is Lost Dogs the best studio album?

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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,015
    As it currently stands- no

    If the below B-sides were an album, it would be my favorite ever:

    Wash
    State of Love and Trust
    Alone
    Brother
    Fatal
    Breath
    Sad
    Footsteps
    Hard To Imagine
    Undone
    Hold On
    Yellow Ledbetter
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    rival. wrote:
    PJStatTracker wrote:
    rival. wrote:

    i'll see your sweet lew and raise you a hitchhiker, don't gimme no lip, whale song, last kiss.

    hitchhiker is great!

    the "YOU'RE COOL" line KILLS me. ugh.

    i've been meaning to edit the track listing on my ipod for this album to delete the songs i can't stand and rearrange the ones i do like. there are obviously some standouts, but obviously some gigantic clunkers that just cannot be taken seriously and you have to assume the band was just fucking around in the studio with a couple tracks.
    Isnt it "You fool"?
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,726
    PJStatTracker wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJStatTracker wrote:

    Strangest Tribe and Dead Man are two of the best ones on there, though...that's not even a matter of opinion.
    Hmm, I think it is a matter of opinion. ;) I don't like either one of them. They bore the shit out of me.

    fact!
    :lol: :nono: They're lame songs!!! :mrgreen:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,726
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    rival. wrote:
    PJStatTracker wrote:

    hitchhiker is great!

    the "YOU'RE COOL" line KILLS me. ugh.

    i've been meaning to edit the track listing on my ipod for this album to delete the songs i can't stand and rearrange the ones i do like. there are obviously some standouts, but obviously some gigantic clunkers that just cannot be taken seriously and you have to assume the band was just fucking around in the studio with a couple tracks.
    Isnt it "You fool"?
    "You fool! Dude, what do you think you're doing??"

    ..................

    "You're cool! Something-something your calculations!"

    It's both. ;)

    Fucking awesome song.
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  • F5AgainstOne
    F5AgainstOne New Hampshire, USA Posts: 1,462
    PJStatTracker wrote:
    It was certainly never meant to be anything other than what it is. A collection of b-sides. But why not put Leatherman on there??
    I love all of them except Sweet Lew and Brother.
    I'm glad that Leatherman was left off, I'd rather have a 4th LP of Lady Gaga added in than to have that stupid song on there.
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Isnt it "You fool"?

    the beginning starts off with "you fool" and then half way through there is a "you're cool".

    almost forgot about the "YOU FOOL". what a terrible song :lol:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,726
    rival. wrote:
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Isnt it "You fool"?

    the beginning starts off with "you fool" and then half way through there is a "you're cool".

    almost forgot about the "YOU FOOL". what a terrible song :lol:
    :nono:
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Fucking awesome song.

    :lol:

    give it up!
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    rival. wrote:
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Isnt it "You fool"?

    the beginning starts off with "you fool" and then half way through there is a "you're cool".

    almost forgot about the "YOU FOOL". what a terrible song :lol:
    :nono:

    :lol::lol:
  • aurynsdad
    aurynsdad Posts: 863
    F Me In The Brain wrote:
    If I could cherry pick 10 songs from both records it would be much, much better.

    Exactly. While the typical PJ album has a few songs that I connect less with, generally speaking I connect well with all of it. On Lost Dogs, there are a number of songs I just flat-out don't like. There are also some real winners for me personally. That is probably to be expected on a compilation of rarities and B-sides.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    I do agree, regardless of lyrics, Hitchhiker is a weak point amidst LD.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,726
    rival. wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    rival. wrote:

    the beginning starts off with "you fool" and then half way through there is a "you're cool".

    almost forgot about the "YOU FOOL". what a terrible song :lol:
    :nono:

    :lol::lol:
    What? I like it. :willshrug:
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    As it currently stands- no

    If the below B-sides were an album, it would be my favorite ever:

    Wash
    State of Love and Trust
    Alone
    Brother
    Fatal
    Breath
    Sad
    Footsteps
    Hard To Imagine
    Undone
    Hold On
    Yellow Ledbetter


    Add Just a girl and I'm sold
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Gold 26
    Gold 26 Posts: 676
    I love the start of All Night/Sad/Down/Hitchhiker and I've really started to enjoy Education.

    I think I'm alone but I've never dug Wash, I've largely ignored it over the years.
    All my favourite singers have stolen all of my best lines.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    Lost Dogs is great except for the rerecorded stuff. The stuff that was "brand new" at the time like Education, Hitchhiker, Sad, In The Moonlight, etc. are great but I just don't get why they'd rerecord stuff like Alone and Hard To Imagine. The originals were fine.

    Leatherman is conspicuous by it's absence. Always found that odd.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,726
    RoleModelsinBlood31 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    As it currently stands- no

    If the below B-sides were an album, it would be my favorite ever:

    Wash
    State of Love and Trust
    Alone
    Brother
    Fatal
    Breath
    Sad
    Footsteps
    Hard To Imagine
    Undone
    Hold On
    Yellow Ledbetter


    Add Just a girl and I'm sold
    Great list, but still missing some of my faves from Lost Dogs.... Some of them are quirkier songs, which is why I think they didn't make it to albums. I.e. Black,Red, Yellow, Down, Other Side, Education, In the Moonlight, HItchhiker.... For me, these are 'weirder' songs, which appeals to me a lot, but they aren't usually great for albums (beside Vitalogy, apparently).
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  • Bant
    Bant Millinowhere, ME Posts: 506
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Isnt it "You fool"?
    "You fool! Dude, what do you think you're doing??"

    ..................

    "You're cool! Something-something your calculations!"

    It's both. ;)

    Fucking awesome song.


    Great song, I love it! 8-)

    You fool, dude what do what you think you're doing?
    So you're lost, my problem, that's not
    Conductor says, 'off of my train'
    We understood, guest/host relationships ain't my thing
    Even if I could, you ain't the kind of person I would help anyway
    I'm about to explode
    Cuz I can't carry your load
    Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker

    You're cool, and cold in your calculations
    We're friends, only because of my situation
    I'm about to unload
    Cuz I can't carry your load
    Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker

    Hitchhiker...
    So be gone, too soon is too late
    I don't want no delay
    So be gone, get your food off someone else's plate
    Go tell all your friends
    I'm an idiot and you're great
    Hitchhiker... hitchhiker...
    Now go, hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Yes with yield close behind.
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  • slobberdog68
    slobberdog68 Posts: 692
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    I do agree, regardless of lyrics, Hitchhiker is a weak point amidst LD.

    Love Hitchhiker!
    Go tell all your friends
    I'm an idiot and you're great ;)
    Make sure the fortune that you seek
    Is the fortune that you need

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    F5AgainstOne wrote:
    PJStatTracker wrote:
    It was certainly never meant to be anything other than what it is. A collection of b-sides. But why not put Leatherman on there??
    I love all of them except Sweet Lew and Brother.
    I'm glad that Leatherman was left off, I'd rather have a 4th LP of Lady Gaga added in than to have that stupid song on there.
    :lol: agree
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