I really enjoyed the last 8 or ten posts, it's really kind of cool reading everybodys take on people and their ideas and thoughts on how people react of feel about different subjects or topics, I see where you are all coming from and to a point I would agree with you but I have my beliefs and opinions and many of you have yours but I don't use words like bigot or racist to discribe you or anybody else,I guess I just see things differently,maybe I don't agree with or accept some things in life that others do but I don't expect them to change for me and that's one of the differences between us , you all seem to expect others to change or accept what you feel is right "live and let live" could be the phrase for life but ...here it comes....we all have that human desire to do things differently and to fight (verbaly or otherwise) for our thoughts and beliefs so at the end of the day are you guy's right or am I right ? as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
Godfather.
But didn't YOU call all us Muslims terrorists??? I could've sworn u and I got into it before because of that. So when someone calls u a bigot or a racist, it's because YOURE views come across as that.
Am I the only one who thinks someone else wrote what GF wrote here? Doesn't have his usual grammar and fuck ups in it )
I really enjoyed the last 8 or ten posts, it's really kind of cool reading everybodys take on people and their ideas and thoughts on how people react of feel about different subjects or topics, I see where you are all coming from and to a point I would agree with you but I have my beliefs and opinions and many of you have yours but I don't use words like bigot or racist to discribe you or anybody else,I guess I just see things differently,maybe I don't agree with or accept some things in life that others do but I don't expect them to change for me and that's one of the differences between us , you all seem to expect others to change or accept what you feel is right "live and let live" could be the phrase for life but ...here it comes....we all have that human desire to do things differently and to fight (verbaly or otherwise) for our thoughts and beliefs so at the end of the day are you guy's right or am I right ? as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
Godfather.
But didn't YOU call all us Muslims terrorists??? I could've sworn u and I got into it before because of that. So when someone calls u a bigot or a racist, it's because YOURE views come across as that.
Am I the only one who thinks someone else wrote what GF wrote here? Doesn't have his usual grammar and fuck ups in it )
are you nuckin futs ? ) now do you see me in this post ?
as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
I agree with this, GF, though it might behoove you to (re?)read the recent post from Thirty. Sound advice given without condescension.
I've read posts of yours touching upon your son and other life experiences, and they don't reflect a heartless man. I'm not looking to change your mind - got neither the energy nor desire to do so - but hopefully you can try to see things from a different view.
Even if you don't succeed, at least you made the effort.
I really enjoyed the last 8 or ten posts, it's really kind of cool reading everybodys take on people and their ideas and thoughts on how people react of feel about different subjects or topics, I see where you are all coming from and to a point I would agree with you but I have my beliefs and opinions and many of you have yours but I don't use words like bigot or racist to discribe you or anybody else,I guess I just see things differently,maybe I don't agree with or accept some things in life that others do but I don't expect them to change for me and that's one of the differences between us , you all seem to expect others to change or accept what you feel is right "live and let live" could be the phrase for life but ...here it comes....we all have that human desire to do things differently and to fight (verbaly or otherwise) for our thoughts and beliefs so at the end of the day are you guy's right or am I right ? as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
Godfather.
But didn't YOU call all us Muslims terrorists??? I could've sworn u and I got into it before because of that. So when someone calls u a bigot or a racist, it's because YOURE views come across as that.
Am I the only one who thinks someone else wrote what GF wrote here? Doesn't have his usual grammar and fuck ups in it )
were you born into muslam or did you convert ? where you born and raised muslim in America or were you born in the middle east and came to America ? I'm guessing you where born here or at least raised here because your english (in words) seems good, what is the punishment for gay people in the middle east ? you seem to talk about the pain and suffering of gay's and blacks in America but what about YOUR place loyalty and it's views on gays ? is it much different than America ? or the penality for rape with 4 witness's or the womans punishment if there are not 4 witness's to collaborate her story....or is all this why you or your family came to America to avoid thiese unfair law's ? what's it called shira law ? or something like that ? anyway thank you for proof reading my post BB.
as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
I agree with this, GF, though it might behoove you to (re?)read the recent post from Thirty. Sound advice given without condescension.
I've read posts of yours touching upon your son and other life experiences, and they don't reflect a heartless man. I'm not looking to change your mind - got neither the energy nor desire to do so - but hopefully you can try to see things from a different view.
Even if you don't succeed, at least you made the effort.
