I think we should go back to one show per tour per member. They can lottery until their hearts content with whatever tickets are leftover.
Agreed. Everyone wins at least that one show.
They are never going to guarantee everyone a ticket to a show.
Not guarantee…. limit.
OK, they are never going to able to make it so everyone wins at least one show.
How 'bout one show or no show, that's what I'm saying, rather than multiple wins by one guy and no shows won by another guy. It's fair.
The system was as fair as they could make it. Many people won on their fist choice, others in high demand cities did not unfortunately. And yes, Hartford and Worcester were high demand simialr to NY or Seattle. But it seems you think people not in high demand areas should be punished for this, or held accountable. Or you are just trolling on here now.
You just don't get it. Even though several people mentioned it is not fair that some people get shutout asking for a couple of shows when others win multiple, you won't see that point.
Actually you don't get it. And I have seen the point, you refuse to see the other side.I'm not sure you understand supply and demand. Or you refuse to, or are just trolling like I mentioned. For someone that put in for multiple shows like NYC, Hartford, and Worcester and did not get any, it is not surprising, and it is unfortunate those people got shut out on their first choice and remaing in those areas. All were very high demand, and they did not have the supply to get seats for everyone. But you think it is unfair that someone put in for Charlottesville and Charlotte with much lower demand and got both. Or those that went for Calgary and Vancouver. Or Spokane and Portland. It is obviously the people that went for lower demand cities fault that they won when those in high demand areas did not, even with 10c limiting certain cities to only winning one night. If my choices had all been NYC, Hartford, and Philly and I lost, I would have been upset, but I would have understood. Same as I would have understood that a person requesting Texas and Oklahoma with smaller fans bases got both.
I guess you have missed all the people that felt it was really fair not having to sit at a computer all day. I should say I never missed out in the F5 days, and I'm OK the lottery, and I have missed on shows.I've rad more people say the lottery is fair than those who have not. No system is going to be perfectly fair to everyone.
I was around in 1998 when they played 50+ shows and it was one per person. AND Ticketmaster did not have the cap on tickets that they do now. I'd be curious to see how you felt if it was one per show and you still lost the lottery, what argument would you make then that the system was not fair. Or fair for you to get seats I guess.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Spend all day and sometimes two days at computer hitting keyboard is for the birds. And many with jobs aren't able to do this. Soooo lottery all the way. And GA? Past the point in life of wanting sweaty drunks rub up against me and spill beer on me for four hours. Oh I've been in way too many GA shows. Mixing up first few rows is great but let's not diminish the value for those that have paid their fees consistently over the years.
Course if we got enough shows these types of threads would be mute.
I liked the GA option...but would like to see the WHOLE FLOOR GA!! It doesn't make any sense to me to stick people in seats behind the GA sections.
I agree! Any why were any 10C tix floor seats? Those were the worst seats in the whole place.
I had floor tickets-NOT GA to Portland and Vancouver, I could see just fine (and I'm really short). What difference does it make if I had floor seats with or without GA? I'm still sitting in the same seats, I just get more 'openings' between people with GA on half the floor. Security wasn't very strict with people moving around in their seats on the floor either, some people pushed their way to the 'rail' for the seats on the floor, and when everybody around them complained, security just let them go into GA...so is *that* fair?
I had seats on the side in Seattle, and my pics from the floor seats were better then the ones up on the side. Having seats and winning 1st row lottery was really great, you didn't have people pushing their way to the front, you had room to dance around, nobody rubbing up against your backside, kinda relaxing, so maybe that's why some people weren't excited when they had seated front rows.
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
Go back to the regular sales but stagger the shows. Either way we spend hours trying to get tickets or waiting for lottery results. I'd rather have some control over whether or not I get tix. Plus I strongly believe that with the lottery, a lot of people just enter for shows and think "if I get them I'll go", while with the old system you had to commit to going before you bought tix.
I don't think you can go back to F5. The last time they used it, it completely brought down the website (2011 Canada Tour). That was only for the Canada tour, not even something huge like a northeast tour. There was a reason the 10c stopped doing it.
I don't think the "I'll enter, and if I get 'em I'll go" has much of an impact. People are using their primary choice to choose the one they do want to go. The problem were discussing is that some of the shows are in such high demand they sell out in the first set of choices, so any extra choices are a moot point. Changing the ticketing system won't change much because people who chose that as a 3rd or 4th preferences aren't getting tickets to those shows anyways.
