7.8%

Smellyman

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

unsung wrote:

In San Diego

Oh wait... no sorry...

A parody article written in May of 2011.

http://bossip.com/377034/catching-bin-l ... -sike3920/

That's gonna leave a mark...

Prince Of Dorkness

You would think the $2.00 difference between regular and plus but a 1¢ difference between plus and premium would have been a top off..

Or the fact that the colours were all wrong and the numbers were at a different skew perspective than the edges of the sign.


Oh man, I just morphed from bad ass biker to film school geek in one sentence.

The shame. The shame.

unsung

That picture was linked from the news article from the television station report that I also posted talking about the $6/gallon fuel. No, I did not, nor do I have the time to research everything that a supposed legitimate news organization links. I'm sure in your searching you also discovered that there was indeed $6/gallon fuel.

But we can ignore that.

mickeyrat

unsung wrote:

That picture was linked from the news article from the television station report that I also posted talking about the $6/gallon fuel. No, I did not, nor do I have the time to research everything that a supposed legitimate news organization links. I'm sure in your searching you also discovered that there was indeed $6/gallon fuel.

But we can ignore that.

will you acknowledge that the power outage and the explosion are as much, if not the main reason for fuel costs being what they are at present in Ca?

mickeyrat

mickeyrat wrote:

unsung wrote:

That picture was linked from the news article from the television station report that I also posted talking about the $6/gallon fuel. No, I did not, nor do I have the time to research everything that a supposed legitimate news organization links. I'm sure in your searching you also discovered that there was indeed $6/gallon fuel.

But we can ignore that.

will you acknowledge that the power outage and the explosion are as much, if not the main reason for fuel costs being what they are at present in Ca?


different rules there force a different blend

Prince Of Dorkness

unsung wrote:

That picture was linked from the news article from the television station report that I also posted talking about the $6/gallon fuel. No, I did not, nor do I have the time to research everything that a supposed legitimate news organization links. I'm sure in your searching you also discovered that there was indeed $6/gallon fuel.

But we can ignore that.

Except no...there was a place charging $5.69 for a gallon of premium. And if you used a debit card, they would charge you 30¢ for that. So... I guess if you only bought one gallon of gas (the 30¢ was flat, not per gallon), then yes... One place in the remote town of Calabasis was charging that much.

Obviously you need to get your news from another place... But if you can't even take 3 seconds to look at images you're posting and think about them.... If you don't have time to research the claims you make while debating about politics... Don't debate politics.

Again I say... If you're that gullible, it explains why you are a supporter of Ron Paul.

Prince Of Dorkness

unsung wrote:

But we can ignore that.

May I suggest in the future that you use that as your signature?

:fp:

Go Beavers

EdsonNascimento wrote:

You've made up you're mind. Maybe your neighbors, too. If they have not, I doubt they care what the numbers say. They're living it.

I think obamas getting re elected. I think the numbers and reality mean nothing. Funny that every liberal on here won't even acknowledge the labor force participation rate unless it is to say romney supporters are spinning.

We talk a lot about the labor participation rate in this thread:
http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=177466&hilit=+numbers

The lfp rate has been pretty flat in 2012, and didn't change significantly last month. I see liberals speak to it and how it's a factor. I've made the argument that it's due to the high number of people retiring (approx 300,000 a month). The conservative argument is that people have given up looking for a job, but if that was the case, you would have seen the unemployment rate increase as they would have flooded the job market after hearing that hiring is on an upswing. Conservatives seem to reference the lfp rate because they're stubbornly refusing to even ponder the idea that the economy might be getting better.

