Good Bands that Hit the Crapper.

SVRDhand13 · October 2013

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Ummmm, you realize that one of their albums post OK Computer was named album of the decade by several publications, right? Radiohead is still making amazing music. It's just more experimental now which some rock fans may not appreciate.

those same publications probably had Britney as #2 on that list. I don't put any stock in those lists.

I usually don't either, but when many publications list the same album as #1, you start to think that it may be accurate

And most of those lists had The Strokes, Arcade Fire and other rock bands near the top- not pop garbage

Tim Simmons · October 2013

I'll say PJ. I still love them, but you are fooling yourself if you don't think there is a dropoff after Binaural.

Tim Simmons · October 2013

I loved MMJ, but I quit with Highly Suspicious and the Evil Urges album.

Death Cab for Cutie is another after Transatlanticism.

SatansFuton · October 2013

Tim Simmons wrote:

I'll say PJ. I still love them, but you are fooling yourself if you don't think there is a dropoff after Binaural.

I'd go back one more album personally, because I thought Binaural was pretty disappointing. I like it more now than I did then, but my Pearl Jam "golden era" ends with Yield.

And if you do a Google search on this topic you will find similar lists on other forums, and Pearl Jam is usually on them, but the topics I saw don't even give them credit for No Code and Yield. Post-Vitalogy seems to be the "Crapper" from what I see.

Of The Aggie · October 2013

I'd have to go with Interpol. Their first two albums were amazing. The last two have been utter crap.

choop · October 2013

i agree with Pearl Jam, to the extent I haven't loved any album in over 10 years.

will add my morning jacket to the list. they went downhill with the last few. u2 used to be an amazing band too, but not since the 80s

brianlux · October 2013

SatansFuton wrote:

DURP wrote:

eeriepadave wrote:

Stone Temple Pilots
Green Day

Bush

I like the first 3 STP albums, but not much after that.

With Bush, I didn't care for The Science Of Things too much, but I liked Golden State. I'm not into the New Bush.

Some more for me, not necessarily The Crapper, but I have very little use for after a certain point...

Weezer
Foo Fighters
Live
Moby Grape
Smashing Pumpkins
Sponge
Violent Femmes
Fleetwood Mac (Buckingham/Nicks lineup)
Jethro Tull
Humble Pie
Marilyn Manson

Agreed on most counts here. Violent Femmes were a major let down after seeing live them early on and having such high hopes for them dashes. Moby Grape is a sad story in light of Skip Spence losing his way then losing his mind and finally losing his life. A very sad story.

Benzor · October 2013

Of The Aggie wrote:

I'd have to go with Interpol. Their first two albums were amazing. The last two have been utter crap.

Good call...TOTBL is nothing short of a masterpiece...Antics was a drop off but still very good...OLTA has a few very good tracks but is a clear downgrade from Antics...and their latest release has one decent moment (Lights) and the rest is pretty much a joke.

SatansFuton · October 2013

brianlux wrote:

Moby Grape is a sad story in light of Skip Spence losing his way then losing his mind and finally losing his life. A very sad story.

Yes, they are pretty much THE cautionary tale for rock musicians. Not just because of Skip (I wouldn't have included them just for that) but they also made a bunch of poor decisions, let themselves get screwed around by managers and producers, got charged though not convicted for having sex with underage girls, and other issues. They were probably doomed before Skip ever took to attacking people's doors with axes. They had a lot of promise, but petered out very quickly.

Spartanacus · October 2013

Benzor wrote:

I think a lot of people could make a pretty strong argument for Pearl Jam. Not necessarily my opnion, but I'd have a hard time arguing against it. Don't get me wrong, they're incredible live and I do enjoy every album they release, but if I try to look at their latest releases from a critical, non biased stand point....well let's just say it's not too pretty.

I hear you, but my thought on the PJ topic is that the majority of people out there aren't real music fans...not like everyone who is reading this right now. They aren't in any fan clubs, they don't spend time on fan forums, they don't go to many concerts, they don't buy much music, and they only listen to what the radio gods say is worth listening to. There are unfortunatley a lot more sheeple on this planet than people.

Granted...PJ could've done a better job promoting themselves post Vs., but it is what it is.

That being said...you all get a big :thumbdown: for mentioning PJ being anywhere near 'Crapper' status!!! :crazy:

SatansFuton · October 2013

Spartanacus wrote:

Benzor wrote:

I think a lot of people could make a pretty strong argument for Pearl Jam. Not necessarily my opnion, but I'd have a hard time arguing against it. Don't get me wrong, they're incredible live and I do enjoy every album they release, but if I try to look at their latest releases from a critical, non biased stand point....well let's just say it's not too pretty.

I hear you, but my thought on the PJ topic is that the majority of people out there aren't real music fans...not like everyone who is reading this right now. They aren't in any fan clubs, they don't spend time on fan forums, they don't go to many concerts, they don't buy much music, and they only listen to what the radio gods say is worth listening to. There are unfortunatley a lot more sheeple on this planet than people.

Granted...PJ could've done a better job promoting themselves post Vs., but it is what it is.

That being said...you all get a big :thumbdown: for mentioning PJ being anywhere near 'Crapper' status!!! :crazy:

Wow. That's one of the most pompous things I've ever read.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · October 2013

Live. Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper were awesome. It was a slow decline after that.