(and that goes for us all)
no I am by far not a heartless man but I am strong in my beliefs and would never intentually hurt anybody but I also I never back down or sournder my beliefs just to please the crowd, I am who I am, I think most people are that way. giving into anothers view or opinion just to make them feel better is the same as lieing to them and don't do that either,if you ask me my opinion I will give it and try not dis credit your feelings,the best I can do is be as honest as I can with you or anybody else but if somebody makes personal attacks at me I will also act in kind (yes I know that's wrong)
I really enjoyed the last 8 or ten posts, it's really kind of cool reading everybodys take on people and their ideas and thoughts on how people react of feel about different subjects or topics. I see where you are all coming from and to a point I would agree with you but I have my beliefs and opinions and many of you have yours. but, I don't use words like bigot or racist to discribe you or anybody else. I guess I just see things differently, maybe I don't agree with or accept some things in life that others do but I don't expect them to change for me and that's one of the differences between us , you all seem to expect others to change or accept what you feel is right "live and let live" could be the phrase for life but ...here it comes....we all have that human desire to do things differently and to fight (verbaly or otherwise) for our thoughts and beliefs so at the end of the day are you guy's right or am I right ? as long as people don't deliberattly hurt each other we should be good right ?
Godfather.
.. That's a pretty good summation, sir. When you talk about "Living and Letting others Live"... that is a good proposition. But, I hope you understand that you must also abide to that concept, too... right? I mean, if you do possess certain view points that are bigoted and express opinions based upon those bigoted views... you have to own them. You should not take offense if people call you a bigot because you are the one living the bigoted life. You live your life... and you let others live theirs... which includes them having certain opposing opinions about your views on life. Think of it like this... If I were to say something like, "I would never marry a Jew... there's just something about them that I don't like"... I could not follow that statement with, "But.. I'm not an Anti-Semite", because that makes no sense, right? By my mere expression, I am pinning the Anti-Semite label on myself... you are not tagging me with it. You'd be able to tell me that my views are anti-semitic... because I just told you. I should not be able to shake that anti-semite labelling because i'm the one who is wearing it on my chest. Personally, I don't care what your views of Gays are. That has no impact on my life. And it really does not change any of my perceptions about who you are as a person. You are the one that defines your character to me. Good luck, sir.
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Hail, Hail!!!
my post to Hedonist pretty much sums me up so you and other here can lable me as you wish, no I will not accept the bigot jacket but if that's what you chose to call me that's fine this place is all about trying to convense others of their opinion but as for me....as I have said so many times "believe as you wish", you seem to be a straight forward guy and your definition of me seems to paralle my thoughts on homosexuality you don't aprove of bigotry and I don't aprove of homosexuality so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot, to me homosexuality is just something I don't want in my life but it does not mean I think the gay person is a bad person,they are who they are and I am not judging them for that but I don't want them or anybody else critizing me for my beliefs.
my post to Hedonist pretty much sums me up so you and other here can lable me as you wish, no I will not accept the bigot jacket but if that's what you chose to call me that's fine this place is all about trying to convense others of their opinion but as for me....as I have said so many times "believe as you wish", you seem to be a straight forward guy and your definition of me seems to paralle my thoughts on homosexuality you don't aprove of bigotry and I don't aprove of homosexuality so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot, to me homosexuality is just something I don't want in my life but it does not mean I think the gay person is a bad person,they are who they are and I am not judging them for that but I don't want them or anybody else critizing me for my beliefs.
Godfather.
... Look, sir... I am not labeling you. You are labeling yourself, by your own admissions. That is my point. If you are going to harbor certain viewpoint close to heart, the viewpoint defines who you are. The same way I would have to own the fact that I am an anti-semite... if I hold anti-semetic feelings, right? It is not a matter of me... or anyone else 'calling you names'... you are telling us who/what you are. That's all I'm saying, sir. I don't care how you feel about Gay people... one way or the other. If you possess, retain and defend those feelings... you should accept them as part of who and what you are. We should ALL accept our beliefs and feelings that we hold true as the character of our being.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
my post to Hedonist pretty much sums me up so you and other here can lable me as you wish, no I will not accept the bigot jacket but if that's what you chose to call me that's fine this place is all about trying to convense others of their opinion but as for me....as I have said so many times "believe as you wish", you seem to be a straight forward guy and your definition of me seems to paralle my thoughts on homosexuality you don't aprove of bigotry and I don't aprove of homosexuality so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot, to me homosexuality is just something I don't want in my life but it does not mean I think the gay person is a bad person,they are who they are and I am not judging them for that but I don't want them or anybody else critizing me for my beliefs.