DriftingByTheStorm

This number IS a joke, but I think it has far less to do with the politics of the election than it does to do with the price of gold and silver, and the general "fuckdom" that "those in control" are THINLY masking at this point. Shit is about to blow apart at the seams from the standpoint of an amazing array of different metrics (jobs, housing, manufacturing, national debt, bonds&ratings-local-federal-international, international markets - europe-china-iran-etc, currency stability-here-euro-iran-china?, Fed out of ammo, etc etc etc) and it seems like time is up. The gold & silver markets have turned, and turned rather violently out of their year long "rut" (read:supression,supression,supression) ... they are getting ready to run ... run,run,run ... "those in control" have been battling this REAL MARKET FORCE all year generally, acutely as of this month, and PAINFULLY as of this last week ... they are in a panic ... gold moved from 1590 to 1780 in a month. Its already been to 2000 a year ago (and was brutally supressed with all sorts of bullshit tactics). Nothing has improved since then. Fundamentals continue to slam their head against against the brick wall of a stalled out inflation-scheme economy with far too much debt that is literally impossible to pay off. The Fed is currently in the racket of outright monetization of debt (which Bernanke laughingly denied just last week) via QE3toINFINITY ... and they already know it doesn't "work". These are all just bandaids. Shit is FUCKED.

This labor report is nothing but SHEER DESPERATION.
It isn't about trying to pull punches for Obama or Romney. They are trying to FORESTALL COLLAPSE.

THIS is what they did to metals with that BLS report. It was nothing more than a frantic torpedo job on a market that was (and still is) VERY primed to explode. Once gold gets over 1800 (and it WILL be soon. Next week, or next month, who cares) its 1900, and 2000. In ***SHORT*** order. Once its over 2000. Fucking BE WARE.
:?

unsung

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Again I say... If you're that gullible, it explains why you are a supporter of Ron Paul.

This coming from the most narrow minded one issue voter on these forums.

The unfortunate part for you is that Ron Paul would have been one of your best shots at getting what you want.

PJ_Soul

unsung wrote:

In San Diego

You people are still paying less for gas than most people in the world you know. And I was just in the States and didn't see gas going for more than $4 a gallon (I realize it's more in some places... and even in those places it's cheaper than anywhere in all of Canada and Western Europe). If Obama has anything to do with gas prices in your country (which he doesn't), I say he's doing a damn fine job in keeping them low!

Prince Of Dorkness

unsung wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Again I say... If you're that gullible, it explains why you are a supporter of Ron Paul.

This coming from the most narrow minded one issue voter on these forums.

The unfortunate part for you is that Ron Paul would have been one of your best shots at getting what you want.

Which one issue are you talking about?

I've supported...

A separation of church and state
Women's reproductive rights
Immigration reform
Marriage equalty
Raising taxes on the highest earners
Ending the war
Universal access to affordable Health care
Education reform
Charging the ones who caused the banking crash with crimes
Supporting public broadcasting
Ending corporate welfare
Supporting alternative energy
The ENDA
Environmental protection


I could go on.

What is the "what I want" part?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

can someone please get Romney to explain to me how you quantify those that have given up looking for work?

Prince Of Dorkness

BTW, unsung...

I occasionally forget that not everyone has my defense mechanisms and lay it on a bit thick.... I also don't always know my own strength.

And it's not like I haven't been duped by something I found on the internet and didn't research quite enough before mentioning it.

So... sorry.

That said, I know you're talking about marriage equality when you say that Ron Paul could give me the one thing I want. Without getting off topic (although this was my thread), no... he couldn't. Ron Paul wants to do away with all federal recognition of marriage. To me that's the legal version of getting angry that you have to let the black kid on your team so you dissolve the league to prevent it. And it's not at ALL what I want.

I don't want to do away with federal recognition of marriage. I think marriage and the family ARE the cornerstone of society and I don't want to do anything to weaken them. Besides, without federal recognition of marriage, my husband and I would be what we are now... room mates in the eyes of the law. Which would mean that my only chance of sponsoring him for citizenship would be gone forever.

Trust me... Ron Paul will never give me "what I want."

My only hope is that DOMA makes it to the supreme court and is found to be unconstitutional. Or that the laws are changed to allow me to sponsor him.

And my only hope for that is to keep this president for four more years.

Although as luck would have it, the president also supports many of the things that I do. Or at the very least, sees things closer to me than any other candidate.

Zoso

unsung wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Again I say... If you're that gullible, it explains why you are a supporter of Ron Paul.

This coming from the most narrow minded one issue voter on these forums.

The unfortunate part for you is that Ron Paul would have been one of your best shots at getting what you want.

I have to say if you're a progressive liberal like I would say prince of dorkness is then it's the opposite of closed minded? corredt? If you're all about inclusion you're open minded.. sorry had to intervene there

PJ_Soul

Zoso wrote:

unsung wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Again I say... If you're that gullible, it explains why you are a supporter of Ron Paul.

