Hear the fans - Bring Pearl Jam To Israel
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Secularism refers to a State in which the government and religion are separated. That's not the case with Israel, which is asking that it be recognized as a Jewish State.rr165892 said:Byrnzie,I watched a show the other night on advancement in Medical Marijauna.Israel is on the leading edge of research.This is a good thing.But while watching I kept looking for signs of a society that is secular to a fault.Im calling bullshit dude.I saw almost equally as many Arab type folks working hand and hand with Jewish folk.All slave labor I guess??Seems to me many people are already living peacefully together.
And I already posted a long list of discriminatory policies in place inside Israel, right here in this thread. Maybe you should take a look at them? (Oh, sorry, I forgot; you're not interested in facts backed up by sources. You're just interested in opinions, right?).
One more thing, the show you watched on t.v: did it show you what life is like in the occupied Palestinian territories?
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Don't forget to support Neil Young's concert in Israel.
https://www.facebook.com/SupportNeilYoung
If it's successful we may see Pearl Jam play there after all.0 -
Groups will play there is the money is right and demand dictates.
Stones, lady gaga, justin timber lake, and soundgarden all could be playing in 2014.
As far as life in the "occupied territories", their own "governments" own that responsibility.
Peace can be negotiated.9.29.96, 8.28.98, 9.1.00, 7.5.03, 9.30.05, 6.1.06, 6.19.08, 6.20.08, 6.24.08, 10.27.09, 10.28.09, 10.30.09, 5.20.10, 9.3.11, 9.4.11, 9.2.12, 7.19.13...
2013- Brooklyn2, Philly1, Philly2, NOLA0 -
Not if they have a conscience.PhillyCrownOfThorns said:Groups will play there is the money is right and demand dictates.
No they don't. The occupying power is responsible for those under occupation.PhillyCrownOfThorns said:As far as life in the "occupied territories", their own "governments" own that responsibility.
http://www.btselem.org/publications/201306_area_c
Israel [...] violates the essential obligations of international humanitarian law, namely: to safeguard occupied territory on a temporary basis; to refrain from altering the area or exploiting its resources to benefit the occupying power; and, most importantly, to undertake to fulfill the needs of the local residents and respect their rights.
For more detail on Israels obligations as an occupying power, and of it's many violations of those same obligations, in blatant violation of international law, you can read this: http://www.eccpalestine.org/israels-obligations-as-an-occupying-power-under-international-law-its-violations-and-implications-for-eu-policy/
It already has been. Unfortunately though, the peace agreement which the whole World supports, gets vetoed by the U.S every year.PhillyCrownOfThorns said:Peace can be negotiated.
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yeah, cos little boys really are a threat and deserve to be shot
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-shows-unprovoked-cold-blooded-killing-palestinian-boys-israeli-forces0 -
Like a Phoenix this thread reappears from the depths of the interwebs.I thought after SG plays Isreal this summer it would have come back to life .Please Byrnzie entertain us!0
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eldarion75 said:
yeah, cos little boys really are a threat and deserve to be shot
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-shows-unprovoked-cold-blooded-killing-palestinian-boys-israeli-forces
Let's see them come out and defend this action. I'm waiting for the "it's wrong BUT......."
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Some of these same people are getting all upset cos Macklemore wore a wig and a big fake nose prosthetic at a show. They said he was being anti semetic and it's all over the media. He wasn't. He was just being a rock star. But they're weirdo quiet about innocents being shot on a daily basis. So completely screwed up.0
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I find it strange I didn't hear anything about this until recently. Israel's former Prime Minister sentenced to 6 years for bribery & corruption to approve controversial housing settlements? Where's the outrage?!eldarion75 said:Some of these same people are getting all upset cos Macklemore wore a wig and a big fake nose prosthetic at a show. They said he was being anti semetic and it's all over the media. He wasn't. He was just being a rock star. But they're weirdo quiet about innocents being shot on a daily basis. So completely screwed up.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/13/world/meast/israel-ehud-olmert-sentence/?hpt=hp_t1
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Roger Waters is a VERY WISE MAN.
