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:thumbup:josevolution wrote:Education on birth control should start at home by the parents ..
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josevolution wrote:Education on birth control should start at home by the parents ..
I have two teens at home boy & girl
My daughter is on birthcontrol pills does this mean she's out screwing all her boy friends , no !
Me and my son had the talk about every aspect of sex i covered all bases ....
You should be held up as a model for many many parents in this country
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...cincybearcat wrote:Cosmo wrote:You know how you end abortion?
You avoid unwanted pregnancies.
You know how to avoid unwanted pregnancies?
Education.
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Have another rally and collect 10 bucks from everyone there, then, take that $6,000,000.00 and put it towards educating people between the ages of 13 and 21 that there are servere consequences to fucking without a condom.
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Problem solved.
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Next problem...
Let me ask you a question (I do agree with your sentiment by the way)... what kind of education is needed?
Basically, for the young kids... that what we see on televisions... like 'Teen Mom' is not real and is definately not cool. That childbirth is a real game changer that thwarts a ton of opportunities, such as college, careers, marriage, etc... and is at minimum, an 18 year long commitment.
That babies are NOT pets. That babies do not guarantee automatic love (ask the parents of the Menendez brothers). That you can't sit out in front of the supermarket with your baby in a box, looking for someone to adopt it.
For the older kids... there are consequences tied to fucking. That people aren't against kids fucking... because we all know, that all kids think about... fucking. Just do it with protection to avoid an 18 year commitment and the loss of possibilities.
For the parents... quit perpetuating the cycle. You don't want to be 57 and have to care for your stupid kid's baby. Make your stupid fucking kid own up to HIS/HER responsibility for THEIR poor decision making.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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cincybearcat wrote:You think most unwanted pregnancies stem from people not knowing about condoms, etc?
I don't think that. I KNOW that.
Mississippi continues to have the highest teen birth rate, with 55 births per 1,000 girls. New Hampshire has the lowest rate at just under 16 births per 1,000 girls.
Mississippi does not require sex education in schools, but when it is taught, abstinence-only education is the state standard. New Hampshire, on the other hand, requires comprehensive sex education in schools that includes abstinence and information about condoms and contraception.
Researchers at the University of Washington in Seattle found that teenagers who received some type of comprehensive sex education were 60 percent less likely to get pregnant or get someone else pregnant. And in 2007, a federal report showed that abstinence-only programs had “no impacts on rates of sexual abstinence.”
Additionally, research showed that abstinence-only strategies could deter contraceptive use among teenagers, thus increasing their risk of unintended pregnancy. (link)I think this is true for a small portion of the population, but not most.
And you'd be wrong.People always blame a lack of knowing when most of the time it's a lack of applying the knowledge you have.
What part of "Abstinence Only" do you not understand? They don't HAVE the knowledge to APPLY. They don't UNDERSTAND how to prevent pregnancy because they aren't TAUGHT how it's done. They are only taught to not have sex.
And as someone who actually finished high school, I can tell you that telling teenagers not to have sex is about as effective as telling a bear not to shit in the woods.0 -
josevolution wrote:Education on birth control should start at home by the parents ..
And dollar bills should fly out of my ass, but aside from that time in Vegas after I fell on.... wel.... you don't want to know about that.
The point is that many parents don't even know that stuff. Many teenagers are taught to be ashamed of sex while they're also taught to go out and use sex as power by TV.
When you say you covered all the bases, did you tell him the different ways HIV can be transmitted and how to tell at a glance the difference between a heat rash, poison ivy and the first stages of syphilis?
Cuz sometimes you have to know that when you meet someone at a camp ground.
Just saying.0 -
Prince Of Dorkness wrote:josevolution wrote:Education on birth control should start at home by the parents ..
And dollar bills should fly out of my ass, but aside from that time in Vegas after I fell on.... wel.... you don't want to know about that.
The point is that many parents don't even know that stuff. Many teenagers are taught to be ashamed of sex while they're also taught to go out and use sex as power by TV.
When you say you covered all the bases, did you tell him the different ways HIV can be transmitted and how to tell at a glance the difference between a heat rash, poison ivy and the first stages of syphilis?
