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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.

    Forget the dinner table. This is a President that thought it more important to go on The View than meet one on one with world leaders.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.
    google away :lol:
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.

    Forget the dinner table. This is a President that thought it more important to go on The View than meet one on one with world leaders.
    Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
    It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute ;)

    I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.

    Forget the dinner table. This is a President that thought it more important to go on The View than meet one on one with world leaders.

    please provide context with this comment. who was he to meet? what was it about?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
    It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute ;)

    I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.
    all leaders are treated differently than us common folk. democrat or republican, they all are catered to and such. it isn't just obama and other democrats that have celebrity status.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,018
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.
    google away :lol:
    I've got all the info I need. The guy is not neglecting presidential duties to have dinner with his family. The very idea is ridiculous.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.
    google away :lol:
    I've got all the info I need. The guy is not neglecting presidential duties to have dinner with his family. The very idea is ridiculous.

    Does anyone honestly think that if an emergency came up, BO wouldn't get up from the dinner table? Or hell, even skip a dinner or 2 with the family? Really?
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305

    Does anyone honestly think that if an emergency came up, BO wouldn't get up from the dinner table? Or hell, even skip a dinner or 2 with the family? Really?

    Yes. They are plenty of people who believe that. 30% of Republicans still believe he is a Muslim. People still believe that he is a socialist. People still believe that he is a Marxist...even though most of those people have likely never read Marx.

    "O brave new world, That has such people in't!"
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,190
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    That all seems like bullshit to me.

    Forget the dinner table. This is a President that thought it more important to go on The View than meet one on one with world leaders.
    Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
    It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute ;)

    I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.

    I know your recall around the Reagan years is cloudy, but that guy was checked out all the time.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,198
    whygohome wrote:

    Does anyone honestly think that if an emergency came up, BO wouldn't get up from the dinner table? Or hell, even skip a dinner or 2 with the family? Really?

    Yes. They are plenty of people who believe that. 30% of Republicans still believe he is a Muslim. People still believe that he is a socialist. People still believe that he is a Marxist...even though most of those people have likely never read Marx.

    "O brave new world, That has such people in't!"
    Joseph McCarthy: Tis not new to me

    And 1 out 5 conservatives believe Romney is responsible for killing of OSAMA :fp:
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,190
    pandora wrote:

    Real people work and suffer.

    I work, but I'm not suffering. Once again, AMT reveals my truth that I'm a fraud and a failure :lol:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,018
    Go Beavers wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    Real people work and suffer.

    I work, but I'm not suffering. Once again, AMT reveals my truth that I'm a fraud and a failure :lol:
    Yeah, I don't suffer either, and I'm real... aren't I?? :?
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  • Since every other meme the republicans have thrown at the wall didn't stick, their latest is that he.went on The View and refused to meet a "world leader."

    If that wasn't a bug pile a crap, the "world leader" would have been named.

    The same "he doesn't work at night" and "he spends all his time playing golf" and "he's uppity" and "he likes Dijon mustard" bullshit is proof that republicans have no ideas, plans or solutions. For further proof of this, I give you the debate performance of Mitt Romney who rhymed off a bunch of policies and positions: most of which were not his.

    Yesterday he claimed that he had no plans to support an abortion law. Today his campaign remembered that he's promised to overturn Roe V Wade and stop abortions.

    This is how desperate they are. They have nothing but blind hate for him. I can guess why. But that would just be picking a fight that isn't worthy of fighting.
  • By the way.. The "world leaders" in question were delegates from the UN. That republicans say are irrelevant and should be ignored. Had he met with them (there was no particular topic being discussed), they would have claimed he was allowing foreign ambassadors to dictate his schedule and that he was apologizing to them.

    Becuase they're full of shit.
  • By the way.. The "world leaders" in question were delegates from the UN. That republicans say are irrelevant and should be ignored. Had he met with them (there was no particular topic being discussed), they would have claimed he was allowing foreign ambassadors to dictate his schedule and that he was apologizing to them.

    Becuase they're full of shit.
    :nono:

    I am a registered Republican, I am not stupid or evil, I simply have a different opinion.

    To each their own.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    pandora wrote:
    I still might give Obama four more
    but he is certainly not working for my Independent vote.
    based on what you have been writing here the last several months i highly doubt that you will.

    but if i take you at your word, what would it take for you to make a decision? what more information do you need?
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  • I am a registered Republican,

    ok.
    I am not stupid or evil,

    I didn't say you were.
    I simply have a different opinion.

    And nobody said you can't. But "The president refused to meet with world leaders so he could be on The View" isn't "an opinion," it's "something that someone who is full of shit would say."

    And you know that no matter what the president does, no matter how minor or major, they will fire up the phony indignation machine to sheik and wail that he smiled once when a kitten died on the other side of the world and he didn't know about it. Or blame him for the closure of an auto plant that happened before he was president. Or - as was done above - make up a narrative that the president blew off "world leaders" so he could be on the view.

