So is Seattle 2 a pipe dream?

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  • YLed2YLed2 Posts: 5,534
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,340
    YLed2 wrote:
    WE ALL BELIEVE! WE ALL BELEIVE IT!
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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    YLed2 wrote:
    WE ALL BELIEVE! WE ALL BELEIVE IT!

    +1
  • Common... Portland..Vancouver.. Spokane sell out already so we can get another Seattle show.. Im assuming thats what were waiting on... SELL SELL SELL :corn:
  • thefin190thefin190 Posts: 918
    thefin190 wrote:
    When are we going to admit that Eddie just hates the Seattle crowd? 2010 Vancouver show? He out right said that the crowd in Seattle sucked. And they even did not do PJ20 in their home town? ..... Just a thought

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    But yes, you are right, Ed doesn't express too many positive things about the Seattle crowds at Pearl Jam shows, makes sense though. Being someone who has been in many Seattle crowds at various, I would agree that there is not a lot of passion shown. And that goes for just about anything short of a Seahawks game (the stadium's architecture helps amplify the crowd quite a bit). The crowd gets mad at you for showing passion or energy to interrupt "their enjoyment of the show". In Vancouver I could tell that Ed was quite annoyed at the amount of stiffs that were in the front rows (good chance some of them were from Seattle), which is probably why Pearl Jam has changed it so there is a GA section in the front.

    A few notes though...

    1. A good amount of people at Seattle shows are from out of town. They want to do the whole Seattle tourist thing while seeing their favorite band in their hometown, understandable. So you can't completely blame the natives for the shit crowd (I know, kind of contradicts my earlier statement). When I saw Ed solo at Benaroya Hall, he was praising and thanking the crowd, and looked genuinely grateful for the opportunity at the end of the show. Of course, it is a completely different situation, but I don't think Ed completely hates Seattle crowds.

    2. Last time they announced two shows in Seattle in 2009, I don't think either of them sold out. Maybe Seattle 1 sold out but from what I could remember there were still upper deck seats available months later at least for the second show. For whatever reason the band front loaded all of the crowd pleasing songs into Seattle 1, so Seattle 2 had mostly deep cuts, good setlist, but not many "mainstream" songs and probably the shortest Porch solo I've ever heard. This could explain a lack of passion in the crowd for that show. This could explain why they would prefer to just have 1 sell out and play a completely kick ass show, kind of like they did in Vancouver 2 years ago.

    3. It was a little annoying that they had PJ20 in the middle of Wisconsin rather than their hometown or state, but I could understand them wanting to do it in the middle of America so it can easily be accessed by their east coast and midwest fans. What I believe they should've done is an Alpine Valley weekend followed by a weekend at the Gorge, that way they have the East Coast/Midwest covered in one weekend and the West Coast covered in the next weekend.

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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,838

    2. Last time they announced two shows in Seattle in 2009, I don't think either of them sold out. Maybe Seattle 1 sold out but from what I could remember there were still upper deck seats available months later at least for the second show. For whatever reason the band front loaded all of the crowd pleasing songs into Seattle 1, so Seattle 2 had mostly deep cuts, good setlist, but not many "mainstream" songs and probably the shortest Porch solo I've ever heard. This could explain a lack of passion in the crowd for that show. This could explain why they would prefer to just have 1 sell out and play a completely kick ass show, kind of like they did in Vancouver 2 years ago.

    I thought the '09 shows were pretty much sellouts by the time the concert actually happened. I don't recall there being many empty seats. One thing I'll add to your comments on the shows themselves. The encores seemed very similar on both nights. That's kind of the point where you launch the concert to stratosphere and night 2 started so good, then the encore was rather meh. For seattle shows I think you have a very seasoned audience. I think PJ has to try a little harder. You read about some of the wicked shows/setlists/ideas the PJ does on the east coast and you want them to try that hard in Seattle. Gorge '05 is still the best Seattle area show I've ever seen (best show i've seen period) and they really tried at that one. Acoustic opening set and a really interesting setlist front to back.

    I'm a bit interested to see how GA livens up the atmosphere. I saw 3 shows in 09. Calgary & Seattle I and II. Calgary was a GA festival without 10c tickets. The energy was off the charts. I felt like I'd gone back in time 15 years. The Calgary show was drastically better than the two Seattle shows.

