Its a shame ... I just ducked into the Tour page to see that only half the East coast tour is sold out ... and only Seattle of the West coast ... I cant believe it!!! :(
Its a shame ... I just ducked into the Tour page to see that only half the East coast tour is sold out ... and only Seattle of the West coast ... I cant believe it!!! :(
Surprises me too. The population on the West coast is alot smaller though (especially for the Canadian dates) with way less cities surrounding the dates they play.
I am attending the 1st Seattle show, so I plan on sleeping in the next morning and heading home on Sunday. I figure if they add a 2nd show on 12/7, great. I will try my best to get tickets. If they do a 2nd Seattle show, I think they should close out the US tour with an all acoustic show at a smaller venue. I think that would be a really special way to wind down the tour.
I honestly don't understand the people that complain about any performance. I could be happy to hear any song the band sings. :corn:
I am attending the 1st Seattle show, so I plan on sleeping in the next morning and heading home on Sunday. I figure if they add a 2nd show on 12/7, great. I will try my best to get tickets. If they do a 2nd Seattle show, I think they should close out the US tour with an all acoustic show at a smaller venue. I think that would be a really special way to wind down the tour.
I honestly don't understand the people that complain about any performance. I could be happy to hear any song the band sings. :corn:
I believe in miracles. 'Cuz I'm one...
I think a smaller venue show to close out the tour would cause a lot of backlash. They didn't have enough seats to fill the demand for an arena show let alone something of theater size.
On the flip side (which shows my gluttonous side) I completely banked on two shows. I just missed passing my CFA Level 1 in June. I can rewrite in December or June. PJ doesn't tour that often so I was willing to put it off for 6 months to see a few shows. I gambled on two. My procrastination is a harder pill to swallow if it's only for 1 show behind the stage (might have opted for calgary/spokane instead) or attempted my CFA that weekend. I guess gambling doesn't pay off all the time. It had been so long since PJ hadn't done back to backs in Seattle (and the person who leaked the dates was bang on with the night 1 date, and had posted a 2nd show the night after).
I wonder what the reason behind not doing a 2nd Seattle show would be? Was Eddie pretty disappointed by the crowd in 2009 that they don't want to do a 2nd show? I'd rather the band see it as a challenge to bring it even harder in 2013 rather than back down and scale it back?
I wonder what the reason behind not doing a 2nd Seattle show would be? Was Eddie pretty disappointed by the crowd in 2009 that they don't want to do a 2nd show? I'd rather the band see it as a challenge to bring it even harder in 2013 rather than back down and scale it back?
Not sure why no 2nd show. They know a 2nd Seattle will sell out. But they have 3 cities so far with 2 shows that did not sell out, and 4 of those shows being in areas that historically sell out very fast.
I think the 2009 shows suffered more from no one knowing the new album. I have a feeling the first 3-4 shows this fall will also be hurt by that.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Its a shame ... I just ducked into the Tour page to see that only half the East coast tour is sold out ... and only Seattle of the West coast ... I cant believe it!!! :(
It's not as bad as it looks. It's mostly just because of a few singles that are still available. The shows will be full come show time.... unless the scalpers overbought and end up taking a loss and leaving seats empty.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I am attending the 1st Seattle show, so I plan on sleeping in the next morning and heading home on Sunday. I figure if they add a 2nd show on 12/7, great. I will try my best to get tickets. If they do a 2nd Seattle show, I think they should close out the US tour with an all acoustic show at a smaller venue. I think that would be a really special way to wind down the tour.
I honestly don't understand the people that complain about any performance. I could be happy to hear any song the band sings. :corn:
I believe in miracles. 'Cuz I'm one...
I think a smaller venue show to close out the tour would cause a lot of backlash. They didn't have enough seats to fill the demand for an arena show let alone something of theater size.