I think the preference system works pretty good because it allocates tickets to any given show to the people who said, that's the show I wanted to go to. It only starts to give out extra tickets when the people who flagged it "as their show" got allocated first. It's not moving to later rounds unless there's tickets left over. This means if hartford/brooklyn/philly all sold out in round 1/2 then it's completely different fans at each show.
The only real things that mess this up are splitting each show into two lotteries. It means you have to enter the lotto twice for the show you want to go to. You miss out on GA tickets, someone who split their first two prefs has equal shot at reserved as you do. I mentioned it before but they should probably consolidate to one lottery to prevent it from happening. Secondly the split the tour up. This means east coast people could get their tickets and shoot for seattle as #1 as well, and vice versa. I think it'd be better if they treated it all as one big tour so you didn't get an extra #1 pref.
I think the soul of the lottery system works. You can't have two #1 pref's, so for high demand shows, it's different people getting the tickets. If the show isn't as high demand, then there's leftover tickets and it fills using peoples other preferences. The problem is that people are pissed because they got shut out of shows when they rate it #1/#2. Nothing you can do about that. Not enough tickets when they aren't selling past 2nd pref.
personally, i don't get the hype with hometown shows. myriad threads and comments all over the site, many of them straight up whining "why do you hate such and such place?" annoying. I get that we go to the shows that are closest for convenience but i don't understand it beyond that. I enjoy travelling for shows, it really ups the ante and makes it more than just a concert. Camping on the beach between shows, backpacking after shows, visiting new cities. Much more romantic and grand and makes for better memories.
personally, i don't get the hype with hometown shows. myriad threads and comments all over the site, many of them straight up whining "why do you hate such and such place?" annoying. I get that we go to the shows that are closest for convenience but i don't understand it beyond that. I enjoy travelling for shows, it really ups the ante and makes it more than just a concert. Camping on the beach between shows, backpacking after shows, visiting new cities. Much more romantic and grand and makes for better memories.
Agree. Still use pj as excuse to see new places though can understand many don't have that option.
I don't mind the lottery even though I've had less than perfect luck with it. They really should get rid of GA here in the states though. It was pretty useless last year due to someone who arrived at the crack of dawn assigning designated spots within GA to each person, therefore circumventing the entire idea of GA because then everyone had a designated spot. Why not just have a seat? My response would have been comical if I were in GA and someone told me I couldn't stand somewhere I wanted to stand, but I heard that actually happened.
"All I Ever Knew" available now in print and digital formats at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and iBooks.
I went a combined 0-4 in the Wrigley lottery but then I got my 2nd and 3rd choices in the fall lottery. I think the popularity of the show has a lot to do with how people do in the lottery. I was only trying for Dallas and Oklahoma City in the fall which is a lot different than trying for Brooklyn and Philadelphia.
Sometimes you find yourself Having to put all your faith In no faith
The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).
I would like 2 adjustments to the lottery.
First, I wish we could select a city once for a ticket & then check a box if we are interested in GA instead of having to use 2 choices on 1 city. This would also give you a chance at GA for your 2nd choice city in case you miss out on your 1st choice. That way, you're not 1 & done on a chance for GA if you are going to try & attend 2 or 3 shows (or more).
Second, who knows how much control the band or club has over it, but it would be nice if the fan club seats were all either the GA or on the lower sides and none in the reserved floor behind the GA. It's not like the seats won't sell, but hopefully they wouldn't be considered a preferred fan club seat on the back of the floor.
3/22/94 Cleveland, OH
9/21/96 Toronto, ON
8/26/98 Cleveland, OH
5/09/10 Cleveland, OH
9/03/11 East Troy, WI PJ20
9/04/11 East Troy, WI PJ20
7/19/13 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh, PA
10/12/13 Buffalo, NY
12/06/13 Seattle, WA
10/16/14 Detroit, MI
10/17/14 Moline, IL
8/20/16 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
I believe the best progression would be to detach the ga as on option. You put in for a show and have the option of a ga drawing from a Dropbox when you put in for tix. Then out of all those that win, they lottery off the ga tix... say they are 10% of the allocation. They would go to 10% of members 0 through 100xxx with tix, 10% of members 100001 through 200000 with tix and so forth.
This would make it much less appealing for scalpers (including those among us) to load up on extra 600xxx memberships to go for ga tix only
I like this. I always got my tickets with f5, and also didn't have to sit there trying for hours, but I also scored with the lottery. Yes, you do have to make your choices wisely. I am actually beginning to like the lottery more than F5 now. What i think is cool is that there is a little more time to think tour scenarios through. We changed our choices several times and in the end had it the way we felt most comfy with. It was much more smooth than the stress with F5.
