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  • PU38569
    PU38569 Posts: 260
    PU38569 wrote:
    STAYSEA wrote:
    The wrath of me? LMFAO.
    seriously? Won't happen. are y'all joking?

    Am I scary? :shock:

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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    I don't get the "hate" for this album. I love it. Loved it within the first few listens. I had been through some sad shit with losing a friend right before it came out, and then lost two more not long after it was out, so maybe I tend to tie it to that. And the upbeat, fun nature of this album really helped me.
    Have a few lines from Unthought Known tattooed on me in memory to one of these friends.

    I loved that they branched out and went "poppy" with some of it. I think The End is one of the deepest songs they've ever released, and I don't care if it sounds like it should be on an E.V. solo record.
    Same with Just Breathe, that song holds a very special place in my heart and always will.

    I love each album for what it is... moving forward.

    Thought the S.T. album was amazing, ED and Matt own that fuckin' thing from start to finish, and think
    it has some of the most interesting guitar parts of any PJ record.

    I remember when Binaural came out and people were trashing it saying "It's not a PJ album".
    But now people are dying to hear songs from this album live.

    I've loved every album they've put out, they are one of the few bands that i'm never over critical of, because i'm all about the over all journey they are taking me on.

    I'm game for anything they give me. (except Sweet Lew) ;)
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  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    the wolf wrote:
    I don't get the "hate" for this album. I love it. Loved it within the first few listens. I had been through some sad shit with losing a friend right before it came out, and then lost two more not long after it was out, so maybe I tend to tie it to that. And the upbeat, fun nature of this album really helped me.
    Have a few lines from Unthought Known tattooed on me in memory to one of these friends.

    I loved that they branched out and went "poppy" with some of it. I think The End is one of the deepest songs they've ever released, and I don't care if it sounds like it should be on an E.V. solo record.
    Same with Just Breathe, that song holds a very special place in my heart and always will.

    I love each album for what it is... moving forward.

    Thought the S.T. album was amazing, ED and Matt own that fuckin' thing from start to finish, and think
    it has some of the most interesting guitar parts of any PJ record.

    I remember when Binaural came out and people were trashing it saying "It's not a PJ album".
    But now people are dying to hear songs from this album live.

    I've loved every album they've put out, they are one of the few bands that i'm never over critical of, because i'm all about the over all journey they are taking me on.

    I'm game for anything they give me. (except Sweet Lew) ;)
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  • smanchac1
    smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    PU38569 wrote:
    PU38569 wrote:
    Backspacer was the "hey I want to be popular again" album that flopped.

    PS whatever happened to the 'jam' part?? It's like they are always rushing through their songs now just so they can fulfill an OCD need to play a diverse set list...

    The better live shows to this day still had fewer songs, longer songs, more passionate songs.

    Anyone else feel like they're just blurting it out fast and moving on to the next one...?

    Evenflow used to be like a funk groove song, now it's like listening to Japanese people arguing in fast forward.

    People play fast when they are nervous. Or just running through the motions. What's the deal? Where's the feeling?

    I remember rearviewmirror at MSG at the end of the last tour having like a 12 second jam to it. No heart. It was embarassing. Where's the part where you channel out the bad stuff and put it in the rearviewmirror again? Where's the anything, again?

    Backspacer seems to epitomize this approach. Let's just rip it out and pat ourselves on the back and get on to the next one. The set list collectors would rather hear 17 2 minute renditions than 2 17 minute renditions. But that's how it used to be.

    I really really really really hope the next album is something worth hanging on to.

    Maybe we need a drummer change again to rekindle some flame? Matt Cameron's skills are so much better showcased with soundgarden. PJ are entitled to get old, and get interested in a different sound, but so then maybe they can get someone who is more tailored for boring, cutsie wootsie wuss punk rhythms and free up Matt Cameron and Soundgarden to save rock humanity?

    I really like the new soundgarden album. It reminds me of the whole point of this mess which is to kick a lot of ass.

    The only line I agreed with was replace matt Cameron.

    Really, you don't hope the next album is something worth hanging on to?

    :wave:

    That's so anti-PJ. Why are you so anti-PJ??? BACKSPACer RULED!!!!

    "oooo oooo gonna fix it up ooo ooo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeeeeaaaah gonna fix it up again ooo oooo ooooooooo bono is my new best friend yeah yeah yeaaaaaahhhhhh fix it up yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I love me now!"

