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Why doesn't Pearl Jam do an all 10C event?
I got to thinking about the lottery system and it's ups and downs and began to wonder why doesn't PJ do a 10C only event for a few shows per tour?
Just curious if it's even possible or if it's been done by any other bands before. What stops the band from doing an all 10C gig somewhere in the country? For example, they do MSG night 1 like any regular concert on their tour. Then do night 2 and sell out the whole venue to 10c members only.
From I business standpoint I understand that they have to negotiate with Ticketmaster on the percentage of seats reserved for 10C during a standard show but why does TM care who is getting the tickets as long as they collect the distribution fees/service charge. The venue has to get paid for its use, PJ makes money on the concert, etc. It would be like renting out a venue for a gigantic private party.
You rotate it around between Seattle, Chicago, Philly, New York, Boston, southern show somewhere (New Orleans???), etc. May be do some shows in off years when there is no tour (keep it in Seattle so the band doesn't have nearly as much inconvenience). Announce it way in advance to people can travel from overseas.
It would have a really positive vibe kind of like PJ20 with less special guests. The band could screw around and pull out old catalog/rare stuff that fans would want (Rats you know I'm looking at you). Perhaps play an entire album.
Seem like a win for everyone involved. Clearly there is something I'm missing.
Just curious if it's even possible or if it's been done by any other bands before. What stops the band from doing an all 10C gig somewhere in the country? For example, they do MSG night 1 like any regular concert on their tour. Then do night 2 and sell out the whole venue to 10c members only.
From I business standpoint I understand that they have to negotiate with Ticketmaster on the percentage of seats reserved for 10C during a standard show but why does TM care who is getting the tickets as long as they collect the distribution fees/service charge. The venue has to get paid for its use, PJ makes money on the concert, etc. It would be like renting out a venue for a gigantic private party.
You rotate it around between Seattle, Chicago, Philly, New York, Boston, southern show somewhere (New Orleans???), etc. May be do some shows in off years when there is no tour (keep it in Seattle so the band doesn't have nearly as much inconvenience). Announce it way in advance to people can travel from overseas.
It would have a really positive vibe kind of like PJ20 with less special guests. The band could screw around and pull out old catalog/rare stuff that fans would want (Rats you know I'm looking at you). Perhaps play an entire album.
Seem like a win for everyone involved. Clearly there is something I'm missing.
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I agree though lets get some bigger fucking venues and have as many ten club seats as people can buy!
now u mention msg..is like 18-20k venue?
will be sold out if only sell to members?
probably in smaller venues can happen..
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As you alluded to the only problem is those were small venue places. Perhaps MSG is too big for a 100% fan club show but I have to imagine if you make it a big event every few years then people would travel. I know I would head from KC to NYC to see something like that. Chicago would probably be a better venue due to easier accessibility from throughout the country.
If it doesn't sell out via 10c then open it up to allow people to buy more than a pair of tixs. I always bring my wife but think it would be great to have my oldest son tag along. If it doesn't sell out you can always open sales to the public.
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Now I would be totally stoked about that but I imagine that people would get left out unless they put enough venues out there. I also imagine the return on investment in terms of revenue is going to be a lot less for the band. I am sure touring is expensive and time consuming so if you're going to do it once and a while I would think you would try to get the most of your money.
The reason I was thinking about this was due to all the complaints about the new ticket lotto system and how people are complaining about being shut out. A big venue with a 10c event would give everyone a chance to go. If this was something special- rare songs, laid back band telling stories, super long sets (hey we are going to break for a half hour because were playing for five hrs tonight), etc. then people would be less focused on getting great seats and more focused on being there. I know I wouldn't care if I was in the back row for something like that.
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I'm not sure if people realize it but TM made a policty about ten years ago that limited fan club access to tickets to about 10% of a venue. The 10c has managed to somehow circumvent this, but with every tour I think they have less and less pull, and get less and less seats.
I can't see TM allowing a member only show. Thus PJ would have to do it in non TM venues, which as we saw on the '95 tour was near impossible, which I would imagine would be worse now.
If they stuck to small venues (which might the only ones left that aren't controlled by TM) the demand for tickets would be so high it'd just piss off everyone cause no one could get a ticket.
I think it has headache written all over it (from a planning perspective ).
P.S. How is netflix deemed a monopoly and ticketmaster not? C'mon man.
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The Vic Theater show was entirely fanclub. Glad I was able to score tickets to that show before the new lottery was in place.
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Ask if it would be possible for one day only @ the 10club ticket sale to reserve as many seats as possible for their 10club members. Then, ONLY THEN, the next day the arena can sell the left over seats that 10club couldn't sell. Would be shocking if these places, not run by Ticketmaster / Live Nation wouldn't do something like this.
If all else fails ... I say they build a fucking Pearl Jam Arena. 2 on the East Coast. 2 on the West Coast. And Pearl Jam could play at their arena any time they want. Dedicated 10club only tickets / fans. It would be a grand ball!!!
Boom in the front?! :shock:
But of course. Jeff on the slide. Mike & Stone will be on the grass. Ed on the top of the roof!!
and is different small arenas than venues like MSG,
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Don't say that!!!
Festivals Suck!!!
They could do a 10club only festival show. But it would have to be very well organized. And tickets far FAR away from Ticketmaster / Live Nation hands.
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So say they start (or END in Boston. One show (or two) at the Garden and one fan club show at the Orpheum (like '94). Fan club only show should be limited to fan club members only in that area (New England for Boston perhaps). They could also have fan club members that have been in the club for a certain period of time (5 + years).
They could also do a fan club acoustic tour in small venues like the Foo's did -
Last, every fan club member at fan club show gets a poster!!!
This is what should happen. You want tickets? Join the club. :fp:
The Vic Theater show was entirely fanclub. Glad I was able to score tickets to that show before the new lottery was in place.
+1
They did it then so they could do it again they have the ability. It would be the best thing they could do to reward their fan club members for staying in the fan club. I am not going to give up hope and I think if we keep talking about it on here we could make it happen!! They love us so why would'nt they want to make us all happy!
I would also like to request that at that show fan club seating be in FULL effect because I would have front row center and it would be the best thing ever!!!! hehehe I really really miss that I had it a few times and there is nothing like it in the whole wide world. Yep they spoiled me but I always always made sure I rocked out and did not stand there like a bump on a log. I never took getting that privalige for granted and I never will. Now if I could ever just score a pair of 10club tickets again. I have been getting locked out and having to buy them for shows for years so I am hoping that the lottery will at least give me a chance to score some and go to my happy place in the thrid row once again!
I think we should vow to keep this thread ALIVE until we make it happen!! We got them to finally re-release the 3 dvd and blue ray set!! They are listening to our suggestions more and more. So I for one will try to come on here and post or bump this thread daily if others will to! Come On !! WE CAN DO THIS!!!
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I'm with you brother! Two things I would love to do before I leave this world is be part of a PJ weekend at the Gorge and a fan club only theater show. Would be fucking awesome!
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