Pearl jame gives and gives- Seattle crowd shows no respect.

KV4053

I dont understand. I was at both Vancouver (sec 119) and Seattle (GA) and thought they were equal in terms of energy.

What am I missing?

PJ draws an older crowd in the US compared to the crowds I have seen in So America from what I can tell so that may be a legit issue depending on what your benchmark is

Given2Fly-Fish

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

dwhite76 wrote:

From what I hear the people in GA didnt thaw out till the 2nd encore. I mean come on they were sitting out in 25 degree weather since 5 am.

Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.

For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?

Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.

Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.

It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.

FYI...Eating Mexican Food before joining your fellow man in the pit for 3 hours is a MAJOR party foul

Cosmo

PearlJammer623 wrote:

I was at the show , and it started out great, but the crowd was so lame.
They offered up n energy or support for the fucking home town band that sells out touring the world!
All the other cities celebrate and embrace the home town heros..ex bruce, lame ass bon jovi, billy joel, list goes on an on. For all the charity work and support this fucking band gives to seattle...they get nothing in return.
I will never fly out here for a show again...

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Bloody Tourists.

thefin190

A good portion of the attendants were people from out of town, so don't pin it all on us Seattle natives. Seattlites tend to be a bit docile when it comes to crowd energy I will give you that, but it wasn't all us. Plus, the seats I was at were fine, people were just as pumped and excited as I was and we were all singing along. We had good energy. Eddie probably asked the crowd to wake up because it was past midnight. That is kind of late for most people.

Please stop bitching about Seattle crowds, its bloody annoying. I just want my Seattle bootleg already.

Cosmo

thefin190 wrote:

A good portion of the attendants were people from out of town, so don't pin it all on us Seattle natives. Seattlites tend to be a bit docile when it comes to crowd energy I will give you that, but it wasn't all us. Plus, the seats I was at were fine, people were just as pumped and excited as I was and we were all singing along. We had good energy. Eddie probably asked the crowd to wake up because it was past midnight. That is kind of late for most people.

Please stop bitching about Seattle crowds, its bloody annoying. I just want my Seattle bootleg already.

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I'd add... people need to quit worrying about how other people enjoy the show, right?
If the 'Crowd's Energy' detracts from you having a good time... that's your gig, not the rest of the audience.

SomethingCreative

SZ303389 wrote:

seattle's dirty little secret is heroin btw, snap out of it seattle, you aren't that cool

dude... I'm sorry, but you're an ASS. KAT/SEA...PLEASE LOCK THIS FUCKING THREAD

FenwayFaithful

Glad I decided to come back to the forum...I missed all the complaining

shortstack

ed started all of this.

stickfig13

San Diego is their hometown show. Just saying...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Given2Fly-Fish wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

dwhite76 wrote:

From what I hear the people in GA didnt thaw out till the 2nd encore. I mean come on they were sitting out in 25 degree weather since 5 am.

Im sure they did just fine after being awake for 20 straight hours and freezing all day.

For the life of me... I can't understand the mentality that motivates someone to do this?

Scenario 1:
GA ticket holder freezes ass off. Gets tense in line as line monitors police an informal numbering system and some try to circumvent unofficial system. Waits anxiously as line begins to move into venue. Races to rail upon entry. Gets angry as more people squeeze against rail. Experiences disappointment when tambourine is not handed to them. Sad when person beside them gets wine and they are offered none (am I ugly?). Sees show 6 feet from stage.

Scenario 2:
GA ticket holder goes for Mexican food and margaritas with friends before show. Arrives at 7:30 as Mudhoney begins to play. Enters without any wait in line. Checks on the floor and discovers plenty of room. Grabs a beer and sits in some available seats to have a drink and watch Mudhoney. Grabs another beer and heads to floor securing a place to watch 20 feet from stage.

It seems a no-brainer to me, but obviously some feel differently.

FYI...Eating Mexican Food before joining your fellow man in the pit for 3 hours is a MAJOR party foul

I 'process' mexican food better than that clam shucker from Boston who was crop dusting (I think it was Boston?). You're safe around me.

But with that said, there are a ton of offensive behaviours that people in pits are going to have to prepare for given the general obscenity human beings are: some people spill their drinks all over; some smoke cigarrettes; some smoke pot; some scream unintelligibly; some sing way off key; some bludgeon their way to the front; and, among an endless list... some fart.

Which one is worse? Depends on who you talk to.

rival.

i don't have a dog in this fight because i will never judge a crowd at a show i have never attended, but a question for seattle residents...

is pearl jam looked upon as that popular high school kid that never left town, never moved after graduating and growing up? you just kind of get so used to seeing them in and around the city (small city) after being a band for 20+ years it's hard for non-hardcore fans/residents to really get excited about them anymore?

they just kind of become... there

any thoughts or opinions?

burg

I met 10x's the people that were not from Seattle (NYC, Houston, Mexico, Boston, Other east coast locations...) at this show...I'm local and was at the show - but I would venture to say a good % of folks at the show were not from the greater seattle area... that being said, I though the energy was OK - but not great.. it was still a great show.

BigNolDogg

rival. wrote:

i don't have a dog in this fight because i will never judge a crowd at a show i have never attended, but a question for seattle residents...

is pearl jam looked upon as that popular high school kid that never left town, never moved after graduating and growing up? you just kind of get so used to seeing them in and around the city (small city) after being a band for 20+ years it's hard for non-hardcore fans/residents to really get excited about them anymore?

they just kind of become... there

any thoughts or opinions?