    :crazy:

    How can everyone see this and not say anything??!

    You obviously don't know the song that your hating on so much. The lyrics never say gonna fix it up again.. ANYWHERE! It just shows your ignorance.

    My feelings on backspacer is this - it's a lazy effort. The songs from that album kill the energy of a live show.

    That doesn't mean there arent some good songs there.

    I love
    Got some
    Unthought Known

    I enjoy
    The fixer
    Just breathe
    The end
    Force of nature

    Speed of sound solo was great, sucks on backspacer. I'm a drummer and the 3/4 swing country beat ruins that song.

    Songs that are terrible and show by lack of live plays.

    Amongst the waves - played a lot but kills the energy every time I've seen it.
    Gonna see my friend - listen to the intro then play goo goo dolls biggest album, same guitar part intro...
    Johnny guitar - lyrics are terrible and admitted by Ed in an interview to be written on the toilet at the studio, looking a pictures on the bathroom door.
    Supersonic - pj isn't a punk band or a pop band... Why they mixed the two ill never know.

    I say this but enjoy riot act the most. So to each his own.

    We shouldn't say it sucks because I might love it and you might hate it. Seems that every album has this problem except ten, vs, and yield. Anything else is very debatable.
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    its got some of pjs best songs on imo
    Force of Nature
    Unthought Known
    the end
    Amongst The Waves
    Just Breathe
    these song like the likes of betterman and LBC ,release will stand the test of time .
  • I love Backspacer, listen to it all the time, and think it kicks ass. So there....
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  • javis el errante
    javis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,147
    I could never say that, not even if my life was at risk, there are some things you just can't say...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • Stinkfoot
    Stinkfoot Posts: 546
    The only thing that should have been changed about BS is replacing Speed of Sound with the demo.
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  • Gmoney
    Gmoney Posts: 1,618
    this album sounds like they're having a midlife crisis... they are so talented as a band that some good songs came out of it, but as a cohesive album, its not up to PJ standards. There is no mystique to Backspacer.
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    Still better than the Riot Act debacle
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  • Tangerine
    Tangerine Posts: 880
    I like BS. Not sure where the hate would come from. I honestly can say I don't "hate" any of their albums. There's ones I prefer over others, Yield will always be #1 for me but I can always find something good about every album they've put out. There are songs on every album I don't care for (with the exception of Ten which was perfect), but I think BS was just as good as any other album that came out in the same year.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,458
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Backspacer is awesome.. anyone that disagrees can suck it.. have a nice day :D
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  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    if you haven't done this yet, and would like to...
    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=204749 :)


    And I don't know any people named sea, seacide, staysea, staci, staysee, or stacey on the forums.?

    (that is the reason I had to use uppercase letters)
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  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    october22 wrote:
    PU38569 wrote:
    I agree.

    I thought jack irons was a great fit, too bad he couldn't keep the touring pace. That carpal tunnel can be a real B.

    Yep, yep

    But honestly, at this point I'm just trying to avoid STAYSEA's wrath.


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  • Dirty Frankk
    Dirty Frankk Posts: 4,274
    [quote="jonbond1779"

    If Of the Earth are anything to judge by, my hopes are not too high for the next album...

    [/quote]

    If they don't put this track on the record it's not going to be a good one....that is the best song writen in the decade if not longer.
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  • tallman72
    tallman72 Posts: 353
    i love Backspacer, i love each and every one of there albums all in different ways.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 32,037
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  • I love the album.
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  • PU38569
    PU38569 Posts: 260
    That's so anti-PJ. Why are you so anti-PJ??? BACKSPACer RULED!!!!

    "oooo oooo gonna fix it up ooo ooo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeeeeaaaah gonna fix it up again ooo oooo ooooooooo bono is my new best friend yeah yeah yeaaaaaahhhhhh fix it up yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I love me now!"

    :crazy:[/quote]

    How can everyone see this and not say anything??!

    You obviously don't know the song that your hating on so much. The lyrics never say gonna fix it up again.. ANYWHERE! It just shows your ignorance.[/quote]

    You're joking right? ... :fp: I was making fun of the lyrics.... Duh. :fp: :fp: :fp:

    But we really have a bigger issue here; which is that you chose to single out "fix it up again" as opposed to "bono is my new best friend". Amazing. :mrgreen:
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