Cuz sometimes you have to know that when you meet someone at a camp ground.
Just saying.
Seriously? Are you really trying to prove your point with verifiable and reliable facts and figures?
Not to mention common sense? 0 -
...cincybearcat wrote:You think most unwanted pregnancies stem from people not knowing about condoms, etc?
I think this is true for a small portion of the population, but not most. That is why when people talk about education being the solution, while I think it can help, I don't believe it will solve the majority of the problems. People always blame a lack of knowing when most of the time it's a lack of applying the knowledge you have.
it is not just the use of condoms... it is education in general regarding sex and the massive size of the consequences. Fear does not work. I think a heavy dose of reality would do a better job.
If kids were not able to palm their kids off to their parents to raise... that would help. Faced with the responsibility of another human being is much greater than trying to keep a cat or a dog. Kids need to figure out at a relatively early age that 18 years is a long fucking time and that they give up a lot of their freedoms to live as kids and young adults when they have kids of their own.
We were all kids art one time. and as adults, we have come to know one certain truth... all kids are dumbfucks. They think they know it all and they are certain they know a lot more than you and me... but, the fact remains... they don't know shit.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Access to and education about the proper and consistent use of contraception is one of the main ingredients when trying to prevent unintended pregnancies. I'm always amazed how much misinformation is out there (women who think they only need to take the pill on days they plan to have sex, men who think doubling up on a condom is a good idea, etc). Even if people have access to these methods, if they don't have information about how to use them correctly, they're not going to be very effective. It's also really important that there are as many safe options as possible, so people can choose the method that best fits their lifestyle (not everyone will remember to take a pill at the same time every day or realizes how important this is or how even herbal remedies can impact their effectiveness) and will have the fewest side effects. Common sense tells us that consistent and proper use of contraception is going to decrease the numbers of unintended pregnancies, and the research from the Guttmacher Institute supports this:
"Two-thirds of U.S. women at risk for unintended pregnancy use contraception consistently and correctly throughout the course of any given year; these women account for only 5% of all unintended pregnancies. In contrast, the 19% of women at risk who use contraception inconsistently or incorrectly account for 43% of all unintended pregnancies. The 16% of women at risk who do not practice contraception at all for a month or more during the year account for 52% of all unintended pregnancies "
That just sort of makes sense. It goes beyond this though. It's really important that young people learn they have the ability to control what happens to their bodies and to control their fertility (and important that legislation supports this) so they are empowered to exercise self-determination in this area. Education needs to go beyond educating about safer sex practices and to focus on the how to build and establish healthy relationships and boundaries within relationships. It would be ideal if this were modeled to young people as well. I think there are many reasons that the rates of unintended pregnancy go down with age, but one of those reasons is that young adults are by nature higher risk takers; they struggle with foreseeing consequences and personalizing those consequences to realize they can in fact happen to them. So protective factors are really important - i.e. goals for the future and belief that those goals can be accomplished (things like education and a larger cultural environment that supports opportunities - particularly for those from more disadvantaged backgrounds), strong family support (kudos to Jose having an open discussion with your kids - we need more of this!), support for individual self-determination and autonomy over one's body. There are a lot of factors that go into it and I've just touched on a few of them, but access to and education about contraception is a very important piece.
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When I was in High School, a girl told me that it was okay to have sex because if you place two Midols in your vagina and do jumping jacks right after sex... you can't get pregnant.
Granted, this was way back in the 70s and much has changed... but I'm guessing that sort of 'Education' from friends or older sisters or guys is still making the rounds.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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you mean that doesn't work?! :? :oops:Cosmo wrote:When I was in High School, a girl told me that it was okay to have sex because if you place two Midols in your vagina and do jumping jacks right after sex... you can't get pregnant.
Granted, this was way back in the 70s and much has changed... but I'm guessing that sort of 'Education' from friends or older sisters or guys is still making the rounds.
It's amazing the kind of total crap fairly smart people believe about this stuff. Education!
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I used to work for a studio called Frat Men that did solo scenes of young college athletes.