This coming from the most narrow minded one issue voter on these forums.

The unfortunate part for you is that Ron Paul would have been one of your best shots at getting what you want.

I have to say if you're a progressive liberal like I would say prince of dorkness is then it's the opposite of closed minded? corredt? If you're all about inclusion you're open minded.. sorry had to intervene there

+1

whygohome

Another look at it:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1 ... 5178B914AF

aerial

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This number IS a joke, but I think it has far less to do with the politics of the election than it does to do with the price of gold and silver, and the general "fuckdom" that "those in control" are THINLY masking at this point. Shit is about to blow apart at the seams from the standpoint of an amazing array of different metrics (jobs, housing, manufacturing, national debt, bonds&ratings-local-federal-international, international markets - europe-china-iran-etc, currency stability-here-euro-iran-china?, Fed out of ammo, etc etc etc) and it seems like time is up. The gold & silver markets have turned, and turned rather violently out of their year long "rut" (read:supression,supression,supression) ... they are getting ready to run ... run,run,run ... "those in control" have been battling this REAL MARKET FORCE all year generally, acutely as of this month, and PAINFULLY as of this last week ... they are in a panic ... gold moved from 1590 to 1780 in a month. Its already been to 2000 a year ago (and was brutally supressed with all sorts of bullshit tactics). Nothing has improved since then. Fundamentals continue to slam their head against against the brick wall of a stalled out inflation-scheme economy with far too much debt that is literally impossible to pay off. The Fed is currently in the racket of outright monetization of debt (which Bernanke laughingly denied just last week) via QE3toINFINITY ... and they already know it doesn't "work". These are all just bandaids. Shit is FUCKED.

This labor report is nothing but SHEER DESPERATION.
It isn't about trying to pull punches for Obama or Romney. They are trying to FORESTALL COLLAPSE.

THIS is what they did to metals with that BLS report. It was nothing more than a frantic torpedo job on a market that was (and still is) VERY primed to explode. Once gold gets over 1800 (and it WILL be soon. Next week, or next month, who cares) its 1900, and 2000. In ***SHORT*** order. Once its over 2000. Fucking BE WARE.
:?

How could your post be totally ignored? I see know one wants to see things as they really are. Go post, nice to see someone knows what is going on.

whygohome

aerial wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This number IS a joke, but I think it has far less to do with the politics of the election than it does to do with the price of gold and silver, and the general "fuckdom" that "those in control" are THINLY masking at this point. Shit is about to blow apart at the seams from the standpoint of an amazing array of different metrics (jobs, housing, manufacturing, national debt, bonds&ratings-local-federal-international, international markets - europe-china-iran-etc, currency stability-here-euro-iran-china?, Fed out of ammo, etc etc etc) and it seems like time is up. The gold & silver markets have turned, and turned rather violently out of their year long "rut" (read:supression,supression,supression) ... they are getting ready to run ... run,run,run ... "those in control" have been battling this REAL MARKET FORCE all year generally, acutely as of this month, and PAINFULLY as of this last week ... they are in a panic ... gold moved from 1590 to 1780 in a month. Its already been to 2000 a year ago (and was brutally supressed with all sorts of bullshit tactics). Nothing has improved since then. Fundamentals continue to slam their head against against the brick wall of a stalled out inflation-scheme economy with far too much debt that is literally impossible to pay off. The Fed is currently in the racket of outright monetization of debt (which Bernanke laughingly denied just last week) via QE3toINFINITY ... and they already know it doesn't "work". These are all just bandaids. Shit is FUCKED.

This labor report is nothing but SHEER DESPERATION.
It isn't about trying to pull punches for Obama or Romney. They are trying to FORESTALL COLLAPSE.

THIS is what they did to metals with that BLS report. It was nothing more than a frantic torpedo job on a market that was (and still is) VERY primed to explode. Once gold gets over 1800 (and it WILL be soon. Next week, or next month, who cares) its 1900, and 2000. In ***SHORT*** order. Once its over 2000. Fucking BE WARE.
:?