    (when if he HAD met with them, they would have had a completely different whine).

    Or that "he's too busy eating dinner with his family."

    Call me when there's an actual topic.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    I still might give Obama four more
    but he is certainly not working for my Independent vote.
    based on what you have been writing here the last several months i highly doubt that you will.

    but if i take you at your word, what would it take for you to make a decision? what more information do you need?

    My core belief on the governments role in our lives leans red but I have never followed
    that exclusively. I am pro choice, pro gay, and against the death penalty
    so social issues I lean blue. But then I am a business owner, hence the middle stance.

    I will watch the next two debates, what happens there will help me decide.
    Of course to some degree I feel helpless in a red state but I am proud to vote
    and cast my choice.

    Honestly though I like our President less than I did a few months ago.
    Much much less than a couple years ago.
    I swear his attitude has changed but then did I ever really know it?
    Has he not been around a lot? not being a fan of late night or the View ;)
    I feel I haven't seen him much.
    I've seen him giving his awesome speeches most especially in times of sorrow
    for our country.

    He is cool, what Democrats like but he seems he's trying to be too cool
    or something. Cool is not what I necessarily like. I thought he deserved
    four more going into this but if he is not really dedicated maybe not.

    I am Wisconsin born...
    I admit I like Ryan because of my ties but need to listen tonight to what he has to say.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Go Beavers wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Forget the dinner table. This is a President that thought it more important to go on The View than meet one on one with world leaders.
    Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
    It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute ;)

    I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.

    I know your recall around the Reagan years is cloudy, but that guy was checked out all the time.
    :lol::lol::lol:
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
    It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute ;)

    I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.
    all leaders are treated differently than us common folk. democrat or republican, they all are catered to and such. it isn't just obama and other democrats that have celebrity status.
    I just have never see a Republican be like a celeb... not like the Democrats
    they are chummy with hollywood ... the super wealthy I should add.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    pandora wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I still might give Obama four more
    but he is certainly not working for my Independent vote.
    based on what you have been writing here the last several months i highly doubt that you will.

    but if i take you at your word, what would it take for you to make a decision? what more information do you need?

    My core belief on the governments role in our lives leans red but I have never followed
    that exclusively. I am pro choice, pro gay, and against the death penalty
    so social issues I lean blue. But then I am a business owner, hence the middle stance.

    I will watch the next two debates, what happens there will help me decide.
    Of course to some degree I feel helpless in a red state but I am proud to vote
    and cast my choice.

    Honestly though I like our President less than I did a few months ago.
    Much much less than a couple years ago.
    I swear his attitude has changed but then did I ever really know it?
    Has he not been around a lot? not being a fan of late night or the View ;)
    I feel I haven't seen him much.
    I've seen him giving his awesome speeches most especially in times of sorrow
    for our country.

    He is cool, what Democrats like but he seems he's trying to be too cool
    or something. Cool is not what I necessarily like. I thought he deserved
    four more going into this but if he is not really dedicated maybe not.

    I am Wisconsin born...
    I admit I like Ryan because of my ties but need to listen tonight to what he has to say.

    I live in Wisconsin and I don't like Ryan

    :lol:

    Enjoy the debate :)
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    google away :lol:
    I've got all the info I need. The guy is not neglecting presidential duties to have dinner with his family. The very idea is ridiculous.

    Does anyone honestly think that if an emergency came up, BO wouldn't get up from the dinner table? Or hell, even skip a dinner or 2 with the family? Really?
    Well of course but that is not the only job of the President, to handle emergencies.
    It is his attitude of being unavailable so he can be a family man, disregarding duties,
    ignoring times when policy making and relationship building is sometimes necessary.
    It is a privileged attitude choosing not to sacrifice for the job he was hired to do.

    A Dad does not need to be at the dinner table to be a good Dad.
    That's a tough message to send to the millions of fathers who can not be
    because they are putting food on that table. Do they wish they could be?
    of course they do but they have responsibilities.

    Our President appears to be the rich guy who doesn't have to work
    and can be home for dinner every night if he chooses.
    Yet his is motto is he is working for all of us...
    Really?
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    based on what you have been writing here the last several months i highly doubt that you will.

    but if i take you at your word, what would it take for you to make a decision? what more information do you need?

    My core belief on the governments role in our lives leans red but I have never followed
    that exclusively. I am pro choice, pro gay, and against the death penalty
    so social issues I lean blue. But then I am a business owner, hence the middle stance.

    I will watch the next two debates, what happens there will help me decide.
    Of course to some degree I feel helpless in a red state but I am proud to vote
    and cast my choice.

    Honestly though I like our President less than I did a few months ago.
    Much much less than a couple years ago.
    I swear his attitude has changed but then did I ever really know it?
    Has he not been around a lot? not being a fan of late night or the View ;)
    I feel I haven't seen him much.
    I've seen him giving his awesome speeches most especially in times of sorrow
    for our country.

