The GA pit was rocking sounded great show was intense. Why does every1 complain complain and complain weather it's bout numbers on hands or crowds bla bla bla, in the end that's ur opinion which you are entitled to but it don't make you right you just sound like a asshole. Literally get a reality check you are witnessing history and are a part of something bigger than you bigger than Seattle. Too many Debbie's in this club now.
If you hate seattle crowds so much stay home! We don't need you, we love Pearl Jam and Pearl Jam loves us and if you don't like how we do things in Seattle thats your problem not ours! Happy Holidays
THE INFLATED TICKET PRICES ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS..
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY OUTRAGEOUS PRICES FOR DECENT SEATS
ITS HARD TO BE ENERGETIC FROM BEHIND THE STAGE (this is where i was)
thank you for letting me vent
enjoyed the setlist for the 12/6 show
In Columbus, 2010, Ed joked about the band becoming an organized religion. (I think it was National Prayer Day.) The band could then enjoy all the perks/tax exemptions therein.
To that end, this discourse on Seattle crowds at Pearl Jam shows reminds me of a scripture verse (with apologies to the Seattle fans that bring great enthusiasm to every Pearl Jam show):
"And He said, 'Truly I say to you, no prophet is welcome in his hometown."
Luke 4:24
(This will be my last religious post of the night, I promise.)
This will be the last negative post I will choose to read. I'm not sure if I was at the same show...someone mentioned a "lame second encore". Wow...if eruption into yellow Ledbetter is lame then...never mind...if I have to explain it. Supersonic, anyone who realizes what the supersonics meant to this town (which is every person in seattle)!...review mirror, etc. Awesome show, sorry to hear the negativity towards our town. Expectations can be funny. 3 in a row from Singles was off the charts, that movie was based in Seattle so may not mean as much to out of towners. There's a reason the band lives in Seattle, a place where they can walk to the store and be treated like a normal person...
Bummer if the Seattle show was a let down...be careful labeling an entire city and loyal fans who think the world of this band. The people I knew and were around rocked out to a great show. It was the end of a long tour that included a blizzard days before. They were finally back home...comfortable and content, the way people should feel at home.
If you hate seattle crowds so much stay home! We don't need you, we love Pearl Jam and Pearl Jam loves us and if you don't like how we do things in Seattle thats your problem not ours!
Right you are, neighbor. An engaged, appreciative crowd can take many forms. Bugs me when a crowd is called lame because not everyone is pogoing and screaming. I really think some of the east coasters don't understand the west coast vibe.
I was behind the stage. Went on my own, but within 4 or 5 songs I had strangers arms around me, singing along every song, dancing, loving every minute. Nothing like a hometown show! Welcome back guys--- THANK YOU. See you around.
“Wind in my hair, I feel part of everywhere...
Late at night I hear the trees, they're singing with the dead...overhead...”
I honestly didn't think the Seattle crowd was that bad at all. I think what's lost in the Vancouver/Seattle conversation so far is the fact that for some reason there was way more GA space filled in Vancouver. I was in the lower bowl, and you couldn't even really see the demarcation point between GA and floor seats. Conversely in Seattle, there was like 10-15 feet of empty space between people in the GA and those in the floor seats. You can't really blame the fans for venues setting capacity limits. Those who were in Seattle GA seemed to have fists raised, and were dancing around throughout the show.
…There were so many people in Vancouver who were streaming to the exits after the first encore (literally hundreds), that I felt embarrassed for my hometown.
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1993-9-4 Vancouver
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2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
I've seen these guys play Seattle or nearby 12 times and I can confidently say the crowd Friday night was doing just fine. I was seated behind the stage off to Stones side and could see everyone in GA going nuts. I thought the folks in front of Mike were going to storm over the barriers. It wasn't quite the mosh pit days of the early 90s but this stuff about the Seattle crowd being lame Friday is nonsense.
From what I hear the people in GA didnt thaw out till the 2nd encore. I mean come on they were sitting out in 25 degree weather since 5 am.
Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.
For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?
Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.
Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.
It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.
Great post, scenario 2 sounds exactly like our experience in Portland. Arrived around 7:40, totally comfortable after a great dinner. Watched Mudhoney from random unoccupied lower bowl seats, and then for PJ was probably 15 feet on Mike's side, then moved over to see Stone and was only like 10 feet from the stage.
I'd just add one thing for scenario 1…GA fan has to somehow hold going to the bathroom for hours once on the rail!
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1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
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Great post, scenario 2 sounds exactly like our experience in Portland. Arrived around 7:40, totally comfortable after a great dinner. Watched Mudhoney from random unoccupied lower bowl seats, and then for PJ was probably 15 feet on Mike's side, then moved over to see Stone and was only like 10 feet from the stage.
I'd just add one thing for scenario 1…GA fan has to somehow hold going to the bathroom for hours once on the rail!