On the flip side (which shows my gluttonous side) I completely banked on two shows. I just missed passing my CFA Level 1 in June. I can rewrite in December or June. PJ doesn't tour that often so I was willing to put it off for 6 months to see a few shows. I gambled on two. My procrastination is a harder pill to swallow if it's only for 1 show behind the stage (might have opted for calgary/spokane instead) or attempted my CFA that weekend. I guess gambling doesn't pay off all the time. It had been so long since PJ hadn't done back to backs in Seattle (and the person who leaked the dates was bang on with the night 1 date, and had posted a 2nd show the night after).
I wonder what the reason behind not doing a 2nd Seattle show would be? Was Eddie pretty disappointed by the crowd in 2009 that they don't want to do a 2nd show? I'd rather the band see it as a challenge to bring it even harder in 2013 rather than back down and scale it back?
Good luck with your CFA exam. Let me throw my 2cents in... take the CFA exam the sooner you can, as the information you've studied so hard will remain fresher and you will no doubt score higher than if you wait. Things have a way of working themselves out and you need to put your goals first.
I still think there will be two shows. Call it my spidey sense or maybe just wishful thinking, but I think there is still the possibility. :corn:
Anything is possible. And when you have no expectations, its all good.
Not sure why no 2nd show. They know a 2nd Seattle will sell out. But they have 3 cities so far with 2 shows that did not sell out, and 4 of those shows being in areas that historically sell out very fast.
I think the 2009 shows suffered more from no one knowing the new album. I have a feeling the first 3-4 shows this fall will also be hurt by that.
There was that. The band rehashed some of the encore stuff on the 2nd night (ie the Just Breathe/The End segment, and covering the Real Me). I thought night 2 was pretty solid but it lost me a bit in the encore. I think Seattle crowds are bit of a beast. The shows aren't just Seattlites. PJ fans come from everywhere to see PJ in their hometown. PJ's Mecca. If you're diehard enough to do that you've probably seen the band play a number of times already. It generally means the crowd knows when you've gone the extra mile and when you haven't. The best Seattle shows I've seen (specifically Seattle II '00 and Gorge '05) the band obviously went the extra mile and the crowd responded in kind.
Last year I saw Springsteen play in Vancouver and it was awesome. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Then I went onto the message board and the diehards picked it apart. Mostly because they'd seen the band play 20 or 30 times before and they are looking for the band to play things they never get to see. They want to see something new. I understood the argument because I think it's how I feel about PJ.
Now imagine an entire arena full of people like that. How hard would that be to play too. Can you get away with playing an average length set (just over 2 hours), repeating encore songs, and staying light on the rarities? I think Seattle shows have a higher bar because of who's in attendance (and arena full of people that have seen you play over and over again).
It's quite the challenge really, but I would hope the band wouldn't back away from it.
Good luck with your CFA exam. Let me throw my 2cents in... take the CFA exam the sooner you can, as the information you've studied so hard will remain fresher and you will no doubt score higher than if you wait. Things have a way of working themselves out and you need to put your goals first.
I still think there will be two shows. Call it my spidey sense or maybe just wishful thinking, but I think there is still the possibility. :corn:
Anything is possible. And when you have no expectations, its all good.
Yah it's almost too late now and I really needed a break from studying. I think I studied for 7 months (about an hour/day) before my first attempt. They only offer the June exams in the city i live in, so my other argument against doing it in December was that I had to travel. I suppose if there's no 2nd show I could write in Seattle.. probably a bad idea
I think when people start to benchmark and compare shows they start to have expectations. Expectations can sometimes lead to disappointments or resentments.
Art/music etc should just be accepted for what it is at any given moment in time. Don't compare.
Be grateful they have the time and energy to tour. Its all good.
Good luck with your CFA exam. Let me throw my 2cents in... take the CFA exam the sooner you can, as the information you've studied so hard will remain fresher and you will no doubt score higher than if you wait. Things have a way of working themselves out and you need to put your goals first.
