Dear PJ, don´t be lazy in Europe

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  • Metro McD
    Metro McD Posts: 11
    3hours +
    That's the Point. They Never played 3hours in Europe.
    But I Hope 2014 they will give us those Shows...
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Metro McD wrote:
    3hours +
    That's the Point. They Never played 3hours in Europe.
    But I Hope 2014 they will give us those Shows...
    That was not your point in your original post. Your original post called Pearl Jam lazy because they played less songs in Europe last year than they did in US this year. Those are two very different things. You should fix your original post.
  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    Suziemay wrote:
    dmaradona10 wrote:
    Is...is this a joke?? :corn:
    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm dead serious about insert my hometown here being the center of the universe.

    :roll:

    funny... i know plenty of people in my hometown that would say the same thing... that doesn't make it true... :lol:
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    shep wrote:
    Suziemay wrote:
    dmaradona10 wrote:
    Is...is this a joke?? :corn:
    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm dead serious about insert my hometown here being the center of the universe.

    :roll:

    funny... i know plenty of people in my hometown that would say the same thing... that doesn't make it true... :lol:
    You're no fun.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,423
    Hoping for under 20 songs, but 10-15 minute versions.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Metro McD wrote:
    US 2013: 32 - 37 Songs per Show
    EU 2012: 25 - 30 Songs per Show
    ????????

    Would you please give us for the same Ticket Prices the same duration in Europe?
    Thank you!
    This is a serious request?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    UKpearljammer wrote:
    Metro McD wrote:
    US 2013: 32 - 37 Songs per Show
    EU 2012: 25 - 30 Songs per Show
    ????????

    Would you please give us for the same Ticket Prices the same duration in Europe?
    Thank you!

    Weren't some of the US 2013 shows 'A night with Pearl Jam' with no support? I heard Leeds is, so I'd expect 32-37 songs ish, however I'd expect festival shows to be more like the 2012 Euro tour.
    Yeah, but that didn't make a difference. The shows with an opener were just as long (i.e. 36 songs, 3 hours 15 minutes in Vancouver, with Mudhoney as an opener).
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  • CharlieP
    CharlieP Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,035
    I´ve never understood why longer is neccesarily better.

    I´d much rather have a tight 28 song set than a sloppy 36 set, draining the audience completely as well.

    Saw Springsteen last year.
    And although he was good he just went on for too long. 3 hours +
    You barely couldn´t stand afterwards and had no energy for the final 40 mins (or so) of the show.
    Just my 2 cents

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  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,091
    CharlieP wrote:
    I´ve never understood why longer is neccesarily better.

    I´d much rather have a tight 28 song set than a sloppy 36 set, draining the audience completely as well.

    Saw Springsteen last year.
    And although he was good he just went on for too long. 3 hours +
    You barely couldn´t stand afterwards and had no energy for the final 40 mins (or so) of the show.
    Just my 2 cents

    3 hours only, that is a short Bruce show. I once stood for over six hours, including 40 minute preset and 4 hours 6 min show :)
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Dear PJ, Please play Hong Kong just once. Play as many songs as you like.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    so,if eddie start talking to amsterdam about bikes like 1 hour and 10 minutes and and the show goes 4 hours,is all ok then?
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    this thread must have been a joke, he just missed the little winky man
  • CharlieP
    CharlieP Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,035
    mrk2 wrote:
    CharlieP wrote:
    I´ve never understood why longer is neccesarily better.

    I´d much rather have a tight 28 song set than a sloppy 36 set, draining the audience completely as well.

    Saw Springsteen last year.
    And although he was good he just went on for too long. 3 hours +
    You barely couldn´t stand afterwards and had no energy for the final 40 mins (or so) of the show.
    Just my 2 cents

    3 hours only, that is a short Bruce show. I once stood for over six hours, including 40 minute preset and 4 hours 6 min show :)

    Oh yeah I actually heard about that show in Finland! It was in the papers here in Denmark :D Legendary

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  • jumbojet
    jumbojet Posts: 1,484
    Dear PJ, please play short sets in Europe. Just cannot have any spare time for sightseeing and shopping, because of those sets. :lol::lol::lol:
    What's your part, who you are?

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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    Pingfah wrote:
    25 - 30 songs per show is still way more than most bands would play, I think deeming that "lazy" is exceptionally unfair.
    though most bands don't charge what they do (sorry still sore about the UK ticket prices).

    2 hours set in Europe (PJ I mean) is what we get.. since most places are very strict on curfew, generally 11pm (lots of venues are in the city centre and by-laws enforce it, and the ones outside centre people need to be able to catch public transport back, cars are less prevalent here), and since they don't start until 9 (assuming they're on time!), then they give themselves no leeway for longer sets.

    as for 'An evening with PJ', there's been shows billed like that before and it made no difference in the running time (sometimes didn't even mean no opening band).

    I'm not complaining, I've resigned myself to it, but that's certainly true.
    that said, in 2012 the shows might not have been particularly long but they kicked ass :D
  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    Suziemay wrote:
    shep wrote:
    Suziemay wrote:
    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm dead serious about insert my hometown here being the center of the universe.

    :roll:

    funny... i know plenty of people in my hometown that would say the same thing... that doesn't make it true... :lol:
    You're no fun.

    Sorry, I was at work when I replied...

    Rarely am I any fun at work ;)

    I live in pretty much the only city in the world that doesn't consider itself the center of the universe.... Houston. Pretty hard to have compassion for the rest of you ;)
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • Eraserhead
    Eraserhead Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2,980
    The Leeds show is listed as "An Evening With Pearl Jam" on the venue's website. :)
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    Eraserhead wrote:
    The Leeds show is listed as "An Evening With Pearl Jam" on the venue's website. :)
    :P
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    Eraserhead wrote:
    The Leeds show is listed as "An Evening With Pearl Jam" on the venue's website. :)

    that sounds just great,
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    pdalowsky wrote:
    Eraserhead wrote:
    The Leeds show is listed as "An Evening With Pearl Jam" on the venue's website. :)

    that sounds just great,
    I soooooo wanna go to Leeds :( :(

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