    I'm still hoping for a 2nd show though.. the 2nd one's always seem better than night #1.
  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,340
    Bump for an announcement next week.
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  • So is Seattle 2 a pipe dream?

    I believe, yes, yes it is. Just like Albany was.
  • MONDAY :D ..... or Tuesday.. :? and Im gonna stop eating this popcorn :corn:
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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Zod wrote:

    2. Last time they announced two shows in Seattle in 2009, I don't think either of them sold out. Maybe Seattle 1 sold out but from what I could remember there were still upper deck seats available months later at least for the second show. For whatever reason the band front loaded all of the crowd pleasing songs into Seattle 1, so Seattle 2 had mostly deep cuts, good setlist, but not many "mainstream" songs and probably the shortest Porch solo I've ever heard. This could explain a lack of passion in the crowd for that show. This could explain why they would prefer to just have 1 sell out and play a completely kick ass show, kind of like they did in Vancouver 2 years ago.

    I thought the '09 shows were pretty much sellouts by the time the concert actually happened. I don't recall there being many empty seats. One thing I'll add to your comments on the shows themselves. The encores seemed very similar on both nights. That's kind of the point where you launch the concert to stratosphere and night 2 started so good, then the encore was rather meh. For seattle shows I think you have a very seasoned audience. I think PJ has to try a little harder. You read about some of the wicked shows/setlists/ideas the PJ does on the east coast and you want them to try that hard in Seattle. Gorge '05 is still the best Seattle area show I've ever seen (best show i've seen period) and they really tried at that one. Acoustic opening set and a really interesting setlist front to back.

    I'm a bit interested to see how GA livens up the atmosphere. I saw 3 shows in 09. Calgary & Seattle I and II. Calgary was a GA festival without 10c tickets. The energy was off the charts. I felt like I'd gone back in time 15 years. The Calgary show was drastically better than the two Seattle shows.

    I'm still hoping for a 2nd show though.. the 2nd one's always seem better than night #1.

    I have a bootleg DVD of the Calgary show and yes its crazy. At one point Eddie stops because they are passing the big metal gratings out of the way in the crowd by crowd surfing them over their heads... crazy shit! The whole place did resemble an early 90s show, just a big open field with tons of people jamming and bouncing :D

    The pit was going off that show! One of the reasons that DVD is cool.

    And those saying Seattle wasn't a sellout, this is from night two 2009 and on the back of the pj 20 book.. looks pretty packed to me and this is at the end of yellow ledbetter!
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,198
    smanchac1 wrote:
    Zod wrote:

    2. Last time they announced two shows in Seattle in 2009, I don't think either of them sold out. Maybe Seattle 1 sold out but from what I could remember there were still upper deck seats available months later at least for the second show. For whatever reason the band front loaded all of the crowd pleasing songs into Seattle 1, so Seattle 2 had mostly deep cuts, good setlist, but not many "mainstream" songs and probably the shortest Porch solo I've ever heard. This could explain a lack of passion in the crowd for that show. This could explain why they would prefer to just have 1 sell out and play a completely kick ass show, kind of like they did in Vancouver 2 years ago.

    I thought the '09 shows were pretty much sellouts by the time the concert actually happened. I don't recall there being many empty seats. One thing I'll add to your comments on the shows themselves. The encores seemed very similar on both nights. That's kind of the point where you launch the concert to stratosphere and night 2 started so good, then the encore was rather meh. For seattle shows I think you have a very seasoned audience. I think PJ has to try a little harder. You read about some of the wicked shows/setlists/ideas the PJ does on the east coast and you want them to try that hard in Seattle. Gorge '05 is still the best Seattle area show I've ever seen (best show i've seen period) and they really tried at that one. Acoustic opening set and a really interesting setlist front to back.

    I'm a bit interested to see how GA livens up the atmosphere. I saw 3 shows in 09. Calgary & Seattle I and II. Calgary was a GA festival without 10c tickets. The energy was off the charts. I felt like I'd gone back in time 15 years. The Calgary show was drastically better than the two Seattle shows.

    I'm still hoping for a 2nd show though.. the 2nd one's always seem better than night #1.

    I have a bootleg DVD of the Calgary show and yes its crazy. At one point Eddie stops because they are passing the big metal gratings out of the way in the crowd by crowd surfing them over their heads... crazy shit! The whole place did resemble an early 90s show, just a big open field with tons of people jamming and bouncing :D

    The pit was going off that show! One of the reasons that DVD is cool.

