Anyone Ever Experience Anything Paranormal?

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  • jmuscatello
    jmuscatello Colorado Posts: 332
    edited April 2014
    getting lectured really does suck, those responses to Chadwick seemed a bit much
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  • OMGkatwoman
    OMGkatwoman Posts: 3,230
    jmuscatello said:

    getting lectured really does suck, those responses to Chadwick seemed a bit much

    "those responses to Chadwick seemed a bit much" is an understatement
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited April 2014
    thanks, jmuscatello & omgkatwoman

    but it's ok over here. you two have a pleasant night. one thing may be true, i'd probably be getting burned at the stake w/ the likes of (insert whatever words you like here) folks running the show. i'd say that is quite narrowed down thinking. limited not expansive, that's a good way to live i'm sure

    goodnight
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    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited April 2014
    PJ_Soul said:

    I think that EVERYTHING supernatural is actually just "natural". We simply haven't figured it out yet. And inevitably figures it out? Scientists. They're not ready for it yet and it might not be scientifically possible for them yet, and it might not be in the next 100 or 1000 or 5000 years, or maybe never. But that doesn't mean there isn't a scientific explanation behind it - EVERYTHING has a scientific explanation IMO. But for me, that idea doesn't take away the intrigue at all. If anything, it enhances it!

    I completely agree. But I think it's hard for science to explain peoples imaginations. It seems that some people look to the supernatural or God when they can't explain an experience.

    Since I have never had a paranormal experience, according to some here, I am "close minded" and "not aware of the full picture".

    I think some here really don't understand how science works. Science is always open and always pushing forward. Looking for answers. But only answers backed by evidence. If your answer is science will never understand this, then I have to put you into the bible thumper lot. Same thing.

    This topic has a lot of parallels with the Evolution vs. Creation debate. I think Pingfah hit the nail on the head when he made the God/Ghost comparison. Hard to talk about a subject when the fall-back position is "because the bible said so" and in the paranormal position "you are not open to it so you will never get it". Some weird circular logic.


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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    "Since I have never had a paranormal experience, according to some here, I am "close minded" and "not aware of the full picture"." - dignin

    just because you've never had a paranormal experience does not mean you are close minded or not aware of the full picture. your very own words & attitude on here about the subject lead some to believe you are close minded & not aware of the full picture. it is dismissed as, "imagination" as you say.

    is anything even sinking in what you are going in circles about?

    millions never see a ghost or have anything paranormal happen but they do not count the happenings as bullshit like you are doing, therefore, you are in the close minded section
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    edited April 2014
    PJ_Soul said:

    I think that EVERYTHING supernatural is actually just "natural". We simply haven't figured it out yet. And inevitably figures it out? Scientists. They're not ready for it yet and it might not be scientifically possible for them yet, and it might not be in the next 100 or 1000 or 5000 years, or maybe never. But that doesn't mean there isn't a scientific explanation behind it - EVERYTHING has a scientific explanation IMO. But for me, that idea doesn't take away the intrigue at all. If anything, it enhances it!

    +- a couple of things in your post, otherwise I agree.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    chadwick said:

    "Since I have never had a paranormal experience, according to some here, I am "close minded" and "not aware of the full picture"." - dignin

    just because you've never had a paranormal experience does not mean you are close minded or not aware of the full picture. your very own words & attitude on here about the subject lead some to believe you are close minded & not aware of the full picture. it is dismissed as, "imagination" as you say.

    is anything even sinking in what you are going in circles about?

    millions never see a ghost or have anything paranormal happen but they do not count the happenings as bullshit like you are doing, therefore, you are in the close minded section

    I'm an open book. Show me some proof and I will 100% believe in ghosts. If you can show me any evidence I will entertain the idea that they exist.

    If I showed you proof or evidence that they didn't exist would you do the same?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    I've experienced a few things that cannot be explained, that appear to be paranormal. For example, several years ago a friend and I both say a glowing red devil faced figure over a doorway and at the same time felt a light breeze through a room in an apartment with all windows closed. (I know, this sounds almost too cliched to be anything but a B grade movie story but that's what my friend and I experienced and how we both described it.) Paranormal? Perhaps. Easily explained by science or even everyday fact? Possible- I don't know. A set-up or a prank? Also possible. I can't go back and do a scientific study of it but it was and interesting experience, seemed very real to me and makes for a good story so I'm ok with it being a mystery. Do I claim to have had a paranormal experience? No, because I can neither prove nor disprove that what happened was paranormal. But it was interesting.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I wish this weren't a divide.

    I can think of one, maybe two, situations where rigidity would be a damn good thing (nyuk-nyuk).

    Here, most realms? Not so much. And now I've got a hankering for I'm Open.

    Was watching some old-ish Peter Gabriel just a bit ago, sweet footage of Solsbury Hill and this lyric struck me (insert "imagination" with general openness based on who the fuck knows? vs proof) -

    "I did not believe the information
    (I) just had to trust imagination"

    Plus Pete rode a fucking bicycle around the stage as he sang this! Worth digging up if anyone's inclined; the links I could find on my PC vs TV were prefaced by ads. I hate that shit.