How could your post be totally ignored? I see know one wants to see things as they really are. Go post, nice to see someone knows what is going on.

I ignored it for a few reasons.

1. I think the gold and silver markets are bogus markets. I'm a commodities trader (my second job, more of a part-time gig at the moment) and I have friends on Wall St who think those markets are a joke. It's a market trumped by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul, and it will eventually collapse on its own accord.

2. I don't always buy the anti-Fed arguments. It lets the banks and Wall St. off the hook--these are the fucks who are manipulating various aspects of our economy--the markets (derivatives, anyone?), our currency, oil prices, etc. Do we not remember what has happened over the last decade or so.
3. Housing---the banks and the mortgage lenders don't have the resources to restructure people's mortgages? Please. This is a sick joke being played on the American people. Where is Countrywide Home Loans these days?
4. Too much Alex Jones anxiety in the post.
5. The corporate oligarchs are the most unpatriotic Americans that we have seen, They make the robber barons look like a kid stealing a snickers at a 7-11

If there is another collapse, this time they better lock up the bankers, hedge-find managers, and traders who cause it. if not, these people should be dragged out of their cushy offices and dragged through the streets Mussolini-style.

Go Beavers

whygohome wrote:

aerial wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This number IS a joke, but I think it has far less to do with the politics of the election than it does to do with the price of gold and silver, and the general "fuckdom" that "those in control" are THINLY masking at this point. Shit is about to blow apart at the seams from the standpoint of an amazing array of different metrics (jobs, housing, manufacturing, national debt, bonds&ratings-local-federal-international, international markets - europe-china-iran-etc, currency stability-here-euro-iran-china?, Fed out of ammo, etc etc etc) and it seems like time is up. The gold & silver markets have turned, and turned rather violently out of their year long "rut" (read:supression,supression,supression) ... they are getting ready to run ... run,run,run ... "those in control" have been battling this REAL MARKET FORCE all year generally, acutely as of this month, and PAINFULLY as of this last week ... they are in a panic ... gold moved from 1590 to 1780 in a month. Its already been to 2000 a year ago (and was brutally supressed with all sorts of bullshit tactics). Nothing has improved since then. Fundamentals continue to slam their head against against the brick wall of a stalled out inflation-scheme economy with far too much debt that is literally impossible to pay off. The Fed is currently in the racket of outright monetization of debt (which Bernanke laughingly denied just last week) via QE3toINFINITY ... and they already know it doesn't "work". These are all just bandaids. Shit is FUCKED.

This labor report is nothing but SHEER DESPERATION.
It isn't about trying to pull punches for Obama or Romney. They are trying to FORESTALL COLLAPSE.

THIS is what they did to metals with that BLS report. It was nothing more than a frantic torpedo job on a market that was (and still is) VERY primed to explode. Once gold gets over 1800 (and it WILL be soon. Next week, or next month, who cares) its 1900, and 2000. In ***SHORT*** order. Once its over 2000. Fucking BE WARE.
:?

How could your post be totally ignored? I see know one wants to see things as they really are. Go post, nice to see someone knows what is going on.

I ignored it for a few reasons.

1. I think the gold and silver markets are bogus markets. I'm a commodities trader (my second job, more of a part-time gig at the moment) and I have friends on Wall St who think those markets are a joke. It's a market trumped by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul, and it will eventually collapse on its own accord.

2. I don't always buy the anti-Fed arguments. It lets the banks and Wall St. off the hook--these are the fucks who are manipulating various aspects of our economy--the markets (derivatives, anyone?), our currency, oil prices, etc. Do we not remember what has happened over the last decade or so.
3. Housing---the banks and the mortgage lenders don't have the resources to restructure people's mortgages? Please. This is a sick joke being played on the American people. Where is Countrywide Home Loans these days?
4. Too much Alex Jones anxiety in the post.
5. The corporate oligarchs are the most unpatriotic Americans that we have seen, They make the robber barons look like a kid stealing a snickers at a 7-11

If there is another collapse, this time they better lock up the bankers, hedge-find managers, and traders who cause it. if not, these people should be dragged out of their cushy offices and dragged through the streets Mussolini-style.

Good reply. I was just going to say that Drifting sounded like Glenn Beck and leave it at that.