I still think there will be two shows. Call it my spidey sense or maybe just wishful thinking, but I think there is still the possibility. :corn:
Anything is possible. And when you have no expectations, its all good.
Yah it's almost too late now and I really needed a break from studying. I think I studied for 7 months (about an hour/day) before my first attempt. They only offer the June exams in the city i live in, so my other argument against doing it in December was that I had to travel. I suppose if there's no 2nd show I could write in Seattle.. probably a bad idea
Don't forget, 2014 is a whole new year.... ya never know what the future holds, more shows in other parts of country? One can only dream :corn:
study, study, study! I know how hard those exams are, but discipline will get you there
I think when people start to benchmark and compare shows they start to have expectations. Expectations can sometimes lead to disappointments or resentments.
Art/music etc should just be accepted for what it is at any given moment in time. Don't compare.
Be grateful they have the time and energy to tour. Its all good.
I agree totally.... What I tend to pick apart is not the performance (unless it's notably terrible somehow), but the attitude of the crowd at any given show.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Don't forget, 2014 is a whole new year.... ya never know what the future holds, more shows in other parts of country? One can only dream :corn:
study, study, study! I know how hard those exams are, but discipline will get you there
Seattle/Vancouver are my hometown shows (as I live in Victoria which is sort of in the middle). Going to the shows in those cities is usually enough for me. I'm lucky that I don't have to travel too far to see my favorite band play.
Edit: Except maybe a single Seattle show could indicate they want to do something else next year (back to the Gorge maybe? ).
I think when people start to benchmark and compare shows they start to have expectations. Expectations can sometimes lead to disappointments or resentments.
Art/music etc should just be accepted for what it is at any given moment in time. Don't compare.
Be grateful they have the time and energy to tour. Its all good.
I agree totally.... What I tend to pick apart is not the performance (unless it's notably terrible somehow), but the attitude of the crowd at any given show.
Well I will be seeing my first show on 10/15, so I am sure I will love the performance no matter what. Heck they could sing the same song over and over and I'd still be happy. I will be sure to observe the crowd at some point, lol. But I will be there to sing my heart out and enjoy the show. I cannot wait. I don't think I've ever been so excited to see a concert, ever.
Not sure why no 2nd show. They know a 2nd Seattle will sell out. But they have 3 cities so far with 2 shows that did not sell out, and 4 of those shows being in areas that historically sell out very fast.
I think the 2009 shows suffered more from no one knowing the new album. I have a feeling the first 3-4 shows this fall will also be hurt by that.
There was that. The band rehashed some of the encore stuff on the 2nd night (ie the Just Breathe/The End segment, and covering the Real Me). I thought night 2 was pretty solid but it lost me a bit in the encore. I think Seattle crowds are bit of a beast. The shows aren't just Seattlites. PJ fans come from everywhere to see PJ in their hometown. PJ's Mecca. If you're diehard enough to do that you've probably seen the band play a number of times already. It generally means the crowd knows when you've gone the extra mile and when you haven't. The best Seattle shows I've seen (specifically Seattle II '00 and Gorge '05) the band obviously went the extra mile and the crowd responded in kind.
Last year I saw Springsteen play in Vancouver and it was awesome. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Then I went onto the message board and the diehards picked it apart. Mostly because they'd seen the band play 20 or 30 times before and they are looking for the band to play things they never get to see. They want to see something new. I understood the argument because I think it's how I feel about PJ.
Now imagine an entire arena full of people like that. How hard would that be to play too. Can you get away with playing an average length set (just over 2 hours), repeating encore songs, and staying light on the rarities? I think Seattle shows have a higher bar because of who's in attendance (and arena full of people that have seen you play over and over again).
It's quite the challenge really, but I would hope the band wouldn't back away from it.
