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  • ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674

    ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..

    I don't know what they will or won't bring in or fix. They very well may let us delete things posted to our walls, or shut that whole feature down, or not. Who knows? .... No, I don't think you will get your friends list or PMs back.... So now what? I totally understand why you're pissed off Dimitris, but what exactly are you looking for at this point? They have obviously seen your complaints. I think they are still working on the site and we will continue to see some improvements. Will it go back to what it was? No. That's been made clear. Will the loss and inconvenience that some have dealt with be reversed? No. So.... it's either wait and be patient and see what it becomes, and get over what was lost, or never come to the forum again. It's your and everyone's choice. I personally think abandoning the boards is an overreaction, especially when they are clearly slowly making improvements, even if people are mad about the PMs and shit. You know I'm not happy about any of this either, but I frankly don't have the negative emotional energy to stay pissed off about it indefinitely.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..

    I don't know what they will or won't bring in or fix. They very well may let us delete things posted to our walls, or shut that whole feature down, or not. Who knows? .... No, I don't think you will get your friends list or PMs back.... So now what? I totally understand why you're pissed off Dimitris, but what exactly are you looking for at this point? They have obviously seen your complaints. I think they are still working on the site and we will continue to see some improvements. Will it go back to what it was? No. That's been made clear. Will the loss and inconvenience that some have dealt with be reversed? No. So.... it's either wait and be patient and see what it becomes, and get over what was lost, or never come to the forum again. It's your and everyone's choice. I personally think abandoning the boards is an overreaction, especially when they are clearly slowly making improvements, even if people are mad about the PMs and shit. You know I'm not happy about any of this either, but I frankly don't have the negative emotional energy to stay pissed off about it indefinitely.
    yep..all the good things we lost,gone,i suck it already..
    atleast i hope they can fix the white thing so all can read easy and no need to be at IT guy to fix things,or need to google to find solution for this hard to read thing..
    what pisses my off the last days is that i see from comments they made this work for specific way to be here,mobiles or browzers,and the rest ,pray for the best...
    not to mention..adroid app version coming soon,its a promise...
    they could fix that first you know.before they make once again,something works better only and for iphones
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674

    PJ_Soul said:

    ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..

    I don't know what they will or won't bring in or fix. They very well may let us delete things posted to our walls, or shut that whole feature down, or not. Who knows? .... No, I don't think you will get your friends list or PMs back.... So now what? I totally understand why you're pissed off Dimitris, but what exactly are you looking for at this point? They have obviously seen your complaints. I think they are still working on the site and we will continue to see some improvements. Will it go back to what it was? No. That's been made clear. Will the loss and inconvenience that some have dealt with be reversed? No. So.... it's either wait and be patient and see what it becomes, and get over what was lost, or never come to the forum again. It's your and everyone's choice. I personally think abandoning the boards is an overreaction, especially when they are clearly slowly making improvements, even if people are mad about the PMs and shit. You know I'm not happy about any of this either, but I frankly don't have the negative emotional energy to stay pissed off about it indefinitely.
    yep..all the good things we lost,gone,i suck it already..
    atleast i hope they can fix the white thing so all can read easy and no need to be at IT guy to fix things,or need to google to find solution for this hard to read thing..
    what pisses my off the last days is that i see from comments they made this work for specific way to be here,mobiles or browzers,and the rest ,pray for the best...
    not to mention..adroid app version coming soon,its a promise...
    they could fix that first you know.before they make once again,something works better only and for iphones
    If they don't change the background at some point I'll be disappointed.
    I find that the forum works really well on my Android now as far as posting goes. It was HORRIBLE before. There are a lot of features and info missing from the Android view, but since posting was so insanely frustrating before, I prefer it now anyway. I do hope they get back some of the info missing on that view though, like who posted a thread or who the last replier was.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RD101189
    RD101189 Posts: 454
    I'm really surprised that 10C sees this as some improvement when I don't see anything improved but instead I lose the left most part of the forum and the fonts are really small. This is like a weaker version of what we used to have. Sorry to complain 10C but not seeing any improvements over the last forum.
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..