Last fall, we had GA as well as seats. The Seattle tickets we got through ticketmaster. They were the second shittiest seats in the house (second to last row behind the stage hahaha), but we still had a great time. People who don't score can very easily get sorted afterwards. There are always people who need ticket buddies and the whole fan community is helping each other out.
With what MayDay10 suggested above, there would still be an element of surprise if you checked the box for GA.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).
F5 wasnt all luck, trust me. I was never shut out. There was a level of dedication, persistence, and resourcefulness that went into it. There were a lot of little tricks (legal) such as clearing your temp internet files, and f5-ing the right page when you got in, and even hovering the mouse near where the BUY button will appear. You also couldnt stop until the fat lady sung.
I do like your other take on the GA "sub-lottery" that I am in favor of. I do like the idea of having a chance for in your second choice.
Im also really hate the back of the floor. Worst seats in the building IMO. Im just staring at people's backs.
The results of both the lottery & F5 method are both luck. The lottery is just less time consuming & less stressful (except for the waiting part).
F5 wasnt all luck, trust me. I was never shut out. There was a level of dedication, persistence, and resourcefulness that went into it. There were a lot of little tricks (legal) such as clearing your temp internet files, and f5-ing the right page when you got in, and even hovering the mouse near where the BUY button will appear. You also couldnt stop until the fat lady sung.
I do like your other take on the GA "sub-lottery" that I am in favor of. I do like the idea of having a chance for in your second choice.
Im also really hate the back of the floor. Worst seats in the building IMO. Im just staring at people's backs.
I agree about F5, but there are additional challenges these days. We have more fan club members than we did 4 or 5 years ago and less tickets. Even though F5 worked (sort of) on the tours back then, I don't think it would work as well now. The 2011 Canadian tour was sort of the nail in the coffin. You couldn't buy with F5. The website was brought to it's knees.
I never missed tickets with F5, but under the current climate I think the lotto is the more fair method. I completely agree that two lotteries per show doesn't quite work as well as it was intended. It gives people a chance to split shows and compete against people that maybe don't have tickets yet. One lotto per show would be a good tweak. Having people randomly win GA from the single lottery would work. People also wouldn't know in advance which would help prevent abuse from multiple memberships.
Back of the floor does suck. I'm 6'2 and once I find 20th row on the floor is pushing it for me. At that point I'd rather being in the wings somewhere.
yes. Despite my "skills", Im 100% in favor of the lottery, if what you describe is put in. As far as the separate GA one as it was last US tour, Im 100% against it.
I love the lottery -- I've played this one by picking GA 1 / Res 2 for one low demand show, and I plan to enjoy one heck of a trip to Nebraska if I win. If I don't win the lottery, then whatever. There's more than one way to get to Nebraska.
I can appreciate that the lottery gets complicated for people who road trip to multiple shows and have many factors to consider. My tour preference is to coordinate a fuller vacation around a single show instead of following the band through multiple cities. Picking an option is easy for me.
Go back to the regular sales but stagger the shows. Either way we spend hours trying to get tickets or waiting for lottery results. I'd rather have some control over whether or not I get tix. Plus I strongly believe that with the lottery, a lot of people just enter for shows and think "if I get them I'll go", while with the old system you had to commit to going before you bought tix.
If they ever did go back, they'd have to keep GA and seats, as two seating options just further divides up the tickets and makes more options. Of course, they'd still have the "one pair per person per show" policy, so if you bought two, you'd be rejected one and then another sale for people who missed out the first time.
As far as the bold part, this new system, you're still having to commit. Even if you win the lotto, your card is still charged.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
Think the biggest thing they need to do is get rid of the two types of tickets.
Pretty silly to not get tickets if you're chosen, because you chose the wrong type of seat for your first choice.
Just have cities, with a yes/no for GA. You get picked, and there are seats left, you get them.
If you want GA and those are left, you get them.
I guess I don't mind the lottery. F5 is a lottery just in a different form.
Good idea. If you click "yes" for GA, then you'd have a chance of getting them. If you click "No", then your chance of getting GA would be 0%.