I agree with you. Its funny, because they seem to draw the same hard core type to the NYC shows, but the energy is almost always there. But if they started this tour in NYC, I would expect a more subdued crowd if no one knew the new songs. Back in 2009 I think it was more the combination of it being the first 2 shows (where they are usually just warming up anyway on a tour) and the fact that no one knowing the new songs at the time really hurt. If they had ended with Seattle instead of starting with it, I think there would have been a big difference in the crowd.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Not sure why no 2nd show. They know a 2nd Seattle will sell out. But they have 3 cities so far with 2 shows that did not sell out, and 4 of those shows being in areas that historically sell out very fast.
I think the 2009 shows suffered more from no one knowing the new album. I have a feeling the first 3-4 shows this fall will also be hurt by that.
There was that. The band rehashed some of the encore stuff on the 2nd night (ie the Just Breathe/The End segment, and covering the Real Me). I thought night 2 was pretty solid but it lost me a bit in the encore. I think Seattle crowds are bit of a beast. The shows aren't just Seattlites. PJ fans come from everywhere to see PJ in their hometown. PJ's Mecca. If you're diehard enough to do that you've probably seen the band play a number of times already. It generally means the crowd knows when you've gone the extra mile and when you haven't. The best Seattle shows I've seen (specifically Seattle II '00 and Gorge '05) the band obviously went the extra mile and the crowd responded in kind.
Last year I saw Springsteen play in Vancouver and it was awesome. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Then I went onto the message board and the diehards picked it apart. Mostly because they'd seen the band play 20 or 30 times before and they are looking for the band to play things they never get to see. They want to see something new. I understood the argument because I think it's how I feel about PJ.
Now imagine an entire arena full of people like that. How hard would that be to play too. Can you get away with playing an average length set (just over 2 hours), repeating encore songs, and staying light on the rarities? I think Seattle shows have a higher bar because of who's in attendance (and arena full of people that have seen you play over and over again).
It's quite the challenge really, but I would hope the band wouldn't back away from it.
I agree with you. Its funny, because they seem to draw the same hard core type to the NYC shows, but the energy is almost always there. But if they started this tour in NYC, I would expect a more subdued crowd if no one knew the new songs. Back in 2009 I think it was more the combination of it being the first 2 shows (where they are usually just warming up anyway on a tour) and the fact that no one knowing the new songs at the time really hurt. If they had ended with Seattle instead of starting with it, I think there would have been a big difference in the crowd.
Just about all crowds at any show are more subdued on the West Coast unfortunately, or at least in Vancouver and Seattle. Not sure why that is, but it is. Something about the general attitude of people out here. :(
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Just about all crowds at any show are more subdued on the West Coast unfortunately, or at least in Vancouver and Seattle. Not sure why that is, but it is. Something about the general attitude of people out here. :(
I look at it differently. I think bands have to try harder out here.
I agree that West Coast crowds are subdued, but all the time's I've seen PJ in Vancouver they have really gotten the crowd excited. '98, '03, '05 (probably the loudest one I remember), and '09. Even '11 was pretty good but not like the others (apparently because of a few people up front.. and it was in the crappy arena.. ).
Seattle has been more 50/50. Seattle II '98 was bat shit crazy Seattle II '00 was pretty epic, Seattle '02 was pretty good, Gorge '05 was epic, Gorge I '06 was much louder than Gorge II.. and then there was the '09 shows
Conclusion: The west coast is a bit more mellow but it doesn't mean your destined to fail, it just means you have to try harder
Just about all crowds at any show are more subdued on the West Coast unfortunately, or at least in Vancouver and Seattle. Not sure why that is, but it is. Something about the general attitude of people out here. :(
I look at it differently. I think bands have to try harder out here.
I agree that West Coast crowds are subdued, but all the time's I've seen PJ in Vancouver they have really gotten the crowd excited. '98, '03, '05 (probably the loudest one I remember), and '09. Even '11 was pretty good but not like the others (apparently because of a few people up front.. and it was in the crappy arena.. ).