Godfather.
... Look, sir... I am not labeling you. You are labeling yourself, by your own admissions. That is my point. If you are going to harbor certain viewpoint close to heart, the viewpoint defines who you are. The same way I would have to own the fact that I am an anti-semite... if I hold anti-semetic feelings, right? It is not a matter of me... or anyone else 'calling you names'... you are telling us who/what you are. That's all I'm saying, sir. I don't care how you feel about Gay people... one way or the other. If you possess, retain and defend those feelings... you should accept them as part of who and what you are. We should ALL accept our beliefs and feelings that we hold true as the character of our being.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Wouldn't bother me in the least. I'd be polite and let dude know I like girls, okay one particular girl. And my dad, brothers, friends wouldn't bat an eye. Not a big deal.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Its happened to me as well on more then one occasion. Its not hard to say thanks but no thanks.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Not that you're addressing me but there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Such a proposal is a compliment. Take it with a smile while you can get it. The compliment, that is, not the proposal. Unless you want to, of course. In that case, saddle up, Godfather. You cowboy, you.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
... Actually, sir... something like that has happened to me... execpt my dad wasn't there. I was asked to dance at one of those rave type clubs by some dude. I mean, i can't blame him... i'm quite a handsome man, you know? I just told the guy that I wasn't his type and he went away. No big deal to me... just some dude looking to get laid, i suppose.
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Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Not that you're addressing me but there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Such a proposal is a compliment. Take it with a smile while you can get it. The compliment, that is, not the proposal. Unless you want to, of course. In that case, saddle up, Godfather. You cowboy, you.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Not that you're addressing me but there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Such a proposal is a compliment. Take it with a smile while you can get it. The compliment, that is, not the proposal. Unless you want to, of course. In that case, saddle up, Godfather. You cowboy, you.
... Actually, sir... something like that has happened to me... execpt my dad wasn't there. I was asked to dance at one of those rave type clubs by some dude. I mean, i can't blame him... i'm quite a handsome man, you know? I just told the guy that I wasn't his type and he went away. No big deal to me... just some dude looking to get laid, i suppose.
Me too! Late 80s at the Rage. Chick asked me to dance, I'm not big on dancing and told her so (nicely), and she tried to DRAG me onto the floor.
In the end, it doesn't even come down to tolerance (not a fan of that word) but - again - live and let live in peace - yours and everyone else's.
(being honest with oneself doesn't hurt either)
With all the fucked up shit that's going on in this world, people of the same sex wanting to hook up or marry or anything else straight folks do every day shouldn't be an issue.
By the way, GF, this isn't an attempt at convincing or converting. Sharing our views, not just the feel-good ones, opens the door to discussion, sometimes to criticism, sometimes to judgment. Sometimes, even learning a thing or two.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Not that you're addressing me but there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Such a proposal is a compliment. Take it with a smile while you can get it. The compliment, that is, not the proposal. Unless you want to, of course. In that case, saddle up, Godfather. You cowboy, you.
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
Not that you're addressing me but there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Such a proposal is a compliment. Take it with a smile while you can get it. The compliment, that is, not the proposal. Unless you want to, of course. In that case, saddle up, Godfather. You cowboy, you.
you got me laughing so hard my cheeks hurt
)
Godfather.
Wait, your butt cheeks hurt from laughing soooooo HARD??? Are you sure it's from laughing there cowboy? ) It's ok GF, we won't judge......:))
This month gay marriage will have been legal for ten years here in Massachusetts. Life has gone on unabated. Ten years from now we won't even blink when learning an athlete is gay.
You're head is in the clouds. An 11 year old boy killed himself in Massachusettes in 2009. Other kids at his school targeted him and called him "gay" and he took his own life after he'd had enough. Life has simply not gone on unabated. Sorry, had to be the fact police. My opinion is the homosexual issues in society will never go away. You may think they are gone because you personally are accepting of others personal choices. But it's not reality, unfortunately. My heart cries for others still. I don't think it'll ever end. No way. When has the world ever agreed on the same values?
so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
No, you are by everyone's definition, a bigot.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
This month gay marriage will have been legal for ten years here in Massachusetts. Life has gone on unabated. Ten years from now we won't even blink when learning an athlete is gay.