Yeah... they're all essentially a lottery. My first tour was the "send in a postcard and money order for each show with your name, 10C number, address" system. Even that was a lotto.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
I'm new to the 10 club - I just joined January of last year. So this is my first attempt at getting tickets through the fan club. I'll say this - if I had my choice, I would just go to just te Moline show. I live in Chicago, so that's the best option. But hearing the odds and all that stuff, I have put my hat in the lottery for 3 different shows. I am prepared to go to all 3 if I happen to get chosen.....and will have a great time of course.
What kind of sucks to me is that I feel like I had to put in for 3 shows to at least give myself a decent chance at one show. But what if I get seats for all 3? It's great for me - but those tickets for 1 or 2 of those shows would have been better served with someone who didn't get tickets for any show....wouldn't they?
I guess it just surprises me that they would let some people get tickets to multiple shows, and have others who wanted the same shows get completely shut out. You'd think it would be easy to have the system give a pair of tickets to as many people as possible, before it starts giving people tickets to multiple shows? Their system not doing this is causing some of us (or probably a lot of us) to try to get tickets for shows we wouldn't have otherwise tried to go to. Does that make sense?
Oh well. Good luck to everyone in the lottery tomorrow!!
I'm currently 7 for 40 on winning the lottery since they started it, inclusive of the test runs for prizes. I'm 11 of 40 for the shows I wanted to go to, meaning I found tickets or partnered up with someone and we split or shared our success. When F5 ruled the day, I wasn't shut out until Alpine and even then, it was 18 hours of F5-ing for fan club tix and another 6 of F5 for ticket bastard tix, scoring lawn seats. I eventually traded and stubhubed for seats under the roof. Shut out of wrigley10C tix but found a way with a fellow fan club member of decent seats and a great time.
I'm resigned to the lottery and view it as I put in my choices and it's out of my hands. Better to go about my day than spend hours at a computer stressing. And if I really want to go, I'll find a way. If not, oh well. However, I'd like to see a two round selection process whereas you're notified of your winning selections and then have 5 days to confirm your attendance. It would make for more efficient planning and if you won multiple shows but only really wanted the closest to your home, you could toss them back and give someone else a shot. Anything left after the 5 day second round would go to public on sale. Not that any would be left. And I think it would be cool that if you couldn't make the show, you could notify 10C and officially donate your tickets to a local charity like boys/girls club or a random fan waiting at will call to see if tickets drop(I know it's unlikely and fraught with argument but shit happens that keeps you from attending a show).
Anyway, good luck to everyone in the lottery, safe travels and enjoy the shows!
I am reserving my lottery opinion until 5/28. Lost EVERY Wrigley lottery 0-4 (GA Upper - RES Lower, RES Upper, "added" Lower & Upper). Won 2 out of 3 for Fall 2013 (WON Hartford #1 & Philly #3 - Lost Worcester #2) *priority choices. Put in for Denver (#1), Moline (#2), and Memphis (#3) for Fall 2014. Would HATE to lose Denver as my #1 and most wanted-more than anything-show at #1 but would feel consolidated if I won At LEAST Denver OR Moline at #1 & #2. Will be CONFUSED AS FUCK if I lose Memphis, considering the odds are 99%. If THAT happens, then I will REALLY need someone to FULLY EXPLAIN this "lottery" thing.
1994 Boston 1998 Mansfield 2000 Atlanta & Mansfield 2003 Mansfield (X2) 2004 Boston 2006 Chicago & Boston (x2) 2008 Mansfield (x2) 2009 Chicago 2010 Buffalo & Boston 2011 Toronto 2012 Amsterdam 2013 Wrigley, Worcerster (x2), Philly, & Hartford 2014 Memphis, Moline, Denver 2016 Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Hampton, Philly, Fenway (x2), Wrigley Monday 2018 Wrigley (x2), Fenway (x2) 2022 MSG. Nashville 2023 Ft. Worth 2, Austin (x2) 2024 Vegas 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway (x2), Auckland (x2), Gold Coast, Melbourne 1
I long for the days when people only complained about the seats they got, not whether they got seats. I am grateful that I had almost a decade of plentiful seats that were great (those days are clearly over) and that going to a pearl jam show is low on my priority list.
I long for the days when people only complained about the seats they got, not whether they got seats. I am grateful that I had almost a decade of plentiful seats that were great (those days are clearly over) and that going to a pearl jam show is low on my priority list.
Yeah how far back they got or if they got Front Row or not...now it's whether they get Tickets at all lol
Not really...you have to be drawn first to stand a chance. And that's what I don't like about it.
Have been in the club many years and have paid more money for the privilege of retaining my number. I'm no smaller or bigger fan than anyone here. It has nothing to do with that.