Yes my thought is when a concert sells out in like a minute that fanbase wherever they are from for the Seattle show is hardcore. Probably the people who weren't loud didn't pay for the tickets. All i know is that in the 200 sections where almost everybody PAID for their tickets people were dancing and singing and having the time of their lives. If we thought of them as the band that never left town why would every concert be an instant sell out? Also being from outside Seattle and living here for 10 years Seattle Crowds are always different. That being said I thought they rocked for a Seattle crowd and I thought PJ showed an energy i hadn't seen since the mid 90's and was fitting with so many early era tracks.

RKCNDY

I have an idea, start the tour in Seattle, and end it in Seattle, then compare the two crowds.

Those that live in the NW and go on tour, have to drive a hell of a lot more than those in the east that go to multiple shows. Lack of sleep, and long stretches of driving are very draining.

rival. wrote:

i don't have a dog in this fight because i will never judge a crowd at a show i have never attended, but a question for seattle residents...

is pearl jam looked upon as that popular high school kid that never left town, never moved after graduating and growing up? you just kind of get so used to seeing them in and around the city (small city) after being a band for 20+ years it's hard for non-hardcore fans/residents to really get excited about them anymore?

they just kind of become... there

any thoughts or opinions?

I don't feel that way, I always appreciate a chance to see them, but I was a bit offended that they did not do their 20th celebration at the Gorge.

Wouldn't say Seattle is a 'small city' at just over half a million. Being a Seattle native, I grew up with the attitude of Seattle being more of 'the loner child' type of city, we do our own thing, because we like it, we didn't want to become 'the next big thing', we liked being a 'secret gem' type of city. When we got voted 'most liveable city' back in the late 80s and everybody started moving here, it lost a bit of its charm. So Seattle has settled into a nonchalant type of attitude...well, at least that's how I see it.

LukinFan

PearlJammer623 wrote:

even the south... It is off the hook.

Why "even" the south?

SDHSClassof82

RKCNDY wrote:

I grew up with the attitude of Seattle being more of 'the loner child' type of city, we do our own thing, because we like it, we didn't want to become 'the next big thing',

I think that's the key right there - individualism is very strong here. I don't know why that translates into raucous sports crowds and mellow concert crowds. Generally in the PNW, forming loud crazy tribes isn't really the thing. More of a solo run in the woods or kayak trip kinda place. I'm fairly new to the area and I'm discovering new things I love about it all the time. I'd say it's still a bit of a secret gem. A lot of people don't even realize it's got a huge gorgeous lake on it eastern side. And the summers, long sun-drenched days, uncrowded waterfront and miles and miles of peaceful hiking trails....uh, nevermind. Rains every day here - all year long - it's miserable.

I wouldn't say Pearl Jam is the popular kid that never left town and is taken for granted. From what I hear, their initial huge success and ambition was met with a lot ridicule locally. Now I'd say they've earned respect with their years of hard work and humility. Their support of local organizations is widely recognized and appreciated. I've noticed a lot of comments about them in The Stranger or PI start out: "Well I've never been a huge Pearl Jam fan, but they did a pretty awesome job on......."

RKCNDY

SDHSClassof82 wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

I grew up with the attitude of Seattle being more of 'the loner child' type of city, we do our own thing, because we like it, we didn't want to become 'the next big thing',

I think that's the key right there - individualism is very strong here. I don't know why that translates into raucous sports crowds and mellow concert crowds. Generally in the PNW, forming loud crazy tribes isn't really the thing. More of a solo run in the woods or kayak trip kinda place. I'm fairly new to the area and I'm discovering new things I love about it all the time. I'd say it's still a bit of a secret gem. A lot of people don't even realize it's got a huge gorgeous lake on it eastern side. And the summers, long sun-drenched days, uncrowded waterfront and miles and miles of peaceful hiking trails....uh, nevermind. Rains every day here - all year long - it's miserable.

I wouldn't say Pearl Jam is the popular kid that never left town and is taken for granted. From what I hear, their initial huge success and ambition was met with a lot ridicule locally. Now I'd say they've earned respect with their years of hard work and humility. Their support of local organizations is widely recognized and appreciated. I've noticed a lot of comments about them in The Stranger or PI start out: "Well I've never been a huge Pearl Jam fan, but they did a pretty awesome job on......."

ahh...you 'get it'! Nobody will ever really truly understand what it's like to live here or understand the residents until you really spend time to immerse yourself here. We love the city, we love the things here and have a passion, we just aren't as forward or obvious about it.

South of Seattle

rival. wrote:

i don't have a dog in this fight because i will never judge a crowd at a show i have never attended, but a question for seattle residents...

is pearl jam looked upon as that popular high school kid that never left town, never moved after graduating and growing up? you just kind of get so used to seeing them in and around the city (small city) after being a band for 20+ years it's hard for non-hardcore fans/residents to really get excited about them anymore?

they just kind of become... there

any thoughts or opinions?

A couple of things. Like SDHSClassof82 stated the individualism is strong out here and honestly the whole "Grunge" scene has came and went.

With the sports teams, they've been so shitty for so long and everybody here loves the Seahawks. Also the Hawks are peaking which is why the crowd is loud and there is a bright future for the team.

Go to a Mariners game and you can hear a pin drop

Plus tastes and things change. Look at the Seattle Pearl Jam crowd, I don't think I saw more than a handful of people that are under 25 years of age.

The music tastes here have morphed into Macklemore, MadRad, Kurt Vile, Lumineers, and EDM. Face it, PJ isn't as popular with the mainstream as they used to be.

GR8Dane

How can it be Seattle's fault when it all these people fly in for the show?

Wasn't most of GA 10Club members?

:nono:

Pot is legal here. (and good.....)

But I will say it was one of the better Seattle crowds of late.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

hometown crowds aren't the best crowds unless the band/act/team are new to the success racket. the watchmen were huge in winnipeg in the 90's. now they play a free show before a Bomber game and you barely get a few hundred there. it's the same old shit. "aw, seen em a thousand times already, why bother?".