Seattle has been more 50/50. Seattle II '98 was bat shit crazy Seattle II '00 was pretty epic, Seattle '02 was pretty good, Gorge '05 was epic, Gorge I '06 was much louder than Gorge II.. and then there was the '09 shows
Conclusion: The west coast is a bit more mellow but it doesn't mean your destined to fail, it just means you have to try harder
True.... And it's not ALL crowds. I find that the skids really know how to enjoy a show. Judas Priest and KISS were great crowds. What I am hoping is that this trend changes, as it does. Crowds here used to be good back in the 90s. The 2000s brought subdued crowds... almost like everyone decided they were too cool to really get into it or something. :fp: But maybe that time is passing now, and people will go back to being fun again. I agree that bands need to try as hard as they can ALL the time of course .... but I have been to shows where no matter what they did, most of the crowd was just being lame because of the so-called "Pacific Chill". However, PJ fans are good fans. Sure, of course the crowds were alright at a lot of the PJ shows. But.... not like in NYC or whatever I bet.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
What was the seattle 2009 crowd like? I always assumed seattle would be their fav show cuz of hometown crowds that I imagined would rock so hard. Are they like obnoxious to eddie or something?
Quite the opposite. Seattle doesn't get very loud at all. We're too cool :geek:
Hometown audiences can be rather spoiled, plus they're bigger elsewhere than they are in Seattle IMHO. Mellower indie music, dance rock and Macklemore are the preferred music selections of the 15-30 crowd nowadays.
Now we are missing the biggest point here.
Seattle 2009 were 9-21 and 9-22. Backspacer was released 9-20.
The reason the crowds sucked was because night one they played 8 songs from backspacer and night two they played 7 songs from backspacer.
Night one suffered very much from this. The crowd didn't know the songs, and were not into that many new songs. They tried to fix it somewhat night two, but still suffered the same fate.
I worry that the first 4 shows will suffer the same fate this tour...
So don't blame it all on the Seattle crowd. I saw foo fighters at key arena in 2008 and Sasquatch festival at the gorge in 2009. The crowds were not bad. Not like NY, but not terrible.
Again it's partially the bands fault for the bad crowds in 2009. Seeing as its the end of the tour this time I believe it will be much better this time around.
9-21-2009 Seattle 1
Long Road
Corduroy
Gonna See My Friend
(premiere: first time ever)
Got Some
Hail Hail
Amongst the Waves
(premiere: first time ever)
Daughter
Even Flow
Johnny Guitar
(premiere: first time ever)
Unthought Known
(premiere: first time ever)
World Wide Suicide
Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
Off He Goes
Down
Save You
The Fixer
Life Wasted
Encore:
Just Breathe
(premiere: first time ever)
The End
(premiere: first time ever)
Inside Job
Rearviewmirror
Encore 2:
Given to Fly
Do the Evolution
Better Man
The Real Me
Indifference
Alive
Note: Pearl Jam premiered 5 songs from Backspacer tonight (though Eddie Vedder had performed Unthought Known and Just Breathe during solo shows).
9-22-2009 Seattle 2
Sometimes
Why Go
All Night
The Fixer
Dissident
Johnny Guitar
Faithfull
Lukin
Not for You
No Way
(first time in 2009)
Unthought Known
Unemployable
Comatose
Insignificance
Present Tense
Got Some
Go
Encore:
Just Breathe
The End
Black
In My Tree
Spin the Black Circle
Encore 2:
Supersonic
(sung as "SuperSonics" with … more)
Do the Evolution
The Real Me
Porch
Yellow Ledbetter
(with Star Spangled Banner ending)
Note: First show since August 2, 2007, without both Even Flow and Alive being played.
Tons of people coming in from not only the entire U.S., but from all over the world for the Seattle show. The LAST show of the tour (where they always bring it and are the tightest and have some of their best shows), and in SEATTLE falling on a weekend. The crowd will definitely bring it.
