Oscar Pistorius

dimitrispearljam wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

he says he accidently shot his girlfriend...



another responsible gun owner...

i didnt even thought of that..yeah...there are so many responsible gun owners out there

atleast there is the a good thing for him
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=204507

now now guys.. he thought she was an intruder. :oops:

His story is so implausible ... I'm shocked that his lawyers let him release that.

It looks like the South African version of the OJ Simpson prosecution team has been assembled. On day 1 the lead detective agreed with the defense that they didn’t have real evidence. And on day 2 one of his key witnesses that heard screaming leading up to the shooting was actually four blocks away.

http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/8965442/lead-oscar-pistorius-cop-offers-confusing-testimony

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

His story is so implausible ... I'm shocked that his lawyers let him release that.

i guess by disclosing that, he might be facing the max of whatever is equivalent to manslaughter here in the us, as opposed to first or second degree murder. it might be a smart move by the defense attorneys, because at this point i think their main goal is to avoid the maximum sentence, and if south africa has the death penalty, they are gonna want to try to avoid that....

Yeah, but if even one shred of physical evidence contradicts his story in any way, he's hooped. He is just stuck with this shitty story now, no matter what the evidence turns up. Seems like a strange legal decision to me at this stage of the game.

catefrances wrote:

was it just a valentines surprise gone seriously wrong?

what was reeva doing in the bathroom?

where within the house is this bathroom located?

why didnt she identify herself if oscar 'mistook' her for a stranger?

did oscar not warn the 'intruder' that he had a gun?

was reeva unaware that her boyfriend kept a gun at his house?

was oscar in bed when the 'intruder' entered the house?

and if so how much time did he have to strap his blades on? or was he wearing them in bed? if so, is it usual for him to do so?

is there a checkpoint at the entrance of the gated community in which oscar lives? and if so is it manned and is there a record of what time reeva entered the compound?

His affidavit answers a lot of these questions.

PJ_Soul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

was it just a valentines surprise gone seriously wrong?

what was reeva doing in the bathroom?

where within the house is this bathroom located?

why didnt she identify herself if oscar 'mistook' her for a stranger?

did oscar not warn the 'intruder' that he had a gun?

was reeva unaware that her boyfriend kept a gun at his house?

was oscar in bed when the 'intruder' entered the house?

and if so how much time did he have to strap his blades on? or was he wearing them in bed? if so, is it usual for him to do so?

is there a checkpoint at the entrance of the gated community in which oscar lives? and if so is it manned and is there a record of what time reeva entered the compound?

His affidavit answers a lot of these questions.

and what did he say? when exactly did he realise the person he shot several times wasnt an intruder but in fact his girlfriend?

PJ_Soul wrote:

Oh god, it's so stupid. He says he thought she was still in bed, so shot wildly into the bathroom without even checking or asking if it was her in there or anything. :roll: He said he realized it was her only after he shot her, obviously, and that she died in his arms. He said he didn't have his legs on... just that he heard someone in the bathroom and immediately decided to kill whoever was in the there, assuming 100% that it was an intruder, without even considering that it might be his girlfriend... who he.... thought was still in bed right next to him. :fp:

he thought reeva was in bed next to him? didnt he check for sure knowing there was an intruder in the house? he didnt have his legs on? did he crawl to the bathroom door? well ballistics will be able to determine that.

PJ_Soul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Oh god, it's so stupid. He says he thought she was still in bed, so shot wildly into the bathroom without even checking or asking if it was her in there or anything. :roll: He said he realized it was her only after he shot her, obviously, and that she died in his arms. He said he didn't have his legs on... just that he heard someone in the bathroom and immediately decided to kill whoever was in the there, assuming 100% that it was an intruder, without even considering that it might be his girlfriend... who he.... thought was still in bed right next to him. :fp:

he thought reeva was in bed next to him? didnt he check for sure knowing there was an intruder in the house? he didnt have his legs on? did he crawl to the bathroom door? well ballistics will be able to determine that.

No, he didn't fucking check if she was next to him. He said he just assumed. It is a REALLY bad story! It sounded like he either shot from the bed or got there without the legs on. That part wasn't quite clear, but he did say specifically that he didn't have legs. It wasn't even quite clear if he shot her through the actual door or just through the doorway. Obviously, if there are bullet holes in the door, we'll know the answer to that (it would help his story a lot if he shot through the actual door... it would also make him seem like an even bigger stupid fucking idiot).

aah so from that i gather after he shot the 'intruder' he dragged himself(without his blades) to the bathroom to see his handiwork. did he leave the gun behind? or did he take it with him in order if need be he had to finish the job? i cant imagine mistaking my lover for an intruder if they were standing in an open doorway. surely hed seen reeva in that light before?

hmm not an especially good move to just shoot from the bed if that was the case. what exactly did he think an intruder was doing in his bathroom?? if im sleeping with someone and i hear a noise i assume its them. and i assume theyre either taking a midnight tinkle or raiding the fridge for water. i dont assume the noise is an intruder. i come to that conclusion only after ive ascertained whether or not im in bed alone. aah so from that i gather after he shot the 'intruder' he dragged himself(without his blades) to the bathroom to see his handiwork.

Whilst Pistorius's lawyers were tearing the prosecution's witness to shreds due to 'first impression' errors, Pistorius's story just doesn't stand up to scrutiny either. Amongst other really flippant things:

(Remember, it's pitch black, he has limited mobility on his stumps but....)

"I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help. I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must then have turned on the lights."

So... limited mobility to get to the balcony door to bathroom/toilet (via wherever to find his gun) to shoot the intruder but 'rushing' back. Pitch black (so even not seeing his girlfriend is not in the bed) but managing to find his prosthetic legs and putting them on before switching the light on.

Obviously, there is a lot being said right now but some parts of his 'statement' beggars belief. What is coming out is just bits and pieces of facts, sometimes misunderstood/misrepresented. Forensics have not all be done, etc. There is speculation that, should he had really been on his stumps to shoot through the toilet door, the trajectory of the bullet would have been different, etc.

A more accurate picture will emerge in the next days/weeks, etc. but all this is very murky - especially with his past 'domestics'.

However, someone mentioned OJ - yep.. I think we might be in for the same kind of sensationalist trial when the time comes.