I was the first man those guys ever felt comfortable asking questions and often I would end up giving safer sex and birth control seminars. Once they found there was an adult willing to have a frank and judgement-free conversation about men's sexual health, they couldn't get enough, I answered things like "can a girl get pregnant from anal?" And "is it true you can use diet coke after sex and she won't get pregnant?"
I'm still amazed at how few guys don't know they need to do testical self-examinations, let alone how to do them.0 -
One of the barriers to parents and adults talking to kids about sex is that a lot of them have this delusional notion that if they talk about sex in a direct manner, that somehow they are encouraging them to have sex. Like they weren't thinking about it before, but now that you mention it, you'll suddenly have a room full of horny teens. Did these people forget what it was like when they were that age?0
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Cosmo wrote:
...cincybearcat wrote:You think most unwanted pregnancies stem from people not knowing about condoms, etc?
I think this is true for a small portion of the population, but not most. That is why when people talk about education being the solution, while I think it can help, I don't believe it will solve the majority of the problems. People always blame a lack of knowing when most of the time it's a lack of applying the knowledge you have.
it is not just the use of condoms... it is education in general regarding sex and the massive size of the consequences. Fear does not work. I think a heavy dose of reality would do a better job.
If kids were not able to palm their kids off to their parents to raise... that would help. Faced with the responsibility of another human being is much greater than trying to keep a cat or a dog. Kids need to figure out at a relatively early age that 18 years is a long fucking time and that they give up a lot of their freedoms to live as kids and young adults when they have kids of their own.
We were all kids art one time. and as adults, we have come to know one certain truth... all kids are dumbfucks. They think they know it all and they are certain they know a lot more than you and me... but, the fact remains... they don't know shit.
This is what I'm talking about. I agree. And as I said, I agree with more open discussions/education. I think this is where the biggest impact is. It's gotta be more than just teaching how to put condoms on a banana.hippiemom = goodness0 -
You are correct I heard and saw nothing on the right to life march but did see numerous times the pro gun regulation march on my local news. It wasn't very impressive I thought.fear4freedom wrote:Just this past week there were two events in DC,
One had 600,000 people and one had 1000 people!
The big one was the "March for Life" People of all races and ages were there! Our youth is very pro life by the way! Over %55 are pro life! Great news and there is hope for life!
The little one was for "gun control"
The main stream media gave ZERO coverage to the big one with 600,000 people. Anytime there is 600,000 people gathering for anything, it should be covered big time and logged in as a historical event.
The media bias is palpable and repugnant!
Even if you are pro choice.....you should see this bias and make note of it publicly and denounce the intentions. If you have honor anyways!
But at the moment guns are news, the big controversary within our country,
whatever anyone's agenda may be. So I will chalk this one up to that. Perhaps pro life will be a controversy worth newstime sooner than later. I think we can see that coming.0 -
Well, a quick search did bring back this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/2 ... 52570.html
But that was really it. So your point is well taken.___________________________________________
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pj1981 wrote:
You are correct I heard and saw nothing on the right to life march but did see numerous times the pro gun regulation march on my local news. It wasn't very impressive I thought.fear4freedom wrote:Just this past week there were two events in DC,
One had 600,000 people and one had 1000 people!
The big one was the "March for Life" People of all races and ages were there! Our youth is very pro life by the way! Over %55 are pro life! Great news and there is hope for life!
The little one was for "gun control"
The main stream media gave ZERO coverage to the big one with 600,000 people. Anytime there is 600,000 people gathering for anything, it should be covered big time and logged in as a historical event.
The media bias is palpable and repugnant!
Even if you are pro choice.....you should see this bias and make note of it publicly and denounce the intentions. If you have honor anyways!
But at the moment guns are news, the big controversary within our country,
whatever anyone's agenda may be. So I will chalk this one up to that. Perhaps pro life will be a controversy worth newstime sooner than later. I think we can see that coming.
I saw coverage on it without even trying, but I guess your perception of the media depends on the lens your looking through.
I don't think it really generates interest: "Oh look, another group of people wanting to go back in time".0 -
But parents SHOULD know that stuff - goes with the territory of...being a (good) parent.Prince Of Dorkness wrote:And dollar bills should fly out of my ass, but aside from that time in Vegas after I fell on.... wel.... you don't want to know about that.