Second show bump.
Bristow, VA - 5.13.10
East Troy, WI - 9.3.11
East Troy, WI - 9.4.11
Atlanta, GA - 9.22.12
Las Vegas, NV - 10.31.12 (EV)
Las Vegas, NV - 11.1.12 (EV)
Chicago, IL - 7.19.13
Dallas, TX - 11.15.13
Oklahoma City, OK - 11.16.13
Seattle, WA - 12.6.13
Lincoln, NE - 10.9.14
Moline, IL - 10.17.14
St. Paul, MN - 10.19.14
Milwaukee, WI - 10.20.14
New York, NY - 5.1.16
New York, NY - 5.2.16
Boston, MA - 8.5.16
Boston, MA - 8.7.16
Chicago, IL - 8.20.16
Tons of people coming in from not only the entire U.S., but from all over the world for the Seattle show. The LAST show of the tour (where they always bring it and are the tightest and have some of their best shows), and in SEATTLE falling on a weekend. The crowd will definitely bring it.
Agreed... the show falling on the 7th would be epic.. as you still have Sunday the 8th to recouperate before flying back out or going to work. Im so excited for it..... it just makes sense.
Agreed... the show falling on the 7th would be epic.. as you still have Sunday the 8th to recouperate before flying back out or going to work. Im so excited for it..... it just makes sense.
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Surprises me too. The population on the West coast is alot smaller though (especially for the Canadian dates) with way less cities surrounding the dates they play.
I honestly don't understand the people that complain about any performance. I could be happy to hear any song the band sings. :corn:
I believe in miracles. 'Cuz I'm one...
I think a smaller venue show to close out the tour would cause a lot of backlash. They didn't have enough seats to fill the demand for an arena show let alone something of theater size.
On the flip side (which shows my gluttonous side) I completely banked on two shows. I just missed passing my CFA Level 1 in June. I can rewrite in December or June. PJ doesn't tour that often so I was willing to put it off for 6 months to see a few shows. I gambled on two. My procrastination is a harder pill to swallow if it's only for 1 show behind the stage (might have opted for calgary/spokane instead) or attempted my CFA that weekend. I guess gambling doesn't pay off all the time. It had been so long since PJ hadn't done back to backs in Seattle (and the person who leaked the dates was bang on with the night 1 date, and had posted a 2nd show the night after).
I wonder what the reason behind not doing a 2nd Seattle show would be? Was Eddie pretty disappointed by the crowd in 2009 that they don't want to do a 2nd show? I'd rather the band see it as a challenge to bring it even harder in 2013 rather than back down and scale it back?
Not sure why no 2nd show. They know a 2nd Seattle will sell out. But they have 3 cities so far with 2 shows that did not sell out, and 4 of those shows being in areas that historically sell out very fast.
I think the 2009 shows suffered more from no one knowing the new album. I have a feeling the first 3-4 shows this fall will also be hurt by that.
Good luck with your CFA exam. Let me throw my 2cents in... take the CFA exam the sooner you can, as the information you've studied so hard will remain fresher and you will no doubt score higher than if you wait. Things have a way of working themselves out and you need to put your goals first.
I still think there will be two shows. Call it my spidey sense
Anything is possible. And when you have no expectations, its all good.
There was that. The band rehashed some of the encore stuff on the 2nd night (ie the Just Breathe/The End segment, and covering the Real Me). I thought night 2 was pretty solid but it lost me a bit in the encore. I think Seattle crowds are bit of a beast. The shows aren't just Seattlites. PJ fans come from everywhere to see PJ in their hometown. PJ's Mecca. If you're diehard enough to do that you've probably seen the band play a number of times already. It generally means the crowd knows when you've gone the extra mile and when you haven't. The best Seattle shows I've seen (specifically Seattle II '00 and Gorge '05) the band obviously went the extra mile and the crowd responded in kind.
