Something Interesting To Ponder

DS1119 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

So that's a "yes" I assume? You're OK with anyone buying a gun at a gun show or over the internet.
Got it.

Until legally sold weapons becomes a major problem in the US than I guess my answer is yes.

What percentage of shootings in America are done with illegally obtained weapons?

DS1119 wrote:

Something I pondered tonight. If citizens who think that reducing the number of legally sold and possessed guns will reduce the gun problem that's in the country couldn't the same logic be applied to the drug issue? Is legalized marijuana really a good thing? I mean more drugs more drug problems right? Shouldn't we as a nation be looking to reduce drug use instead of encouraging or legalizing it?

Guess you won't be visiting Colorado any time soon.
Legal possession of marijuana and concealed carry permits
:shock:

Drowned Out wrote:

covered in bliss wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

What percentage of shootings in America are done with illegally obtained weapons?

Here's a very interesting article: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /guns.html

Further proof that guns themselves aren't the problem, it's the morally corrupt fuck heads in this world.

....says the person with an OJ Simpson avatar.....

haha-yep! 2 morally corrupt fuck heads! edit to add: one used a machete and the other duct tape and chloroform. no guns!

DS1119 wrote:

Something I pondered tonight. If citizens who think that reducing the number of legally sold and possessed guns will reduce the gun problem that's in the country couldn't the same logic be applied to the drug issue? Is legalized marijuana really a good thing? I mean more drugs more drug problems right? Shouldn't we as a nation be looking to reduce drug use instead of encouraging or legalizing it?

We've had a drug that's legal and affordable--alcohol--for many centuries and it's by far the most abused substance in this country. I don't see anyone recommending we go back to prohibition, just as I don't see anyone here advocating banning gun sales or ownership. The limitations many people are discussing wouldn't threaten responsible gun owners, i.e., prohibiting sales of assault weapons, more consistent background checks, closing the gun show loophole, lengthier waiting periods, limiting the amounts of ammunition a person may buy.

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Something I pondered tonight. If citizens who think that reducing the number of legally sold and possessed guns will reduce the gun problem that's in the country couldn't the same logic be applied to the drug issue? Is legalized marijuana really a good thing? I mean more drugs more drug problems right? Shouldn't we as a nation be looking to reduce drug use instead of encouraging or legalizing it?

We've had a drug that's legal and affordable--alcohol--for many centuries and it's by far the most abused substance in this country. I don't see anyone recommending we go back to prohibition, just as I don't see anyone here advocating banning gun sales or ownership. The limitations many people are discussing wouldn't threaten responsible gun owners, i.e., prohibiting sales of assault weapons, more consistent background checks, closing the gun show loophole, lengthier waiting periods, limiting the amounts of ammunition a person may buy.

When was the last time the amount of alcohol you could purchase limited? Is there a waiting period to buy some beer?

I've seen many a person denied the sale of beer because they were already intoxicated. You've never been cut-off anywhere?

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Something I pondered tonight. If citizens who think that reducing the number of legally sold and possessed guns will reduce the gun problem that's in the country couldn't the same logic be applied to the drug issue? Is legalized marijuana really a good thing? I mean more drugs more drug problems right? Shouldn't we as a nation be looking to reduce drug use instead of encouraging or legalizing it?

We've had a drug that's legal and affordable--alcohol--for many centuries and it's by far the most abused substance in this country. I don't see anyone recommending we go back to prohibition, just as I don't see anyone here advocating banning gun sales or ownership. The limitations many people are discussing wouldn't threaten responsible gun owners, i.e., prohibiting sales of assault weapons, more consistent background checks, closing the gun show loophole, lengthier waiting periods, limiting the amounts of ammunition a person may buy.

When was the last time the amount of alcohol you could purchase limited? Is there a waiting period to buy some beer?

I was denied purchasing alcohol at 2:01am, also there are tons of counties that can't sell it on Sunday. :?
I also can't drink in public, at work, or at the sunrise park by my house at any time. I'm also not allowed to drink near or on the beach, though I'd really love to!

DS1119 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I was denied purchasing alcohol at 2:01am, also there are tons of counties that can't sell it on Sunday. :?
I also can't drink in public, at work, or at the sunrise park by my house at any time. I'm also not allowed to drink near or on the beach, though I'd really love to!

...and when you think about it. Makes perfect sense doesn't it? :? Those restrictions really do a lot...a lot of nothing. :fp:

They kept me from getting drunk in the early am, but yes those restrictions are silly. But how that has to do with anything aside from drunk people in the wee hours of the night? Oh another senseless analogy :roll:

Let's just let everyone do whatever the fuck they want whenever with no regulations on anything ever. Is that what you're proposing? You keep going back to how alcohol is regulated differently, as if that points us toward some illuminating epiphany about the nature of regulating guns. I could make an argument about how fast food and high cholesterol kills people at a far higher rate than land mines...but...I don't. Because they're not the same thing. And disparate regulations between the two don't prove that one should be regulated more or less. Stop doing it with alcohol and guns.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/184673491.html

The sad thing is, this guy could've done this just as easily with a big hole and some leaves over it and a perfectly timed surprise baseball bat attack. And plenty of time to swing away. And a few minutes where no one was looking and he had one of them isolated. And maybe a really solid, level swing. Guns and access to guns remove most of the variables needed to execute the same violence with an alternative weapon. Legal or not, responsible gun owner or not, guns are being used to commit violence far more than other weapons. But because people are not shot as frequently as say, people are killed by drunk drivers or alcoholism, doesn't mean we should not look to our legislators to do something. It also doesn't mean we shouldn't take a comprehensive approach toward the problem (yes, it's a problem) either: regulation + increased mental health services + anti-bullying etc etc etc. Take a look at all of it. But stop trying to convince us that gun violence isn't a problem.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you continue to compare things in a misleading way, use wrong numbers or apply them incorrectly, and continue to start threads that are clearly meant to start arguments. You're better than this and I'm not sure why you continue to beat this drum in such a loud way.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. Enough of this nonsense already. We get it.