I'm jus sayin0 -
Good on the Rolling Stones!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650048/Rolling-Stones-stars-Mick-Jagger-Ronnie-Wood-Charlie-Watts-visit-Jerusalems-Western-Wall-Israel-concert.html
Your turn to follow suit PJ!0 -
Good on the Israeli courts!BS44325 said:Good on the Rolling Stones!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650048/Rolling-Stones-stars-Mick-Jagger-Ronnie-Wood-Charlie-Watts-visit-Jerusalems-Western-Wall-Israel-concert.html
Your turn to follow suit PJ!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/world/middleeast/court-sentences-former-israeli-prime-minister-ehud-olmert.html
Your turn to follow suit Bibi!0 -
That's right! Good on the Israeli courts! You have demonstrated that Israel is in fact a democracy and a nation of laws. All the more reason for Pearl Jam to play there!CM189191 said:
Good on the Israeli courts!BS44325 said:Good on the Rolling Stones!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650048/Rolling-Stones-stars-Mick-Jagger-Ronnie-Wood-Charlie-Watts-visit-Jerusalems-Western-Wall-Israel-concert.html
Your turn to follow suit PJ!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/world/middleeast/court-sentences-former-israeli-prime-minister-ehud-olmert.html
Your turn to follow suit Bibi!
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Yes, a corrupt democracy with laws that oppress...BS44325 said:
That's right! Good on the Israeli courts! You have demonstrated that Israel is in fact a democracy and a nation of laws. All the more reason for Pearl Jam to play there!CM189191 said:
Good on the Israeli courts!BS44325 said:Good on the Rolling Stones!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650048/Rolling-Stones-stars-Mick-Jagger-Ronnie-Wood-Charlie-Watts-visit-Jerusalems-Western-Wall-Israel-concert.html
Your turn to follow suit PJ!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/world/middleeast/court-sentences-former-israeli-prime-minister-ehud-olmert.html
Your turn to follow suit Bibi!
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nothing to see, carry on...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israelis-beat-palestinian-american-teen-mother-says/
dont let them lie to you and say it wasnt Israeli soldiers.
Roger Waters is a very wise man, jus sayin'0 -
Ya, bring pearl jam to Israel. Wow, sickening, disgusting.rssesq said:nothing to see, carry on...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israelis-beat-palestinian-american-teen-mother-says/
dont let them lie to you and say it wasnt Israeli soldiers.
Roger Waters is a very wise man, jus sayin'0 -
Typical.Not a word from the Pro Palestinian/Hammas lovers on this board about the 3 kidnap,beaten,tortured and murdered Israeli kids (1 American)2 weeks ago that Hammas applauded.But this gets posted.SMH.
Although I do not support the action against this young man.or violence against any innocent. I would ask what were the kids doing?Playing ball,hanging with friends,etc?No I believe they were protesting in some fashion.I would like to hear both sides of this.0 -
the propaganda from all sides is the disgusting here..there are no Angels in this..
and music is different..is to connect people and not create enemies..and this band knows this better than anyone..."...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
Actually, the latest developments in the region make it even more clear how biased corporate media and western leaders are, and how far Israel's government will go to win favour. The IDF kills two Palestinians during nakba day protests, ON TAPE, and nary a word from international leaders. Three Israeli settlers are kidnapped and killed, and western leaders condemn Hamas without a shred of evidence. Meanwhile, the Israeli government, knowing full well that the three settlers were already dead, use the manhunt and body search to detain without charge hundreds of Palestinians, to murder several people, to impose curfews in the biggest army mobilization in years, to terrorize Palestinians all over the West Bank, and to begin aerial bombardment of gaza once again. They may be prepping for further military action against gaza. Then, acting on calls for vengeance by a chief rabbi, and incitement from bibi himself, another Palestinian is kidnapped, tortured, and burned alive by suspected Israeli settlers. A price tag killing. Again, where is the outrage from western leaders? As max blumenthal pointed out the other day, all we hear is how this is a 'cycle of violence', as if there are two equally at fault, equally strong sides locked in a power struggle. As if one side is not oppressor and the other the oppressed. As if there is no illegal occupation.Post edited by Drowned Out on0
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