The point is that many parents don't even know that stuff. Many teenagers are taught to be ashamed of sex while they're also taught to go out and use sex as power by TV.
When you say you covered all the bases, did you tell him the different ways HIV can be transmitted and how to tell at a glance the difference between a heat rash, poison ivy and the first stages of syphilis?
Cuz sometimes you have to know that when you meet someone at a camp ground.
Just saying.
Just saying.
I think jose's on the right path (I doubt his kids are meeting people at campgrounds and getting it on), and I applaud him for it.0 -
hedonist wrote:But parents SHOULD know that stuff - goes with the territory of...being a (good) parent.
Just saying.
I think jose's on the right path (I doubt his kids are meeting people at campgrounds and getting it on), and I applaud him for it.
Well no... Being able to spot std lesions isn't something that comes with the territory. (Btw, the answer is hear rash is in blotches, poison ivy is in streaks and early-stage syphllis is symmetrical on your body... If you have a lesion on one hand you'll have an identical one on the other). Just like advanced calculous and political science is something that should be taught in school, sexual health is an important thing for all to know and a qualified person should teach it.
Now yes... I applaud any parent who talks frankly about sexual issues with their kids. That's huge and I'm not coming down on him at all.
But you'd also be dreaming if you thought that teenagers aren't hooking up with people they only just met. My parents also didn't think I was hooking up with people at camp grounds and they were very wrong.
I don't have to tell you that birth control pils don't protect against STIs of any kind.0 -
Well yes, as I was talking basic birth control to try to prevent pregnancy and using condoms to try to prevent STDs - again, something that is incumbent upon parents to know and discuss with their children.Prince Of Dorkness wrote:Well no... Being able to spot std lesions isn't something that comes with the territory. (Btw, the answer is hear rash is in blotches, poison ivy is in streaks and early-stage syphllis is symmetrical on your body... If you have a lesion on one hand you'll have an identical one on the other). Just like advanced calculous and political science is something that should be taught in school, sexual health is an important thing for all to know and a qualified person should teach it.
Now yes... I applaud any parent who talks frankly about sexual issues with their kids. That's huge and I'm not coming down on him at all.
But you'd also be dreaming if you thought that teenagers aren't hooking up with people they only just met. My parents also didn't think I was hooking up with people at camp grounds and they were very wrong.
I don't have to tell you that birth control pils don't protect against STIs of any kind.
As to the hooking up, some do and some don't. Being a horny teenager (hell, even a horny adult) doesn't mean automatically throwing caution to the wind.
Sense of responsibility to oneself goes a long way, and it needs to be taught and demonstrated.0 -
I am prochoice and see your point in going back in time but I also see abortionGo Beavers wrote:pj1981 wrote:
You are correct I heard and saw nothing on the right to life march but did see numerous times the pro gun regulation march on my local news. It wasn't very impressive I thought.fear4freedom wrote:Just this past week there were two events in DC,
One had 600,000 people and one had 1000 people!
The big one was the "March for Life" People of all races and ages were there! Our youth is very pro life by the way! Over %55 are pro life! Great news and there is hope for life!
The little one was for "gun control"
The main stream media gave ZERO coverage to the big one with 600,000 people. Anytime there is 600,000 people gathering for anything, it should be covered big time and logged in as a historical event.
The media bias is palpable and repugnant!
Even if you are pro choice.....you should see this bias and make note of it publicly and denounce the intentions. If you have honor anyways!
But at the moment guns are news, the big controversary within our country,
whatever anyone's agenda may be. So I will chalk this one up to that. Perhaps pro life will be a controversy worth newstime sooner than later. I think we can see that coming.
I saw coverage on it without even trying, but I guess your perception of the media depends on the lens your looking through.
I don't think it really generates interest: "Oh look, another group of people wanting to go back in time".
as a tremendous loss of life that is out of control. The stats are pretty sickening really.
That's not the kind of country I can be proud of, women can be proud of. I hope in the
future we look back on this with disdain for the good change that has come.
But how to control that remains in teaching women to not exercise this right to take a life,
not to need to exercise the right. Not in removing the right all together.
I am with 600,000 strong and more of that kind of change.0
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