Obama Wins Four More Years

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Reality is going to be about a $2,000 hit in the wallet for the average family come 1/1/13.

    I hope everyone who voted for the campaign who's main theme was raising taxes is happy.

    :fp:

    I'm very happy about this, thank you very much....

    it's time to pay our bills...I guess that's a novel concept for some... ;)
    I have no problem with paying the bills.

    But if I start a payment plan to slowly relieve myself of past debts while still buying exotic cars because I have my own credit card company, does that make sense?
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Reality is going to be about a $2,000 hit in the wallet for the average family come 1/1/13.

    I hope everyone who voted for the campaign who's main theme was raising taxes is happy.

    :fp:

    I'm very happy about this, thank you very much....

    it's time to pay our bills...I guess that's a novel concept for some... ;)
    I have no problem with paying the bills.

    But if I start a payment plan to slowly relieve myself of past debts while still buying exotic cars because I have my own credit card company, does that make sense?

    meh...tell me more about these exotic cars...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    It's kinda funny. People talking about needing to get more tax money to pay off the deficit...guess how we got the deficit? Guess who spent that $? Guess who you are fine and dandy giving more of that $ to?

    I hope it works out and spending cuts come to, but I don;t trust them at all.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    inmytree wrote:

    meh...tell me more about these exotic cars...
    A McLaren F1 to start off with.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,702
    Jason P wrote:
    Reality is going to be about a $2,000 hit in the wallet for the average family come 1/1/13.

    I hope everyone who voted for the campaign who's main theme was raising taxes is happy.

    :fp:

    Do you have a link for that? Not being a twat, I just have seen varying numbers.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    DS1119 wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

    yep. and when Harper is gone I'll be celebrating too. but even he's not fucking stupid enough to touch that issue.


    Why are Canadians so interested in what happens here?
    you don't believe u.s. politics affect things around the world much less our very dear neighbor directly to the north? jesus christ, man!
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Reality is going to be about a $2,000 hit in the wallet for the average family come 1/1/13.

    I hope everyone who voted for the campaign who's main theme was raising taxes is happy.

    :fp:

    Do you have a link for that? Not being a twat, I just have seen varying numbers.
    This is what The Atlantic said:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/how-the-fiscal-cliff-would-raise-your-taxes/265756/

    White House officials estimate that the average American family will pay $2,200 more in taxes next year if an agreement is not reached. But, if an agreement is not reached at all, even after the January 1 deadline, the increase could be higher, particularly for households that make over $100,000 a year.

    This publication doesn't lean right ... which makes it all the more scary to (cough) 98% of us. :| :?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    mca47 wrote:
    This is why I don't buy magic underwear!
    love me a set of magic underwears
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    what cuts? imaginary cuts that will somehow actually be implemented perhaps sometime in the next ten years? Ten years from now when no one associated with the plan will can be held accountable and the public will have forgotten?

    Don't get me wrong, I thing the Republicans plan has just as much B.S., but at least they won't raise taxes. Voting to raise taxes without getting anything in return is insane.

    Obama's plan wants to spend another $50B next year but the cuts take a decade. Do you really think their will be cuts?

    In the meantime, we all (pending we have jobs) pay immediately in 27 days.
    the sequestration cuts. at least defense will be cut.

    and i may be reading this wrong, but it sounds as if you would rather kick the can down the road. we are all in this together. either we get our finances in order or we are going to have another 4 years of republicans bitching about spending and deficits after failing to do anything about it.

    True the sequestration cuts will be cuts but that will add to unemployment when all the defense contractors cut jobs as well as the fed cutting jobs too. So will that be better or worse?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,838
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    what cuts? imaginary cuts that will somehow actually be implemented perhaps sometime in the next ten years? Ten years from now when no one associated with the plan will can be held accountable and the public will have forgotten?

    Don't get me wrong, I thing the Republicans plan has just as much B.S., but at least they won't raise taxes. Voting to raise taxes without getting anything in return is insane.

    Obama's plan wants to spend another $50B next year but the cuts take a decade. Do you really think their will be cuts?

    In the meantime, we all (pending we have jobs) pay immediately in 27 days.
    the sequestration cuts. at least defense will be cut.

    and i may be reading this wrong, but it sounds as if you would rather kick the can down the road. we are all in this together. either we get our finances in order or we are going to have another 4 years of republicans bitching about spending and deficits after failing to do anything about it.

    True the sequestration cuts will be cuts but that will add to unemployment when all the defense contractors cut jobs as well as the fed cutting jobs too. So will that be better or worse?

    Two questions:
    1)Why is it called "defense" spending when what we do is attack other countries? and
    2)Do we really need to be shelling out tons of money for people to make more bombs, etc. when surely there must be other more useful things for them to be doing?
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Why is he going to Detroit to talk about tax hikes for the rich?

    Is it cause people like him there?
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Forward.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    pandora wrote:
    Why is he going to Detroit to talk about tax hikes for the rich?

    Is it cause people like him there?

    Well of course they like him there, there and in half of the rest of the country.

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,615
    Best President since Clinton.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    the rest of the world believe the same
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,070
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    even with a republican party who is putting party over country. imagine what we could have accomplished had the republicans allowed a vote on say, a jobs bill....
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    the rest of the world believe the same

    The rest of the world including your country is in the shitter. So, perhaps that's a counter indicator.

    He is a crapy President.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    even with a republican party who is putting party over country. imagine what we could have accomplished had the republicans allowed a vote on say, a jobs bill....

    Further proof positive. Low on leadership. High on blame.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,615
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    even with a republican party who is putting party over country. imagine what we could have accomplished had the republicans allowed a vote on say, a jobs bill....

    Further proof positive. Low on leadership. High on blame.

    Blaming President Obama for the conduct of the current GOP is further proof positive that the current GOP has lost all sense of personal responsibility. There is no accountability...just blame Obama.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,070
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Best President since Clinton.
    even with a republican party who is putting party over country. imagine what we could have accomplished had the republicans allowed a vote on say, a jobs bill....

    Further proof positive. Low on leadership. High on blame.
    bullshit. allow a fucking vote for once and see what happens.

    you republicans are tone deaf. you lost an election in a landslide and you are not listening to what americans are saying. your speaker of the house has a lower approval rating than any congressman, including pelosi.

    how convenient is is to blame the president when one side of the aisle refuses to even allow votes...
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