But the ticket policy had remained the same since day one, so the lottery seemed to be a drastic change for long-timers with a lower number.
I won nothing the last lottery with a 189 number. Yet I see someone post here that they had won with a 400+ number for the same show. That was very difficult to accept.
Loyalty is my main issue, I guess. But I love this band and I'm along for the ride, regardless.
Comments
I guess you have missed all the people that felt it was really fair not having to sit at a computer all day. I should say I never missed out in the F5 days, and I'm OK the lottery, and I have missed on shows.I've rad more people say the lottery is fair than those who have not. No system is going to be perfectly fair to everyone.
I was around in 1998 when they played 50+ shows and it was one per person. AND Ticketmaster did not have the cap on tickets that they do now. I'd be curious to see how you felt if it was one per show and you still lost the lottery, what argument would you make then that the system was not fair. Or fair for you to get seats I guess.
Course if we got enough shows these types of threads would be mute.
I had seats on the side in Seattle, and my pics from the floor seats were better then the ones up on the side.
Having seats and winning 1st row lottery was really great, you didn't have people pushing their way to the front, you had room to dance around, nobody rubbing up against your backside, kinda relaxing, so maybe that's why some people weren't excited when they had seated front rows.
- Christopher McCandless
Posters for Sale: http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/117469/posters-for-sale
T-Shirts for Sale: http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/149289/pj-t-shirt-trade-or-sale
I don't think the "I'll enter, and if I get 'em I'll go" has much of an impact. People are using their primary choice to choose the one they do want to go. The problem were discussing is that some of the shows are in such high demand they sell out in the first set of choices, so any extra choices are a moot point. Changing the ticketing system won't change much because people who chose that as a 3rd or 4th preferences aren't getting tickets to those shows anyways.
I think the preference system works pretty good because it allocates tickets to any given show to the people who said, that's the show I wanted to go to. It only starts to give out extra tickets when the people who flagged it "as their show" got allocated first. It's not moving to later rounds unless there's tickets left over. This means if hartford/brooklyn/philly all sold out in round 1/2 then it's completely different fans at each show.
The only real things that mess this up are splitting each show into two lotteries. It means you have to enter the lotto twice for the show you want to go to. You miss out on GA tickets, someone who split their first two prefs has equal shot at reserved as you do. I mentioned it before but they should probably consolidate to one lottery to prevent it from happening. Secondly the split the tour up. This means east coast people could get their tickets and shoot for seattle as #1 as well, and vice versa. I think it'd be better if they treated it all as one big tour so you didn't get an extra #1 pref.
I think the soul of the lottery system works. You can't have two #1 pref's, so for high demand shows, it's different people getting the tickets. If the show isn't as high demand, then there's leftover tickets and it fills using peoples other preferences. The problem is that people are pissed because they got shut out of shows when they rate it #1/#2. Nothing you can do about that. Not enough tickets when they aren't selling past 2nd pref.
Having to put all your faith
In no faith
I would like 2 adjustments to the lottery.
First, I wish we could select a city once for a ticket & then check a box if we are interested in GA instead of having to use 2 choices on 1 city. This would also give you a chance at GA for your 2nd choice city in case you miss out on your 1st choice. That way, you're not 1 & done on a chance for GA if you are going to try & attend 2 or 3 shows (or more).
Second, who knows how much control the band or club has over it, but it would be nice if the fan club seats were all either the GA or on the lower sides and none in the reserved floor behind the GA. It's not like the seats won't sell, but hopefully they wouldn't be considered a preferred fan club seat on the back of the floor.
9/21/96 Toronto, ON
8/26/98 Cleveland, OH
5/09/10 Cleveland, OH
9/03/11 East Troy, WI PJ20
9/04/11 East Troy, WI PJ20
7/19/13 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh, PA
10/12/13 Buffalo, NY
12/06/13 Seattle, WA
10/16/14 Detroit, MI
10/17/14 Moline, IL
8/20/16 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field
Last fall, we had GA as well as seats. The Seattle tickets we got through ticketmaster. They were the second shittiest seats in the house (second to last row behind the stage hahaha), but we still had a great time. People who don't score can very easily get sorted afterwards. There are always people who need ticket buddies and the whole fan community is helping each other out.
With what MayDay10 suggested above, there would still be an element of surprise if you checked the box for GA.
I do like your other take on the GA "sub-lottery" that I am in favor of. I do like the idea of having a chance for in your second choice.
Im also really hate the back of the floor. Worst seats in the building IMO. Im just staring at people's backs.
