7.8%

it's a good result anyway you look at it.. of course mitt will find someway of demeaning the significance of this number. Mitt has said again and again that during the Obama administration the unemployment has been over 8%. Not anymore.

pandora wrote:

They started hiring for the holiday season last month in my area ...
just saying.

thats the cause of the unemployment figures being lower?

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Zoso wrote:

thats the cause of the unemployment figures being lower?

Not really. Although they'll try to tell you that.

If that were the case, the numbers would have fallen that far the last three years, too. And they didn't.

And the real seasonal hiring never starts until November. Because the big seasonal jump in business is the day after Thanksgiving. Which is still 6 weeks away. And these are the job numbers from last month.

yeah I was being sarcastic in my response... no matter what the figures were some would find ways to discredit Obama. When the figures are good it's because of another reason (other then Obama) but when they are bad they all blame Obama.. He can't win really.

I am wondering how 114,000 jobs added = .3% decrease.

Strange, but great!

Not to put a tin foil hat on or anything, but how did one survey claim 800000 jobs added, and one claim 114,000 jobs added? Is it that hard to measure real unemployment?

overall, good growth, but I don't really have a whole lot of faith in the unemployment figure. Seems like too much of a decline with such a large discrepancy in the two surveys. Hopefully October's tells us the same thing and that jobs are starting to come back.

agree with POD, I don't think seasonal hiring has anything to do with it.

From what I read, it sounds like those claiming part time jobs are up, as well as those claiming to be self employed now.

there are people in the right wing media claiming that this is a big conspiracy and that thousands of democrats are falsely claiming that they got new jobs.... which is a fucking joke because the companies document who they hire for tax and benefit purposes :fp:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

there are people in the right wing media claiming that this is a big conspiracy and that thousands of democrats are falsely claiming that they got new jobs.... which is a fucking joke because the companies document who they hire for tax and benefit purposes :fp:

I'm not surprised.. the fact is last year at this time their wasn't an increase in employment and unemployment drop.. Obama could cure cancer and the right would say he didn't do enough.

Zoso wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

there are people in the right wing media claiming that this is a big conspiracy and that thousands of democrats are falsely claiming that they got new jobs.... which is a fucking joke because the companies document who they hire for tax and benefit purposes :fp:

No kidding and we all know Democrats don't work.

dems are the lazy dependent no good no income tax paying obama supporters

47% of 'em anyway...

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

dems are the lazy dependent no good no income tax paying obama supporters

47% of 'em anyway...


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Nope closer to 92% of dems....but that equals about 47% of the total population.

Zoso wrote:

that seems a high number now doesn't it? I know a lot of democrat supporters and they pay income tax and aren't lazy or dependent.

Of course it's high, I thought we were all joking around here this Friday?

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

pandora wrote:

funny stuff Thanksgiving :? give me a break... many are done shopping by then :fp:

Uh... have you not heard of "Black Friday" which is traditionally the "start of holiday shopping"

Here... I guess in this odd alternate universe you live in they don't have it. Here's a few pictures from last year...

Have you been to the mall? I saw the seasonal workers have already decorated

(a) I don't go to Malls.
(b) just because the already-existing staff have already hung a few ornaments in the trees at your local shopping center doesn't mean that every store has hired all of their Christmas staff.

(c) Where are you getting that the jobs created are only in the retail market? Because two weeks ago I had to hire a second programmer and a viral media specialist. And they will still work for me in January.

was this the meet and greet at montana?