About that Kiss........WTF ?
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I agree with this wholeheartedly.......it's 2014, unreal people still make an issue with this kind of non issue issue....time to get with the times GF, this Muslim seems to not have an issue with it.josevolution said:It's only an issue for bigots that are every where that just can't come to terms that people that are gay can actually love eachother as if love should only be between a MAN& WOMAN ....No team owner would be foolish enough to outcast this player the repercussions from the public would be crazy ...I don't care who is on my team that i root for as long as you can make plays ....
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Yeah I agree. Taking it to far and not helping his cause.Jason P said:It is interesting the Sam said he wants to be known as Sam the football player, the gay football player, is in works with Oprah to do a documentary of his preseason.
It makes sense to make a payday while you have a chance, but it goes against what he claims. I think it will also cause a distraction for a rookie to be doing something like this and will alienate himself from teammates, especially veterans.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
BB. that's pretty funny. Well played.badbrains said:
I agree with this wholeheartedly.......it's 2014, unreal people still make an issue with this kind of non issue issue....time to get with the times GF, this Muslim seems to not have an issue with it.josevolution said:It's only an issue for bigots that are every where that just can't come to terms that people that are gay can actually love eachother as if love should only be between a MAN& WOMAN ....No team owner would be foolish enough to outcast this player the repercussions from the public would be crazy ...I don't care who is on my team that i root for as long as you can make plays ....
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Jason P said:
It turned out he is married to Brienne of Tarth! I'm sure quite a few made mention of that.callen said:When Bubba won golf tourney no one made mention of how he kissed his wife and cried. How is this different?
Lol!
I think that Sam should release a sex tape so that people can watch it and get over it. I don't give 2 shits about someone's sexuality and generally dont want to watch anyone eat their lover's face off in public via a deep kiss.
To me it is just like people looking down their noses as someone who smokes, drinks, is fat, is skinny...whatever. Like who/what you want and exercise your right to buy or not product from the Rams based on Sam's playing (or not) for the team.
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BB I forgot you are Muslim but if you were a gay Muslim Opra might give you your own reality showbadbrains said:josevolution said:It's only an issue for bigots that are every where that just can't come to terms that people that are gay can actually love eachother as if love should only be between a MAN& WOMAN ....No team owner would be foolish enough to outcast this player the repercussions from the public would be crazy ...I don't care who is on my team that i root for as long as you can make plays ....
I agree with this wholeheartedly.......it's 2014, unreal people still make an issue with this kind of non issue issue....time to get with the times GF, this Muslim seems to not have an issue with it.) btw the repercusions that you are talking about are the fans and that is one of the things that could worry a team owner (will this hurt us or not) the whole world is split on the gay issue I think that's a fact that is hard to dispute so the owners naturally have to concider this when signing a guy that went as far as using the media to tell the world he is gay and then accept a reality t.v show ? as far as the teams business ideas and moves these are things I'm sure they have to take into account.
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) awesome! good to see ya, jasun
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BTW, Godfather... Michael Sam's jersey is currently the top-selling jersey going. And that means a very big thing... gay men are going to start watching football. you're going to have to get used to sharing the field with us.0
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And now a HUGE group of formerly closeted gay teenage boys and young men are going to have a role model. They're going to be empowered to come out. And they will.
The avalanche has just started. Soon every school is going to see gay players on every one of their teams. Every pro sport will have their gay stars. It won't be long before there are top-rated gay baseball players, hockey players, soccer players and football players everywhere. And it won't be long before they start dating out gay movie and music stars... imagine a star pitcher dating Matt Bomber or Zachary Quinto, a gay quarterback dating Wentworth Miller or Eric Himan. I mean... it's going to happen.
The more famous people come out, the more regular people will be ready to do it.
This is not a career-ender, as you say... this is a GREAT beginning.0 -
POD! Great to see you back here!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I was wondering if he'd show up in this thread...:and he sure made an entrance!brianlux said:POD! Great to see you back here!