Great post, scenario 2 sounds exactly like our experience in Portland. Arrived around 7:40, totally comfortable after a great dinner. Watched Mudhoney from random unoccupied lower bowl seats, and then for PJ was probably 15 feet on Mike's side, then moved over to see Stone and was only like 10 feet from the stage.
I'd just add one thing for scenario 1…GA fan has to somehow hold going to the bathroom for hours once on the rail!
Fantastic idea for a Depends commercial!
Scene: Cut to the row of people on the rail in the middle of a PJ concert...everyone else is jumping and singing while the front row is all standing there taking turns going "ahhhhhh...these Depends are great!!"
Great post, scenario 2 sounds exactly like our experience in Portland. Arrived around 7:40, totally comfortable after a great dinner. Watched Mudhoney from random unoccupied lower bowl seats, and then for PJ was probably 15 feet on Mike's side, then moved over to see Stone and was only like 10 feet from the stage.
I'd just add one thing for scenario 1…GA fan has to somehow hold going to the bathroom for hours once on the rail!
Fantastic idea for a Depends commercial!
Scene: Cut to the row of people on the rail in the middle of a PJ concert...everyone else is jumping And singing while the front row is all standing there taking turns going "ahhhhhh"
... and then high fiving each other and giving a thumbs up to the camera while saying, "Thanks to Depends, I never miss Even Flow for another flow!"
From what I hear the people in GA didnt thaw out till the 2nd encore. I mean come on they were sitting out in 25 degree weather since 5 am.
Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.
For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?
Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.
Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.
It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.
totally agree with you bud. I walked in to ga at 8:15 at brooklyn 1 and was about 8 people deep in front of ed. i could have wiggled my way up further but I really didn't need ed staring into my eyes to make the night. i enjoyed hanging with my friends all day, drinking beer and just relaxing before teh show.
I guarantee some poor bastard was bursting at the seams or a fraction from shitting their pants.
"Oh shit. Oh shit. I gotta sneeze!"
LOL
I was sitting 2nd row up on the wings Stone's side right in front of the 'special guest and his friends'. I don't understand these threads..I was rockin' out and going nuts...people in front and all around me were going nuts, GA folks looked on fire especially in front on Mike's side....when the lights came on the ENTIRE ARENA from floor all the way to the roof was on their feet going nuts....during porch and alive the arena went crazy....during better man everyone was going crazy....and more and more....I don't get all this hate this show is getting...it was one of the best sets and shows of the tour...the band was on fire and full of energy and the crows was not bad from my point of view...it's frustrating that this band gets taken for granted and some feel so ENTITLED....just enjoy the show, the band, the fans, the experience....I am still numb and so glad I was able to come all the way to the opposite coast for this....thanks for reading.
I wish I was an alien at home behind the sun..... I wanna race..with the sundown..I want a last breath..I don't let out...
From what I hear the people in GA didnt thaw out till the 2nd encore. I mean come on they were sitting out in 25 degree weather since 5 am.
Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.
For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?
Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.
Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.
It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.
totally agree with you bud. I walked in to ga at 8:15 at brooklyn 1 and was about 8 people deep in front of ed. i could have wiggled my way up further but I really didn't need ed staring into my eyes to make the night. i enjoyed hanging with my friends all day, drinking beer and just relaxing before teh show.
Sounds like there are more than a few Scenario 2 types!
Each to their own I guess, but my evening in Vancouver couldn't have been better in Vancouver- I really feel we did it right!
I guarantee some poor bastard was bursting at the seams or a fraction from shitting their pants.
"Oh shit. Oh shit. I gotta sneeze!"
LOL
I was sitting 2nd row up on the wings Stone's side right in front of the 'special guest and his friends'. I don't understand these threads..I was rockin' out and going nuts...people in front and all around me were going nuts, GA folks looked on fire especially in front on Mike's side....when the lights came on the ENTIRE ARENA from floor all the way to the roof was on their feet going nuts....during porch and alive the arena went crazy....during better man everyone was going crazy....and more and more....I don't get all this hate this show is getting...it was one of the best sets and shows of the tour...the band was on fire and full of energy and the crows was not bad from my point of view...it's frustrating that this band gets taken for granted and some feel so ENTITLED....just enjoy the show, the band, the fans, the experience....I am still numb and so glad I was able to come all the way to the opposite coast for this....thanks for reading.
Honestly I was not at the Seattle show but I was at BKN 1, BKN 2, and Philly 2. I was showing my mom (not a PJ fan) the video of Eddie on the light during Porch in Seattle. She was saying I can't even hear the crowd and she was noticing how no one in the crowd was going nuts. She was like "I thought you said the crowd goes nuts". Then I showed her videos of Porch and Release from BKN and she was like wow thats a crowd. That's when you know people.... This band should have ended this tour in NY. MSG 2 might have been the greatest tour end ever and maybe the best show ever too.
