Lost Dogs is great except for the rerecorded stuff. The stuff that was "brand new" at the time like Education, Hitchhiker, Sad, In The Moonlight, etc. are great but I just don't get why they'd rerecord stuff like Alone and Hard To Imagine. The originals were fine.
Leatherman is conspicuous by it's absence. Always found that odd.
If the below B-sides were an album, it would be my favorite ever:
Wash
State of Love and Trust
Alone
Brother
Fatal
Breath
Sad
Footsteps
Hard To Imagine
Undone
Hold On
Yellow Ledbetter
Add Just a girl and I'm sold
Great list, but still missing some of my faves from Lost Dogs.... Some of them are quirkier songs, which is why I think they didn't make it to albums. I.e. Black,Red, Yellow, Down, Other Side, Education, In the Moonlight, HItchhiker.... For me, these are 'weirder' songs, which appeals to me a lot, but they aren't usually great for albums (beside Vitalogy, apparently).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
"You fool! Dude, what do you think you're doing??"
..................
"You're cool! Something-something your calculations!"
It's both.
Fucking awesome song.
Great song, I love it!
You fool, dude what do what you think you're doing?
So you're lost, my problem, that's not
Conductor says, 'off of my train'
We understood, guest/host relationships ain't my thing
Even if I could, you ain't the kind of person I would help anyway
I'm about to explode
Cuz I can't carry your load
Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
You're cool, and cold in your calculations
We're friends, only because of my situation
I'm about to unload
Cuz I can't carry your load
Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
Hitchhiker...
So be gone, too soon is too late
I don't want no delay
So be gone, get your food off someone else's plate
Go tell all your friends
I'm an idiot and you're great
Hitchhiker... hitchhiker...
Now go, hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
It was certainly never meant to be anything other than what it is. A collection of b-sides. But why not put Leatherman on there??
I love all of them except Sweet Lew and Brother.
I'm glad that Leatherman was left off, I'd rather have a 4th LP of Lady Gaga added in than to have that stupid song on there.
It was certainly never meant to be anything other than what it is. A collection of b-sides. But why not put Leatherman on there??
I love all of them except Sweet Lew and Brother.
I'm glad that Leatherman was left off, I'd rather have a 4th LP of Lady Gaga added in than to have that stupid song on there.
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
Well, I don't even consider it a studio album, so I'd have to say no. Granted, they are songs recorded in studios, but to me a true studio album is a batch of songs from a specific time, recorded at the same sessions, released with a specific track order - not a bunch of outtakes and previously released b-sides that aren't even in chronological order (though I'm sure they did put thought into the sequencing of LD).
I've probably only listened to it as "Lost Dogs" a few times - what I've done is create playlists of each studio album, and then at the end I tack on the b-sides and then the outtakes, and listen to it in that form. I just like it better that way than any other.
So for example, when I listen to Riot Act it's:
(the full album)
Down ("I Am Mine" b-side)
Other Side ("Save You" b-side)
Undone (outtake)
4/20/02
(and I even tack on Eddie's solo version of "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" at the end, since it also came out in '02 and I think was played a fair amount on the Riot Act tour).
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
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Agreed. I do not consider LD a studio album.
There is not a song on LD that I don't root for. I love them all - thoroughly entertained!
That being said - what makes a bad song? The actual lyrics? The actual music?
Oh please let it rain today.
Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
well that is where you are wrong, a compilation is a collection of previously or mostly released stuff, like a greatest hits, since Lost Dogs is all stuff not on previous albums, I consider it, it's own album, but it's all studio stuff, so by definition, I think that qualifies it as a studio album
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
well that is where you are wrong, a compilation is a collection of previously or mostly released stuff, like a greatest hits, since Lost Dogs is all stuff not on previous albums, I consider it, it's own album, but it's all studio stuff, so by definitionI that qualifies it as a studio album
I consider it a studio album as well, for the same reasons. No, it's not a traditional studio album, but it still is one IMO. I never understood why people sometimes call it a compilation album. That's not what a compilation album is.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
well that is where you are wrong, a compilation is a collection of previously or mostly released stuff, like a greatest hits, since Lost Dogs is all stuff not on previous albums, I consider it, it's own album, but it's all studio stuff, so by definition, I think that qualifies it as a studio album
It's technically not an album like Ten or Vitalogy so it's difficult to compare. Each album has a certain feel to it and Lost Dogs just mashes it all together. I really enjoy Lost Dogs, but I'd call myself crazy if I ever thought of putting it ahead of Vitalogy or Yield.