    And I really like what Ms. Soul said earlier about super/natural.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    Your awesome Chad. I sincerely mean that.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    dignin said:

    chadwick said:

    "Since I have never had a paranormal experience, according to some here, I am "close minded" and "not aware of the full picture"." - dignin

    just because you've never had a paranormal experience does not mean you are close minded or not aware of the full picture. your very own words & attitude on here about the subject lead some to believe you are close minded & not aware of the full picture. it is dismissed as, "imagination" as you say.

    is anything even sinking in what you are going in circles about?

    millions never see a ghost or have anything paranormal happen but they do not count the happenings as bullshit like you are doing, therefore, you are in the close minded section

    I'm an open book. Show me some proof and I will 100% believe in ghosts. If you can show me any evidence I will entertain the idea that they exist.

    If I showed you proof or evidence that they didn't exist would you do the same?

    I think what there trying to tell you is, that because you are so close minded you will never see anything paranormal. You have to be open minded to the supernatural and try to except it, if you want it to except you.
    Ya feel?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Treyert14 said:

    dignin said:

    chadwick said:

    "Since I have never had a paranormal experience, according to some here, I am "close minded" and "not aware of the full picture"." - dignin

    just because you've never had a paranormal experience does not mean you are close minded or not aware of the full picture. your very own words & attitude on here about the subject lead some to believe you are close minded & not aware of the full picture. it is dismissed as, "imagination" as you say.

    is anything even sinking in what you are going in circles about?

    millions never see a ghost or have anything paranormal happen but they do not count the happenings as bullshit like you are doing, therefore, you are in the close minded section

    I'm an open book. Show me some proof and I will 100% believe in ghosts. If you can show me any evidence I will entertain the idea that they exist.

    If I showed you proof or evidence that they didn't exist would you do the same?

    I think what there trying to tell you is, that because you are so close minded you will never see anything paranormal. You have to be open minded to the supernatural and try to except it, if you want it to except you.
    Ya feel?
    No, I don't feel. Seems like we are back to circular logic.



  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The problem I have with this thread is the anti-science tone it seems to have taken. Very troubling and indicative of the direction our society is going. Science is fine when it works within my belief system, but not fine when it doesn't. Sorry guys, that's not how it works.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    well guess what... this subject has avoided explaination for countless ages & i myself see no signs of science catching up to the mystical laws of the universe or even the ones sailing about this planet. science understands what, maybe a few percentage points of the oceans' vast expanse?

    mankind destroys life, life it can & can not see. idiots truly. your little scientists with their science projects are going to have to do a great deal of work within themselves before any keys will ever be given out. it just isn't ever going to happen like you expect it too. you may as well go take a nap or something
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • OMGkatwoman
    OMGkatwoman Posts: 3,230

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2012/07/20/brilliant-scientists-are-open-minded-about-paranormal-stuff-so-why-not-you/


    Not all scientists believe this is nonsense. Fear of ridicule ,much like what's going on here, is IMO holding back any substantial gain in this field.

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    that is a wonderful article. thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • jmuscatello
    jmuscatello Colorado Posts: 332
    edited April 2014
    hedonist said:

    I wouldn't necessarily call it paranormal, but this brought about some odd feelings and thoughts - not bad ones, just...odd. Unfamiliar.

    So last Thursday was the three-year anniversary of my mother-in-law's death. My husband woke up sick, and also had an important (unrelated) decision to make that day. He and his mom were pretty tight, and like me - I guess like many of us - feels her, mentally talks to her, thinks of the advice she'd give him were she still alive.

    (he made the right decision, by the way)

    Later that day, at pretty close to the time my MIL died, my mom was in a bad accident. She's in her 80s (her still driving at her age is another discussion altogether), her car was totaled, she could've died. Aside from many cuts and bruises, she's OK.

    She's alive.

    She's also convinced my MIL's spirit protected her in that time.

    Me, I find it touching and not impossible - they never even met - but...I just don't know.

    Also, the next morning, one of my NY cousins phoned my mom after having a dream the previous night that she "wasn't doing well".

    Hope your mom is okay after the accident - traumatic for anyone, but when in your 80s, very rough.
    And yes, odd... her thought that your MIL's spirit was there protecting her. And also odd, the cousin's dream... I just read the Scientific American article OMGKatwoman posted (agreed, liked that article!) and there's a reference to some believing "psi" occurs mainly under conditions of strong emotion and stress. Even though we don't understand why or how that could happen, to me it's natural to wonder about it.

    wow really botched the block quotes didn't I
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    yes... hope your mom is doing well, hedonist
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/bh20cV95R2Q
    a short video with freeman dyson
    i really liked 9:25 on....
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thank you both!

    (I botch quotes all the time :D )

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