Camden 2 (2008) Philly 1 and 4 (2009) Newark (2010) MSG 1 (2010) Toronto 1 and 2 (2011) Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013) Philly 2 (2013) Greenville (2016) Columbia (2016) MSG 2 (2016) Fenway 2 (2016) EV NJPAC (2022) MSG (2022) Denver (2022)
I was sitting 2nd row up on the wings Stone's side right in front of the 'special guest and his friends'. I don't understand these threads..I was rockin' out and going nuts...people in front and all around me were going nuts, GA folks looked on fire especially in front on Mike's side....when the lights came on the ENTIRE ARENA from floor all the way to the roof was on their feet going nuts....during porch and alive the arena went crazy....during better man everyone was going crazy....and more and more....I don't get all this hate this show is getting...it was one of the best sets and shows of the tour...the band was on fire and full of energy and the crows was not bad from my point of view...it's frustrating that this band gets taken for granted and some feel so ENTITLED....just enjoy the show, the band, the fans, the experience....I am still numb and so glad I was able to come all the way to the opposite coast for this....thanks for reading.
Word... I was 2nd off the GA rail by Mike/Jeff. The people behind the stage were often on their feet, and the few times I looked behind, usually during a killer song like Porch, the whole arena was going NUTS. I remember being impressed that even the seats in the back rafters were jumping around like maniacs. I mean... if I'm a dick for not crowd surfing during Nothingman or Crown of Thorns, so be it, but I have trouble believing that the opening poster was at the same show as I. And that "lame" 2nd encore... yeah... the crowd's lack of exuberance totally ruined it for Mike during Alive :roll: And Kim Thayil (who I spotted backstage and glanced at several times from the start of that encore) had to be dragged onstage because of how disappointed he was with things up to that point :roll:
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you have no room to say that he sounds like a broken record... shall I bump all ur Lightning Bolt hate threads?
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY OUTRAGEOUS PRICES FOR DECENT SEATS
ITS HARD TO BE ENERGETIC FROM BEHIND THE STAGE (this is where i was)
thank you for letting me vent
enjoyed the setlist for the 12/6 show
To that end, this discourse on Seattle crowds at Pearl Jam shows reminds me of a scripture verse (with apologies to the Seattle fans that bring great enthusiasm to every Pearl Jam show):
"And He said, 'Truly I say to you, no prophet is welcome in his hometown."
Luke 4:24
(This will be my last religious post of the night, I promise.)
Bummer if the Seattle show was a let down...be careful labeling an entire city and loyal fans who think the world of this band. The people I knew and were around rocked out to a great show. It was the end of a long tour that included a blizzard days before. They were finally back home...comfortable and content, the way people should feel at home.
Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.
Right you are, neighbor. An engaged, appreciative crowd can take many forms. Bugs me when a crowd is called lame because not everyone is pogoing and screaming. I really think some of the east coasters don't understand the west coast vibe.
I was behind the stage. Went on my own, but within 4 or 5 songs I had strangers arms around me, singing along every song, dancing, loving every minute. Nothing like a hometown show! Welcome back guys--- THANK YOU. See you around.
Late at night I hear the trees, they're singing with the dead...overhead...”
…There were so many people in Vancouver who were streaming to the exits after the first encore (literally hundreds), that I felt embarrassed for my hometown.
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Whose fault is that though? People are strange sometimes. Just a damn concert.
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For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?
Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.
Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.
It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.
I'd just add one thing for scenario 1…GA fan has to somehow hold going to the bathroom for hours once on the rail!
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Fantastic idea for a Depends commercial!
... and then high fiving each other and giving a thumbs up to the camera while saying, "Thanks to Depends, I never miss Even Flow for another flow!"
I guarantee some poor bastard was bursting at the seams or a fraction from shitting their pants.
"Oh shit. Oh shit. I gotta sneeze!"
totally agree with you bud. I walked in to ga at 8:15 at brooklyn 1 and was about 8 people deep in front of ed. i could have wiggled my way up further but I really didn't need ed staring into my eyes to make the night. i enjoyed hanging with my friends all day, drinking beer and just relaxing before teh show.
LOL
I was sitting 2nd row up on the wings Stone's side right in front of the 'special guest and his friends'. I don't understand these threads..I was rockin' out and going nuts...people in front and all around me were going nuts, GA folks looked on fire especially in front on Mike's side....when the lights came on the ENTIRE ARENA from floor all the way to the roof was on their feet going nuts....during porch and alive the arena went crazy....during better man everyone was going crazy....and more and more....I don't get all this hate this show is getting...it was one of the best sets and shows of the tour...the band was on fire and full of energy and the crows was not bad from my point of view...it's frustrating that this band gets taken for granted and some feel so ENTITLED....just enjoy the show, the band, the fans, the experience....I am still numb and so glad I was able to come all the way to the opposite coast for this....thanks for reading.
I wanna race..with the sundown..I want a last breath..I don't let out...
Sounds like there are more than a few Scenario 2 types!
Each to their own I guess, but my evening in Vancouver couldn't have been better in Vancouver- I really feel we did it right!
Cheers!
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