SatansFuton · October 2013

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Live. Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper were awesome. It was a slow decline after that.

I liked those, and Secret Samadhi, but didn't like them after that.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · October 2013

SatansFuton wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Live. Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper were awesome. It was a slow decline after that.

I liked those, and Secret Samadhi, but didn't like them after that.

after that it seemed to become the vehicle of Eddie K and his spiritual views.......the front cover of Songs From Black Mountain made it look like he saw himself as some kind of prophet.

DewieCox · October 2013

Spartanacus wrote:

Benzor wrote:

I think a lot of people could make a pretty strong argument for Pearl Jam. Not necessarily my opnion, but I'd have a hard time arguing against it. Don't get me wrong, they're incredible live and I do enjoy every album they release, but if I try to look at their latest releases from a critical, non biased stand point....well let's just say it's not too pretty.

I hear you, but my thought on the PJ topic is that the majority of people out there aren't real music fans...not like everyone who is reading this right now. They aren't in any fan clubs, they don't spend time on fan forums, they don't go to many concerts, they don't buy much music, and they only listen to what the radio gods say is worth listening to. There are unfortunatley a lot more sheeple on this planet than people.

Granted...PJ could've done a better job promoting themselves post Vs., but it is what it is.

That being said...you all get a big :thumbdown: for mentioning PJ being anywhere near 'Crapper' status!!! :crazy:

I dunno. I think Backspacer is pretty close to "crapper" territory. Can't tell you how many times I've read "it's a bad album by PJ standards, but great compared to everybody else" on this board. That just reeks of fans justifying a crummy album. I think a lot of the albums mentioned, so far, as examples of bands entering the craposphere are miles better.

Do I think PJ is anywhere near crapper territory as a whole? Hell no!!! Not by a long shot, or I wouldn't be here.

DewieCox · October 2013

SatansFuton wrote:

Spartanacus wrote:

Benzor wrote:

I think a lot of people could make a pretty strong argument for Pearl Jam. Not necessarily my opnion, but I'd have a hard time arguing against it. Don't get me wrong, they're incredible live and I do enjoy every album they release, but if I try to look at their latest releases from a critical, non biased stand point....well let's just say it's not too pretty.

I hear you, but my thought on the PJ topic is that the majority of people out there aren't real music fans...not like everyone who is reading this right now. They aren't in any fan clubs, they don't spend time on fan forums, they don't go to many concerts, they don't buy much music, and they only listen to what the radio gods say is worth listening to. There are unfortunatley a lot more sheeple on this planet than people.

Granted...PJ could've done a better job promoting themselves post Vs., but it is what it is.

That being said...you all get a big :thumbdown: for mentioning PJ being anywhere near 'Crapper' status!!! :crazy:

Wow. That's one of the most pompous things I've ever read.

I don't think it's pompous, it just doesn't make sense as an argument. Some of the stuff he says is true, but I don't see the bearing it has on this discussion. Reminds of that scene that people often reference, from Billy Madison.

SatansFuton · October 2013

DewieCox wrote:

I don't think it's pompous, it just doesn't make sense as an argument. Some of the stuff he says is true, but I don't see the bearing it has on this discussion. Reminds of that scene that people often reference, from Billy Madison.

Belonging to a message board or fan club does not make one more enlightened when it comes to music. Those that don't aren't "sheeple" who have to be told what to listen to.

Spartanacus · October 2013

SatansFuton wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

I don't think it's pompous, it just doesn't make sense as an argument. Some of the stuff he says is true, but I don't see the bearing it has on this discussion. Reminds of that scene that people often reference, from Billy Madison.

Belonging to a message board or fan club does not make one more enlightened when it comes to music. Those that don't aren't "sheeple" who have to be told what to listen to.

Did I say that if you aren't a fan club member or peruse music forums, you are a sheeple? No...I simply meant to say that there are exponentionally more casual music listeners in the world than those who might consider themselves authorities on music as a whole, or any genre of music.

To clarify...I am FAR from an authority on music 'as a whole'...but I know 'grunge' about as good as anyone on the planet not hailing from Seattle in the early to mid 90's.

Have a nice day.

K_jam · October 2013

Here's an interesting question, if pearl jams first 3 albums didn't exist, would they have the luxury of releasing whatever they want, with a lot of fanfare?? and would the fans still attend their concerts without the hits from the first 3 albums?? I think yes pj have hit the crapper, but we can always listen to ten,vs, vitalogy and for me even yield and all we be forgotten.

Aaron 23 · October 2013

Spartanacus wrote:

I hear you, but my thought on the PJ topic is that the majority of people out there aren't real music fans...not like everyone who is reading this right now. They aren't in any fan clubs, they don't spend time on fan forums, they don't go to many concerts, they don't buy much music, and they only listen to what the radio gods say is worth listening to. There are unfortunatley a lot more sheeple on this planet than people.

Granted...PJ could've done a better job promoting themselves post Vs., but it is what it is.

That being said...you all get a big :thumbdown: for mentioning PJ being anywhere near 'Crapper' status!!! :crazy:

Says the guy that has Radiohead going downhill after the 90s.

This thread hit the crapper on post #1

That said, my contribution to this post (at least one not mentioned, although I agree with others, including PJ..at least post RA): Muse

Good Bands that Hit the Crapper.

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