    He is cool, what Democrats like but he seems he's trying to be too cool
    or something. Cool is not what I necessarily like. I thought he deserved
    four more going into this but if he is not really dedicated maybe not.

    I am Wisconsin born...
    I admit I like Ryan because of my ties but need to listen tonight to what he has to say.

    I live in Wisconsin and I don't like Ryan

    :lol:

    Enjoy the debate :)
    Your views here seem to lean blue though...
    do you consider yourself an Independent?

    I have heard Ryan is favored but there are always surprises.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    pandora wrote:
    Your views here seem to lean blue though...
    do you consider yourself an Independent?

    I have heard Ryan is favored but there are always surprises.

    I consider myself a Libertarian
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Your views here seem to lean blue though...
    do you consider yourself an Independent?

    I have heard Ryan is favored but there are always surprises.

    I consider myself a Libertarian
    Gary Johnson ... yes I heard about him recently
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492

    And nobody said you can't. But "The president refused to meet with world leaders so he could be on The View" isn't "an opinion," it's "something that someone who is full of shit would say."

    And you know that no matter what the president does, no matter how minor or major, they will fire up the phony indignation machine to sheik and wail that he smiled once when a kitten died on the other side of the world and he didn't know about it. Or blame him for the closure of an auto plant that happened before he was president. Or - as was done above - make up a narrative that the president blew off "world leaders" so he could be on the view.

    (when if he HAD met with them, they would have had a completely different whine).

    Or that "he's too busy eating dinner with his family."

    Call me when there's an actual topic.

    You know it's stupid to think that the president of the USA can;t do his job from anywhere.

    It also seems extremely weird to me to have a president sit in on an entertainment TV talk show. You are kidding yourself if you think that was anything more than a publicity stunt specifically for re-election however.

    So, I don;t really care where he goes or what he does because I believe he can run the country from anywhere. But I'm not a huge fan of using entertainment tv to stump for re-election.
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  • You know it's stupid to think that the president of the USA can;t do his job from anywhere.

    It also seems extremely weird to me to have a president sit in on an entertainment TV talk show. You are kidding yourself if you think that was anything more than a publicity stunt specifically for re-election however.

    So, I don;t really care where he goes or what he does because I believe he can run the country from anywhere. But I'm not a huge fan of using entertainment tv to stump for re-election.

    everything a politician does is for re election. going on a fluff talk show is a way to show some viewers the "real" (AKA: happy-go-lucky, human) face of said politician, because no one on the view is going to ask a tough question; they are going to ask about his daughter's hair or show pictures of him with his new puppy. it's an easy way to engage the stay at home moms. no different, on the flip side, of showing up on monday night football to engage the guys.
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  • pandora wrote:
    Well of course but that is not the only job of the President, to handle emergencies.
    It is his attitude of being unavailable so he can be a family man, disregarding duties,
    ignoring times when policy making and relationship building is sometimes necessary.
    It is a privileged attitude choosing not to sacrifice for the job he was hired to do.

    A Dad does not need to be at the dinner table to be a good Dad.
    That's a tough message to send to the millions of fathers who can not be
    because they are putting food on that table. Do they wish they could be?
    of course they do but they have responsibilities.

    Our President appears to be the rich guy who doesn't have to work
    and can be home for dinner every night if he chooses.
    Yet his is motto is he is working for all of us...
    Really?

    I'm pretty sure, when the president isn't travelling, he eats at the White House. You know, the same place he works. So he has dinner with his family for an hour, and then goes back to work. You want him eating fast food in the war room instead? how him eating his dinner with his family turned into him being a lazy rich president is beyond my comprehension.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Well of course but that is not the only job of the President, to handle emergencies.
    It is his attitude of being unavailable so he can be a family man, disregarding duties,
    ignoring times when policy making and relationship building is sometimes necessary.
    It is a privileged attitude choosing not to sacrifice for the job he was hired to do.

    A Dad does not need to be at the dinner table to be a good Dad.
    That's a tough message to send to the millions of fathers who can not be
    because they are putting food on that table. Do they wish they could be?
    of course they do but they have responsibilities.

    Our President appears to be the rich guy who doesn't have to work
    and can be home for dinner every night if he chooses.
    Yet his is motto is he is working for all of us...
    Really?

    I'm pretty sure, when the president isn't travelling, he eats at the White House. You know, the same place he works. So he has dinner with his family for an hour, and then goes back to work. You want him eating fast food in the war room instead? how him eating his dinner with his family turned into him being a lazy rich president is beyond my comprehension.
    hmmmm....
    I think you might be confused as to exactly how this is going down?
    Perhaps that is why it is beyond your comprehension.

    There are some good articles on the subject if you would like to remain unbiased
    and learn what the other half knows as fact.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I am far from a lazy rich guy but I also make time every day to have dinner with family, friends, or my girlfriend... Does this make me a bad person?
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