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Prince Of Dorkness said:
BTW, Godfather... Michael Sam's jersey is currently the top-selling jersey going. And that means a very big thing... gay men are going to start watching football. you're going to have to get used to sharing the field with us.
dude I'm not a sports fan..maybe a charger game here and there but I can't even tell you who is on the team anymore,and yes btw those pic's you posted turn my gut but that's why you posted them and if as you say gay players will be more prominit in sports I believe you will see the end of enough fan support in large enough numbers to do some damage to the teams and their media support (televised games) because if enough tickets arn't sold games are not aired,I don't think the world of sports fan's are ready to see another Michael Sam every time they sit down to watch a game, just my opinion.Prince Of Dorkness said:BTW, Godfather... Michael Sam's jersey is currently the top-selling jersey going. And that means a very big thing... gay men are going to start watching football. you're going to have to get used to sharing the field with us.
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) this whole thing will spark a hollywood movie and they'll call it "BLOCK THAT PUNT"
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....a little humor to had.
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Unless someone's an asshole (for lack of a better term), I can't see someone previously hardcore into a team refusing to attend or watch them because of openly-gay players. Fans dug them when they were closeted; the only difference is now they, god forbid, are living life openly - as they should.Godfather. said:
dude I'm not a sports fan..maybe a charger game here and there but I can't even tell you who is on the team anymore,and yes btw those pic's you posted turn my gut but that's why you posted them and if as you say gay players will be more prominit in sports I believe you will see the end of enough fan support in large enough numbers to do some damage to the teams and their media support (televised games) because if enough tickets arn't sold games are not aired,I don't think the world of sports fan's are ready to see another Michael Sam every time they sit down to watch a game, just my opinion.
Godfather.
We have (had) members of the military who are gay. Does that mean not wanting to support active members and veterans?
No one says everyone has to accept or like everything. I just don't get being so heated to take action. It doesn't hurt anyone; live and let live.
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my comment was aimed towards his statement of players coming out of the closet by the hords...which I doubt will ever happen but I still think sports fan's in general are not in any hury to see a sam infestation of their favorite sport, I'm not a sports fan so if I'm wrong then cool I am wrong but I doubt we'll find out any time soon.hedonist said:
Unless someone's an asshole (for lack of a better term), I can't see someone previously hardcore into a team refusing to attend or watch them because of openly-gay players. Fans dug them when they were closeted; the only difference is now they, god forbid, are living life openly - as they should.Godfather. said:
dude I'm not a sports fan..maybe a charger game here and there but I can't even tell you who is on the team anymore,and yes btw those pic's you posted turn my gut but that's why you posted them and if as you say gay players will be more prominit in sports I believe you will see the end of enough fan support in large enough numbers to do some damage to the teams and their media support (televised games) because if enough tickets arn't sold games are not aired,I don't think the world of sports fan's are ready to see another Michael Sam every time they sit down to watch a game, just my opinion.
Godfather.
We have (had) members of the military who are gay. Does that mean not wanting to support active members and veterans?
No one says everyone has to accept or like everything. I just don't get being so heated to take action. It doesn't hurt anyone; live and let live.
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As a devout follower of sport, I can tell you, Godfather, that an athlete's performance in the sporting arena is what matters to fans.
Even the most homophobic, one-toothed, shotgun toting red neck will soon forget their hateful ways if a gay athlete plays well for their favourite team.
Sam isn't a great football player (comparatively speaking to the other players in the NFL and the other players drafted)- he won't be the 'Michael Jordan' for the gay athlete cause. That day will come though... and when it does, that day will prove to be monumental for eradicating much of the lingering animosity held for gay people.
Sam is an interesting story though and the moment has been positive for society. I hope he does well under the media scrutiny. He's been placed in an unfair situation."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I really don't see the problem...If He wasn't Gay and Kissed His Female Partner then No Big Deal...But because He's Partner IS Gay then all of a Sudden it's this Big Huge Deal.
A lot of the Problem in this World is People in General that is always Think they Know what's Best for Other People...The Kiss didn't Hurt anyone whatsoever so There's no Problem here.0
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