You're head is in the clouds. An 11 year old boy killed himself in Massachusettes in 2009. Other kids at his school targeted him and called him "gay" and he took his own life after he'd had enough. Life has simply not gone on unabated. Sorry, had to be the fact police. My opinion is the homosexual issues in society will never go away. You may think they are gone because you personally are accepting of others personal choices. But it's not reality, unfortunately. My heart cries for others still. I don't think it'll ever end. No way. When has the world ever agreed on the same values?
Disagree. Being gay is becoming as normal as heterosexual exponentially quick. Oregon and ark. Just had defense of marriage acts overturned. More people are in favor than ever. Bottom line, the church is loosing the battle of Christians procreating to outnumber the Muslims and other evil doers. It's over. Be very interesting to watch Republican Party distance themselves from conservative social issues to survive. Will happen quick.
Disagree. Being gay is becoming as normal as heterosexual exponentially quick. Oregon and ark. Just had defense of marriage acts overturned. More people are in favor than ever. Bottom line, the church is loosing the battle of Christians procreating to outnumber the Muslims and other evil doers. It's over. Be very interesting to watch Republican Party distance themselves from conservative social issues to survive. Will happen quick.
How can you disagree with the facts I linked to? I was merely pointing out that JV said for the past 10 years in Mass. life (in regards to gays NOT being harmed) has gone on unabated. His words, not mine. Yet I pointed to the exact opposite and cited the facts and you disagreed. Unless you're disagreeing with the rest of my blabbering, which well.... shit... ya, that's exactly what you were doing. I get it now. My bad. I agree we are making strides in the right direction, but the teasing & harassing of the LGBT community will always be there and sometimes, to the point of murder or suicide. My point still stands: when has the whole human population ever agreed on a core value?
No doubt people are being persecuted and kiled for their sexuality and just now checked out your link. Was on bus earlier when I read your post. Think we're in agreement but I am more optimistic on rate of change and killings like these will go down and become much less frequent. Had father kill his daughter and her partner few months ago in Houston. Is despicable.
Also think (and Jimmy v can correct me) but feel he was saying the world didn't come to an end when Mass legalized 10 years ago not that all has been Rosey.
Duly noted: and No the world didn't come to an end. I don't think it will either, not in a literal sense, however for some people's lives... well? Yes... the world does end because of their sexual preference. I can't spin it any other way. Fuckin sad truth, my brothers and sisters. Sorry for making my posts seem so sad. I believe in hope!! But fuck... so many bad people out there. just ROTTEN assholes. Fuck em. Ok that's 75 cents in the swear jar for me.
those pic's you posted turn my gut but that's why you posted them
You might be surprised to find out that I don't give a shit and a half about you or your gut. I'll kiss whomever I want and if you don't like it, you can lick it.
I believe you will see the end of enough fan support in large enough numbers to do some damage to the teams and their media support
Ok so you're saying that the only reason people enjoy football is that they don't have to see gay people? So why don't they just go to church? I mean... I figured that they went because they enjoyed the game. You seem to think it's because they were taking refuge from those mean homosexuals.
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But didn't YOU call all us Muslims terrorists??? I could've sworn u and I got into it before because of that. So when someone calls u a bigot or a racist, it's because YOURE views come across as that.
Am I the only one who thinks someone else wrote what GF wrote here? Doesn't have his usual grammar and fuck ups in it )
are you nuckin futs ? ) now do you see me in this post ?
Godfather.
I agree with this, GF, though it might behoove you to (re?)read the recent post from Thirty. Sound advice given without condescension.
I've read posts of yours touching upon your son and other life experiences, and they don't reflect a heartless man. I'm not looking to change your mind - got neither the energy nor desire to do so - but hopefully you can try to see things from a different view.
Even if you don't succeed, at least you made the effort.
(and that goes for us all)
were you born into muslam or did you convert ? where you born and raised muslim in America or were you born in the middle east and came to America ? I'm guessing you where born here or at least raised here because your english (in words) seems good, what is the punishment for gay people in the middle east ? you seem to talk about the pain and suffering of gay's and blacks in America but what about YOUR place loyalty and it's views on gays ? is it much different than America ? or the penality for rape with 4 witness's or the womans punishment if there are not 4 witness's to collaborate her story....or is all this why you or your family came to America to avoid thiese unfair law's ? what's it called shira law ? or something like that ? anyway thank you for proof reading my post BB.
Godfather.