I never missed tickets with F5, but under the current climate I think the lotto is the more fair method. I completely agree that two lotteries per show doesn't quite work as well as it was intended. It gives people a chance to split shows and compete against people that maybe don't have tickets yet. One lotto per show would be a good tweak. Having people randomly win GA from the single lottery would work. People also wouldn't know in advance which would help prevent abuse from multiple memberships.
Back of the floor does suck. I'm 6'2 and once I find 20th row on the floor is pushing it for me. At that point I'd rather being in the wings somewhere.
Pretty silly to not get tickets if you're chosen, because you chose the wrong type of seat for your first choice.
Just have cities, with a yes/no for GA. You get picked, and there are seats left, you get them.
If you want GA and those are left, you get them.
I guess I don't mind the lottery. F5 is a lottery just in a different form.
I can appreciate that the lottery gets complicated for people who road trip to multiple shows and have many factors to consider. My tour preference is to coordinate a fuller vacation around a single show instead of following the band through multiple cities. Picking an option is easy for me.
If they ever did go back, they'd have to keep GA and seats, as two seating options just further divides up the tickets and makes more options. Of course, they'd still have the "one pair per person per show" policy, so if you bought two, you'd be rejected one and then another sale for people who missed out the first time.
As far as the bold part, this new system, you're still having to commit. Even if you win the lotto, your card is still charged.
Good idea. If you click "yes" for GA, then you'd have a chance of getting them. If you click "No", then your chance of getting GA would be 0%.
Yeah... they're all essentially a lottery. My first tour was the "send in a postcard and money order for each show with your name, 10C number, address" system. Even that was a lotto.
What kind of sucks to me is that I feel like I had to put in for 3 shows to at least give myself a decent chance at one show. But what if I get seats for all 3? It's great for me - but those tickets for 1 or 2 of those shows would have been better served with someone who didn't get tickets for any show....wouldn't they?
I guess it just surprises me that they would let some people get tickets to multiple shows, and have others who wanted the same shows get completely shut out. You'd think it would be easy to have the system give a pair of tickets to as many people as possible, before it starts giving people tickets to multiple shows? Their system not doing this is causing some of us (or probably a lot of us) to try to get tickets for shows we wouldn't have otherwise tried to go to. Does that make sense?
Oh well. Good luck to everyone in the lottery tomorrow!!
I'm resigned to the lottery and view it as I put in my choices and it's out of my hands. Better to go about my day than spend hours at a computer stressing. And if I really want to go, I'll find a way. If not, oh well. However, I'd like to see a two round selection process whereas you're notified of your winning selections and then have 5 days to confirm your attendance. It would make for more efficient planning and if you won multiple shows but only really wanted the closest to your home, you could toss them back and give someone else a shot. Anything left after the 5 day second round would go to public on sale. Not that any would be left. And I think it would be cool that if you couldn't make the show, you could notify 10C and officially donate your tickets to a local charity like boys/girls club or a random fan waiting at will call to see if tickets drop(I know it's unlikely and fraught with argument but shit happens that keeps you from attending a show).
Anyway, good luck to everyone in the lottery, safe travels and enjoy the shows!
Peace.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
1998 Mansfield
2000 Atlanta & Mansfield
2003 Mansfield (X2)
2004 Boston
2006 Chicago & Boston (x2)
2008 Mansfield (x2)
2009 Chicago
2010 Buffalo & Boston
2011 Toronto
2012 Amsterdam
2013 Wrigley, Worcerster (x2), Philly, & Hartford
2014 Memphis, Moline, Denver
2016 Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Hampton, Philly, Fenway (x2), Wrigley Monday
2018 Wrigley (x2), Fenway (x2)
2022 MSG. Nashville
2023 Ft. Worth 2, Austin (x2)
2024 Vegas 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway (x2), Auckland (x2), Gold Coast, Melbourne 1
Fair if you have a GOOD Number
******************************************************************************
Not really...you have to be drawn first to stand a chance. And that's what I don't like about it.
Have been in the club many years and have paid more money for the privilege of retaining my number. I'm no smaller or bigger fan than anyone here. It has nothing to do with that.
But the ticket policy had remained the same since day one, so the lottery seemed to be a drastic change for long-timers with a lower number.
I won nothing the last lottery with a 189 number. Yet I see someone post here that they had won with a 400+ number for the same show. That was very difficult to accept.
Loyalty is my main issue, I guess. But I love this band and I'm along for the ride, regardless.