Last year I saw Springsteen play in Vancouver and it was awesome. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Then I went onto the message board and the diehards picked it apart. Mostly because they'd seen the band play 20 or 30 times before and they are looking for the band to play things they never get to see. They want to see something new. I understood the argument because I think it's how I feel about PJ.
Now imagine an entire arena full of people like that. How hard would that be to play too. Can you get away with playing an average length set (just over 2 hours), repeating encore songs, and staying light on the rarities? I think Seattle shows have a higher bar because of who's in attendance (and arena full of people that have seen you play over and over again).
It's quite the challenge really, but I would hope the band wouldn't back away from it.
Yah it's almost too late now and I really needed a break from studying. I think I studied for 7 months (about an hour/day) before my first attempt. They only offer the June exams in the city i live in, so my other argument against doing it in December was that I had to travel. I suppose if there's no 2nd show I could write in Seattle.. probably a bad idea
Art/music etc should just be accepted for what it is at any given moment in time. Don't compare.
Be grateful they have the time and energy to tour. Its all good.
Don't forget, 2014 is a whole new year.... ya never know what the future holds, more shows in other parts of country? One can only dream :corn:
study, study, study! I know how hard those exams are, but discipline will get you there
Seattle/Vancouver are my hometown shows (as I live in Victoria which is sort of in the middle). Going to the shows in those cities is usually enough for me. I'm lucky that I don't have to travel too far to see my favorite band play.
Edit: Except maybe a single Seattle show could indicate they want to do something else next year (back to the Gorge maybe?
Well I will be seeing my first show on 10/15, so I am sure I will love the performance no matter what. Heck they could sing the same song over and over and I'd still be happy. I will be sure to observe the crowd at some point, lol. But I will be there to sing my heart out and enjoy the show. I cannot wait. I don't think I've ever been so excited to see a concert, ever.
I agree with you. Its funny, because they seem to draw the same hard core type to the NYC shows, but the energy is almost always there. But if they started this tour in NYC, I would expect a more subdued crowd if no one knew the new songs. Back in 2009 I think it was more the combination of it being the first 2 shows (where they are usually just warming up anyway on a tour) and the fact that no one knowing the new songs at the time really hurt. If they had ended with Seattle instead of starting with it, I think there would have been a big difference in the crowd.
I look at it differently. I think bands have to try harder out here.
I agree that West Coast crowds are subdued, but all the time's I've seen PJ in Vancouver they have really gotten the crowd excited. '98, '03, '05 (probably the loudest one I remember), and '09. Even '11 was pretty good but not like the others (apparently because of a few people up front.. and it was in the crappy arena..
Seattle has been more 50/50. Seattle II '98 was bat shit crazy
Conclusion: The west coast is a bit more mellow but it doesn't mean your destined to fail, it just means you have to try harder
Here's what I said before..
I did just book my flight back to NorCal for Sunday the 8th ... so, expect a show announcement for the night of the 8th anytime now.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Second show bump.
East Troy, WI - 9.3.11
East Troy, WI - 9.4.11
Atlanta, GA - 9.22.12
Las Vegas, NV - 10.31.12 (EV)
Las Vegas, NV - 11.1.12 (EV)
Chicago, IL - 7.19.13
Dallas, TX - 11.15.13
Oklahoma City, OK - 11.16.13
Seattle, WA - 12.6.13
Lincoln, NE - 10.9.14
Moline, IL - 10.17.14
St. Paul, MN - 10.19.14
Milwaukee, WI - 10.20.14
New York, NY - 5.1.16
New York, NY - 5.2.16
Boston, MA - 8.5.16
Boston, MA - 8.7.16
Chicago, IL - 8.20.16
Booked my return flight to Milwaukee on the 8th. Bring on Seattle 2!
It is always possible.
This!
www.amazingathletes.com/northchi
We'll see about night 2 - they havent said they wont do it yet!
Totally agree!
Please do it for the fans!