It would be kind of like calling a bands 'greatest hits' their best album.
A-Hey, man, what's your favourite Pearl Jam album?
B-Without a doubt, Rearview Mirror.
A-Oh, great song. I love Vs, too!
B-No, bro, Rearview Mirror is my favourite album.
A-That doesn't make sense... it's a greatest hits.
B-Don't tell me my business; you're not my dad.
A-Okay, but I'm just saying that a greatest hits is a mix of every album. It doesn't really count.
B-Blow me. I do what I want.
A-Alright then, this conversation turned real quick.
B-Whatever. Tickets for the upcoming shows are going on sale tomorrow morning so I have to go home, sit at my computer, and constantly click 'refresh' so I can get as many tickets as possible. Seeing Pearl Jam once a tour isn't enough.
A-Don't you think it's a little ridiculous that you're hoarding so many tickets? How can you afford that?
B-I'm skipping on child support and not eating. Oh, I need to by this never Sevens thing they just released. I have no idea what it is, but I need to have it.
A-What does it cost?
B-Doesn't matter. I need it.
i agree with all of that, Footsteps/Wash/Drifting should have been left alone. I never listen to those versions, i want the originals.
The lack of any kind of cohesion definitely ruins it for me. I honestly was shocked on release that they didn't try to make things mesh a little more. If they re-recorded vocals, why couldn't they take 5 minutes to get a mood and flow to the tracklist.
Plenty of great songs, so i'm thankful they put it out. Fatal, HTI, Strangest, Down, All Night, Sad, Otherside. These are the highlights for me, by far. Leatherman should have been on there, especially considering Leavin Here or YL is. Dead Man is great, but definitely sort of a downer, so i don't listen to it much. Some of 'em, like Hitch/Education/Undone i find kind of ....blah. I love Gremmie, that can stay. Hate Bee Girl. Hate Sweet Lew, far more than anything else i've ever heard by this band (this coming from a PJ fan who loves all the interludes and Stupid Mop on Vitalogy)
Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
well that is where you are wrong, a compilation is a collection of previously or mostly released stuff, like a greatest hits, since Lost Dogs is all stuff not on previous albums, I consider it, it's own album, but it's all studio stuff, so by definition, I think that qualifies it as a studio album
Sorry, but it's a compilation. Without question.
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Leatherman should have been on there, especially considering Leavin Here or YL is.
Leatherman was an odd omission.
Last Kiss should not have been on there. But that being said, and since it is a cover (as well as Leaving Here), then where the hell is Sonic Reducer and I've Got A Feeling?!?
And leaving off Angel was just a slap in the face to Dave A.
And another song they re-worked that should have been left alone: Dirty Frank.
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Im sorry, but i don't consider Lost Dogs a studio album. I hate saying this cause I'll probably piss a lot of people off but I consider it to be a compilation album. It's a collection of b-sides, rarities, and other unreleased songs right? Usually a collection of songs over a bands career is considered a compilation, not a studio album...
well that is where you are wrong, a compilation is a collection of previously or mostly released stuff, like a greatest hits, since Lost Dogs is all stuff not on previous albums, I consider it, it's own album, but it's all studio stuff, so by definition, I think that qualifies it as a studio album
It's not a studio album. It's a collection of B-sides and rarities.
It's a very good collection.
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All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Add Just a girl and I'm sold
I think I'm alone but I've never dug Wash, I've largely ignored it over the years.
Leatherman is conspicuous by it's absence. Always found that odd.
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Great song, I love it!
You fool, dude what do what you think you're doing?
So you're lost, my problem, that's not
Conductor says, 'off of my train'
We understood, guest/host relationships ain't my thing
Even if I could, you ain't the kind of person I would help anyway
I'm about to explode
Cuz I can't carry your load
Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
You're cool, and cold in your calculations
We're friends, only because of my situation
I'm about to unload
Cuz I can't carry your load
Hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
Hitchhiker...