    I don't know what they will or won't bring in or fix. They very well may let us delete things posted to our walls, or shut that whole feature down, or not. Who knows? .... No, I don't think you will get your friends list or PMs back.... So now what? I totally understand why you're pissed off Dimitris, but what exactly are you looking for at this point? They have obviously seen your complaints. I think they are still working on the site and we will continue to see some improvements. Will it go back to what it was? No. That's been made clear. Will the loss and inconvenience that some have dealt with be reversed? No. So.... it's either wait and be patient and see what it becomes, and get over what was lost, or never come to the forum again. It's your and everyone's choice. I personally think abandoning the boards is an overreaction, especially when they are clearly slowly making improvements, even if people are mad about the PMs and shit. You know I'm not happy about any of this either, but I frankly don't have the negative emotional energy to stay pissed off about it indefinitely.
    yep..all the good things we lost,gone,i suck it already..
    atleast i hope they can fix the white thing so all can read easy and no need to be at IT guy to fix things,or need to google to find solution for this hard to read thing..
    what pisses my off the last days is that i see from comments they made this work for specific way to be here,mobiles or browzers,and the rest ,pray for the best...
    not to mention..adroid app version coming soon,its a promise...
    they could fix that first you know.before they make once again,something works better only and for iphones
    If they don't change the background at some point I'll be disappointed.
    I find that the forum works really well on my Android now as far as posting goes. It was HORRIBLE before. There are a lot of features and info missing from the Android view, but since posting was so insanely frustrating before, I prefer it now anyway. I do hope they get back some of the info missing on that view though, like who posted a thread or who the last replier was.

    now u said that,i find with my adroid the opposite happens at twitter..twitter is away better at mobile..at pc isnt worth it..u miss so many things..
    here in the forum,at mobile u need to have NOT the full size of the forum,so works better
    but you lose so many things with Not the full size..
    but if u put the full size,then all are so tiny..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited January 2014
    RD101189 said:

    I'm really surprised that 10C sees this as some improvement when I don't see anything improved but instead I lose the left most part of the forum and the fonts are really small. This is like a weaker version of what we used to have. Sorry to complain 10C but not seeing any improvements over the last forum.

    Am I the only one for whom the font size is fixed for the PC?? It's totally normal for me now, and I didn't do anything to fix it.

    I am definitely confused by the decision to change the forum when there was nothing wrong with it before and this new one is worse. Very strange decision-making going on down at the warehouse for sure. But fuck, nothing I can do about it except suggest things that would improve it and try to settle in. I'm not going to ditch the forum - it's just not THAT bad.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,135
    jeffbr said:

    I honestly wouldnt expect a fan club website for a band to announce they plan on changing the website.

    I would expect any board I frequent to announce big changes to the community before they take place. It is simply common courtesy. It doesn't matter if it is a paid board or a free board, it is the members that makes a particular board a success or a failure. I do and have frequented many boards, and this is the ONLY place I go where the users/members are thought so little of that no communication was made, and that lack of communication continues even after they know that people want to hear from them.
    Thats fair enough, like i said i dont visit other forums so i guess thats why i dont expect any communication.

    I just think I never get communication when facebook, twitter or ebay change the format and that doesnt bother me in the slightest, so why would I for a bands message board.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ok,seriously..what we waititng to change??so be better??
    i dont see the lost data to come back..so bye bye pms,bye bye friend list,bye bye outbox-sent message..
    the activity gossip shit???no way..this new forum build on the notification thing,so activity is connected with that..
    block someone to write on your wall??not see happens,maybe can add delete option..
    maybe the 10c can help those lost their username??i dont see it happen,they start all over again..maybe they can help the ones wait for solution and didnt change their usernames already..
    maybe they can help the ones cant log in..seerms this is possible
    and what left??to make the forum easy to read with that staring in the sun white thing..
    maybe they can add something fancy ,like open new thread and smell like flower in your room..
    thats all folks..

    I don't know what they will or won't bring in or fix. They very well may let us delete things posted to our walls, or shut that whole feature down, or not. Who knows? .... No, I don't think you will get your friends list or PMs back.... So now what? I totally understand why you're pissed off Dimitris, but what exactly are you looking for at this point? They have obviously seen your complaints. I think they are still working on the site and we will continue to see some improvements. Will it go back to what it was? No. That's been made clear. Will the loss and inconvenience that some have dealt with be reversed? No. So.... it's either wait and be patient and see what it becomes, and get over what was lost, or never come to the forum again. It's your and everyone's choice. I personally think abandoning the boards is an overreaction, especially when they are clearly slowly making improvements, even if people are mad about the PMs and shit. You know I'm not happy about any of this either, but I frankly don't have the negative emotional energy to stay pissed off about it indefinitely.
    yep..all the good things we lost,gone,i suck it already..
    atleast i hope they can fix the white thing so all can read easy and no need to be at IT guy to fix things,or need to google to find solution for this hard to read thing..
    what pisses my off the last days is that i see from comments they made this work for specific way to be here,mobiles or browzers,and the rest ,pray for the best...
    not to mention..adroid app version coming soon,its a promise...
    they could fix that first you know.before they make once again,something works better only and for iphones
    If they don't change the background at some point I'll be disappointed.
    I find that the forum works really well on my Android now as far as posting goes. It was HORRIBLE before. There are a lot of features and info missing from the Android view, but since posting was so insanely frustrating before, I prefer it now anyway. I do hope they get back some of the info missing on that view though, like who posted a thread or who the last replier was.