I am who I am, I think most people are that way.
giving into anothers view or opinion just to make them feel better is the same as lieing to them and don't do that either,if you ask me my opinion I will give it and try not dis credit your feelings,the best I can do is be as honest as I can with you or anybody else but if somebody makes personal attacks at me I will also act in kind (yes I know that's wrong)
Godfather.
That's a pretty good summation, sir.
When you talk about "Living and Letting others Live"... that is a good proposition. But, I hope you understand that you must also abide to that concept, too... right? I mean, if you do possess certain view points that are bigoted and express opinions based upon those bigoted views... you have to own them. You should not take offense if people call you a bigot because you are the one living the bigoted life. You live your life... and you let others live theirs... which includes them having certain opposing opinions about your views on life.
Think of it like this... If I were to say something like, "I would never marry a Jew... there's just something about them that I don't like"... I could not follow that statement with, "But.. I'm not an Anti-Semite", because that makes no sense, right? By my mere expression, I am pinning the Anti-Semite label on myself... you are not tagging me with it. You'd be able to tell me that my views are anti-semitic... because I just told you. I should not be able to shake that anti-semite labelling because i'm the one who is wearing it on my chest.
Personally, I don't care what your views of Gays are. That has no impact on my life. And it really does not change any of my perceptions about who you are as a person. You are the one that defines your character to me.
Good luck, sir.
Hail, Hail!!!
this place is all about trying to convense others of their opinion but as for me....as I have said so many times "believe as you wish", you seem to be a straight forward guy and your definition of me seems to paralle my thoughts on homosexuality you don't aprove of bigotry and I don't aprove of homosexuality so I guess by your definition you believe I am a bigot,
to me homosexuality is just something I don't want in my life but it does not mean I think the gay person is a bad person,they are who they are and I am not judging them for that but I don't want them or anybody else critizing me for my beliefs.
Godfather.
Look, sir... I am not labeling you. You are labeling yourself, by your own admissions. That is my point. If you are going to harbor certain viewpoint close to heart, the viewpoint defines who you are. The same way I would have to own the fact that I am an anti-semite... if I hold anti-semetic feelings, right? It is not a matter of me... or anyone else 'calling you names'... you are telling us who/what you are.
That's all I'm saying, sir. I don't care how you feel about Gay people... one way or the other. If you possess, retain and defend those feelings... you should accept them as part of who and what you are. We should ALL accept our beliefs and feelings that we hold true as the character of our being.
Hail, Hail!!!
Godfather.
Godfather.
) I just thought of something...you are in a crowded place and another man asked you very sudicitively "would you like to come home with me ?" and just then your father brother best friend looked at you waiting for an answer to this gay man's proposle, how would you react ? and I'm not waiting to hear the truth from you but I'd still bet you'd be pretty embrassed ......you...you BIGOT ! )
Godfather.
It's happened.
Godfather.
Actually, sir... something like that has happened to me... execpt my dad wasn't there.
I was asked to dance at one of those rave type clubs by some dude. I mean, i can't blame him... i'm quite a handsome man, you know? I just told the guy that I wasn't his type and he went away. No big deal to me... just some dude looking to get laid, i suppose.
Hail, Hail!!!
you got me laughing so hard my cheeks hurt
)
Godfather.
In the end, it doesn't even come down to tolerance (not a fan of that word) but - again - live and let live in peace - yours and everyone else's.
(being honest with oneself doesn't hurt either)
With all the fucked up shit that's going on in this world, people of the same sex wanting to hook up or marry or anything else straight folks do every day shouldn't be an issue.
By the way, GF, this isn't an attempt at convincing or converting. Sharing our views, not just the feel-good ones, opens the door to discussion, sometimes to criticism, sometimes to judgment. Sometimes, even learning a thing or two.
It's ok GF, we won't judge......:))
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2010 WATCH IT GO TO FIRE!!
2010 WATCH IT GO TO FIRE!!
No doubt people are being persecuted and kiled for their sexuality and just now checked out your link. Was on bus earlier when I read your post. Think we're in agreement but I am more optimistic on rate of change and killings like these will go down and become much less frequent. Had father kill his daughter and her partner few months ago in Houston. Is despicable.
Also think (and Jimmy v can correct me) but feel he was saying the world didn't come to an end when Mass legalized 10 years ago not that all has been Rosey.
2010 WATCH IT GO TO FIRE!!
Cool. I'll write it down on a little piece of paper with the rest of your opinions, wipe my dog's butt with it and we can all be happy.