So be gone, too soon is too late
I don't want no delay
So be gone, get your food off someone else's plate
Go tell all your friends
I'm an idiot and you're great
Hitchhiker... hitchhiker...
Now go, hitchhiker... go, hitchhiker
Love Hitchhiker!
Go tell all your friends
I'm an idiot and you're great
Is the fortune that you need
My fav album too
Don't like Bee Girl, Brother, Dirty Frank, Last Kiss or Gremmie. Love Everything Else. Listen to it daily
Is the fortune that you need
I've probably only listened to it as "Lost Dogs" a few times - what I've done is create playlists of each studio album, and then at the end I tack on the b-sides and then the outtakes, and listen to it in that form. I just like it better that way than any other.
So for example, when I listen to Riot Act it's:
(the full album)
Down ("I Am Mine" b-side)
Other Side ("Save You" b-side)
Undone (outtake)
4/20/02
(and I even tack on Eddie's solo version of "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" at the end, since it also came out in '02 and I think was played a fair amount on the Riot Act tour).
Agreed. I do not consider LD a studio album.
There is not a song on LD that I don't root for. I love them all - thoroughly entertained!
That being said - what makes a bad song? The actual lyrics? The actual music?
Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Is the fortune that you need
It would be kind of like calling a bands 'greatest hits' their best album.
A-Hey, man, what's your favourite Pearl Jam album?
B-Without a doubt, Rearview Mirror.
A-Oh, great song. I love Vs, too!
B-No, bro, Rearview Mirror is my favourite album.
A-That doesn't make sense... it's a greatest hits.
B-Don't tell me my business; you're not my dad.
A-Okay, but I'm just saying that a greatest hits is a mix of every album. It doesn't really count.
B-Blow me. I do what I want.
A-Alright then, this conversation turned real quick.
B-Whatever. Tickets for the upcoming shows are going on sale tomorrow morning so I have to go home, sit at my computer, and constantly click 'refresh' so I can get as many tickets as possible. Seeing Pearl Jam once a tour isn't enough.
A-Don't you think it's a little ridiculous that you're hoarding so many tickets? How can you afford that?
B-I'm skipping on child support and not eating. Oh, I need to by this never Sevens thing they just released. I have no idea what it is, but I need to have it.
A-What does it cost?
B-Doesn't matter. I need it.
Maybe if it didn't include worse versions of so many amazing songs it could be a contender.
Wash
Drifting
U
BR&Y
Alone
None of the versions on LD are as good as the originals.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Lest we forget the re-worked Footsteps too.
Keep the harmonica for concerts...leave Footsteps alone. There was NO need to add it to the studio recording. None.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
The lack of any kind of cohesion definitely ruins it for me. I honestly was shocked on release that they didn't try to make things mesh a little more. If they re-recorded vocals, why couldn't they take 5 minutes to get a mood and flow to the tracklist.
Plenty of great songs, so i'm thankful they put it out. Fatal, HTI, Strangest, Down, All Night, Sad, Otherside. These are the highlights for me, by far. Leatherman should have been on there, especially considering Leavin Here or YL is. Dead Man is great, but definitely sort of a downer, so i don't listen to it much. Some of 'em, like Hitch/Education/Undone i find kind of ....blah. I love Gremmie, that can stay. Hate Bee Girl. Hate Sweet Lew, far more than anything else i've ever heard by this band (this coming from a PJ fan who loves all the interludes and Stupid Mop on Vitalogy)
Studio album? Eh...maybe/sorta. Best?
Sorry, but it's a compilation. Without question.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Leatherman was an odd omission.
Last Kiss should not have been on there. But that being said, and since it is a cover (as well as Leaving Here), then where the hell is Sonic Reducer and I've Got A Feeling?!?
And leaving off Angel was just a slap in the face to Dave A.
And another song they re-worked that should have been left alone: Dirty Frank.
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It's not a studio album. It's a collection of B-sides and rarities.
It's a very good collection.
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