    And those saying Seattle wasn't a sellout, this is from night two 2009 and on the back of the pj 20 book.. looks pretty packed to me and this is at the end of yellow ledbetter!
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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    I'm going to dork out here and post this...

    That picture isn't from the 2009 shows. By then, the Sonics banners had been taken down from the rafters in the Key. I don't think it's from the 2002 shows either, Mike's hair was dyed red. It must be from one of the shows in 2000.
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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Ryan wrote:

    I thought the '09 shows were pretty much sellouts by the time the concert actually happened. I don't recall there being many empty seats. One thing I'll add to your comments on the shows themselves. The encores seemed very similar on both nights. That's kind of the point where you launch the concert to stratosphere and night 2 started so good, then the encore was rather meh. For seattle shows I think you have a very seasoned audience. I think PJ has to try a little harder. You read about some of the wicked shows/setlists/ideas the PJ does on the east coast and you want them to try that hard in Seattle. Gorge '05 is still the best Seattle area show I've ever seen (best show i've seen period) and they really tried at that one. Acoustic opening set and a really interesting setlist front to back.

    I'm a bit interested to see how GA livens up the atmosphere. I saw 3 shows in 09. Calgary & Seattle I and II. Calgary was a GA festival without 10c tickets. The energy was off the charts. I felt like I'd gone back in time 15 years. The Calgary show was drastically better than the two Seattle shows.

    I'm still hoping for a 2nd show though.. the 2nd one's always seem better than night #1.

    I have a bootleg DVD of the Calgary show and yes its crazy. At one point Eddie stops because they are passing the big metal gratings out of the way in the crowd by crowd surfing them over their heads... crazy shit! The whole place did resemble an early 90s show, just a big open field with tons of people jamming and bouncing :D

    The pit was going off that show! One of the reasons that DVD is cool.

    And those saying Seattle wasn't a sellout, this is from night two 2009 and on the back of the pj 20 book.. looks pretty packed to me and this is at the end of yellow ledbetter!
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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    [/quote]


    I'm going to dork out here and post this...

    That picture isn't from the 2009 shows. By then, the Sonics banners had been taken down from the rafters in the Key. I don't think it's from the 2002 shows either, Mike's hair was dyed red. It must be from one of the shows in 2000.[/quote]

    Yeah after pointing that out, i guess you are correct.

    They did tweet or instagram or post that picture on this website shortly after that show, which is why i always thought it was from 2009.

    Still a great pic and why its used on the back of the book.
  • ryanjp2323ryanjp2323 Posts: 562
    Come on Aug 13 announcement! Make it happen.
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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,340
    ryanjp2323 wrote:
    Come on Aug 13 announcement! Make it happen.
    +1
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  • mattcozmattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,243
    Ryan wrote:
    I don't think it's from the 2002 shows either, Mike's hair was dyed red.
    Kinda hard to tell, being a black and white photo. :roll:
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,931
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    demetrios wrote:
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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    To the top!

    Now that all the spares are dealt with maybe Monday it will be announced??
  • ryanjp2323ryanjp2323 Posts: 562
    keeping the pipe dream alive!
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  • FlyingwFlyingw Brantford Posts: 443
    NIGHT 2 Bump. Need to keep the dream alive of seeing PJ in Seattle. :D
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  • YLed2YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    demetrios wrote:
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

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    Still holding on with hope for a second night. It's GOT to happen!
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  • thefin190thefin190 Posts: 918
    YLed2 wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    smanchac1 wrote:
    We need night two!!!

    4c85a972-0752-495d-abbb-a70e850ee49a_zps3fe6478e.jpg

    Still holding on with hope for a second night. It's GOT to happen!

    I always thought that was Ed when he was in his short hair phase, but now looking closer, I suppose that looks more like Mike than Ed
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    ryanjp2323 wrote:
    keeping the pipe dream alive!

    :lol: :thumbup:
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    This Tuesday...PLEASE.

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  • ryanjp2323ryanjp2323 Posts: 562
    Just looked at DCU Center TM Interactive map for Worcester. A good number of seat left in the uppers, back side stage etc....

    Surly Key arena night two could sell equally as well? Likely better given a Saturday show would be the last of the tour leg.

    Would PJ management be disappointed with how Worcester #2 has sold? Effect on our pipe dream?

    keep dreaming faithful. :D
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