populace like the rampant memes suggest with that bullshit quote. Please open a book like a neutral encyclopedia or something before posted that kind of stuff. It paints you in a bad light.

    sorry for the history glitch but all in all he was evil unless there is more that I missed ? I knew he was appointed chancellor but from what I remember he ran with it and distroyed a country.

    Godfather.

    I'm hard pressed to believe it was a harmless "glitch" on your part. I havent always been kind, poked fun etc, but I do respect your consistency and the slight change in tone/understanding about new info not long ago. But seriously man, I can think of no other human being in hitlers class other than his top echelon.

    Whatever mistakes Obama has made missteps, etc, it isnt intentional and would help greatly if the Legislative body was not so god damn obstinate. Sit down and work something out. ALL of them. They may first and foremost be reps for their districts , But they are also working for the entire nation. And should act accordingly without the grandstanding and finger pointing.

    Point your finger at soemthing. Look closely at your hand. You will see 3 pointing back at you.

    NONE are exempt from my disdain. Propose something practical and pragmatic that moves us forward and not remain stuck in neutral about to blow the engine blowharding in front of the cameras.. Its fucking childish and makes us ALL a laughingstock with no moral authority or credibility anywhere. See where others are right and build on it for gods sake.For all our intelligence here in the US , as a country we are pretty fucking stupid.
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  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Godfather. said:

    EarlWelsh said:

    Godfather. said:

    sounds like everybody is in favor of a one world order......you guys know how humans react to such an idea,some friggin obama-hitler type will want to rule the world
    and maybe it wont be all sunshine and flowers like you all think it will and infact I'd bet on it.

    Godfather.

    "Obama-Hitler type"....are you for real equating the two?
    no.. but both were/are disasters to their own countries,can you prove that to be wrong ? both by-pass congress and their constutions to feed their agendas,both have/had the idead to unarm their nation....look how it worked out for hitler,he rounded up Jews with little to no resistance then killed them,not that obama has that plan in mind but he still keeps tring to run a dictatorship it semms.......notice I said "it seems" and to me that's what it looks like.

    Godfather.

    Off topic but I don't believe Obama is trying to disarm the nation, as NRA nuts would have you believe. He would like to keep gun ownership in the hands of responsible citizens and I'm with him on that particular subject.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    As much as I dislike Obama and the mess he has created in this country, there's no fucking way you can compare him to Hitler. That's just irresponsible and downright wrong. Come on GF, Hitler?

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