    now u said that,i find with my adroid the opposite happens at twitter..twitter is away better at mobile..at pc isnt worth it..u miss so many things..
    here in the forum,at mobile u need to have NOT the full size of the forum,so works better
    but you lose so many things with Not the full size..
    but if u put the full size,then all are so tiny..
    True. The full site on the phone is too small to use. The mobile version is over-simplified. But now I can post something in a normal amount of time. It used to take me a couple of minutes just to post one sentence replies!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • I mostly use the forum on my laptop and have found the following to help with reading the forum (I'm on a Mac using Safari, but it might be doable on other browsers)
    Go to View>Customize Toolbar
    Drag the zoom icons to your toolbar.
    Next time you get to the forum, just press the larger A and the type will get to a readable size.

    Not much about the background, but my eyes don't hurt as much.

    I hope this helps.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    My guess (and that's all it is and all it's worth) is that the change was driven by the desire for simplicity and "sameness" in both maintenance and look/feel across multiple platforms. Probably the new engine they are using works better across platforms than the prior bulletin board engine. Perhaps it was a full turnkey solution complete with Android/iOS/IE/Mozilla templates that mostly just require deployment. I'm not saying they SHOULD have done this, I am just rationalizing as to perhaps why. What we see and what needs to be done on the back end in terms of maintaining things are obviously different, so I'm sure the new forums provides advantages in that regard as well.

    But the one thing I dont understand is the "white" comments...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited January 2014
    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes. Maybe we should be screaming for them to get rid of that fucking turquoise colour instead.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    PJ_Soul said:

    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes.

    Admittedly, I'm looking through eyeglasses with anti glare, so that no doubt artificially dulls all the colors I see. It just doesnt seem all that bright, so I was truly asking.
  • PJ_Soul said:

    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes.

    I also think that the deisgn is a lot busier, not just with the blue, but with such a busy sidebar. We don't really need to see how many comments/threads each forum has.
    Such a big header for each comment instead of the avatar to the right distracts the reader from the important thing, the message.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    Honestly, the bar on the left is useless because it scrolls. If it stayed still while the rest of the page scrolled I think it would have more utility.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674

    PJ_Soul said:

    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes.

    I also think that the deisgn is a lot busier, not just with the blue, but with such a busy sidebar. We don't really need to see how many comments/threads each forum has.
    Such a big header for each comment instead of the avatar to the right distracts the reader from the important thing, the message.
    And that (crazy blue) sidebar always being there sucks. I hate that. There is no need for it within the threads.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,135
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes.

    I also think that the deisgn is a lot busier, not just with the blue, but with such a busy sidebar. We don't really need to see how many comments/threads each forum has.
    Such a big header for each comment instead of the avatar to the right distracts the reader from the important thing, the message.
    And that (crazy blue) sidebar always being there sucks. I hate that. There is no need for it within the threads.
    See, i actually like that, find it useful to click into a thread and can easily go to another forum. I dont care about online users but the different forums i like
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I think it's that blazing blue ON white that is hurting our eyes.

    I also think that the deisgn is a lot busier, not just with the blue, but with such a busy sidebar. We don't really need to see how many comments/threads each forum has.
    Such a big header for each comment instead of the avatar to the right distracts the reader from the important thing, the message.
    And that (crazy blue) sidebar always being there sucks. I hate that. There is no need for it within the threads.
    See, i actually like that, find it useful to click into a thread and can easily go to another forum. I dont care about online users but the different forums i like
    Fair enough... it it were a different colour that didn't scream at me I might feel differently about it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    PJ_Soul said:



    Am I the only one for whom the font size is fixed for the PC?? It's totally normal for me now, and I didn't do anything to fix it.

    I am definitely confused by the decision to change the forum when there was nothing wrong with it before and this new one is worse. Very strange decision-making going on down at the warehouse for sure. But fuck, nothing I can do about it except suggest things that would improve it and try to settle in. I'm not going to ditch the forum - it's just not THAT bad.

    On my PC, the font is still so tiny that I have to come closer to the screen to read properly. It looks like a 8 pt font. On my facebook, it looks more like a 10 or 11 pt font size. Maybe I should clear my cache ...

  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    Nope, clearing the cache didn't help. It's still the same size, and too small...