Something funny about MIA

TheDecline13 · September 2012

Show was great but the one thing that kinda bugs me is Ed starts talking about how jobs should be created in America, which is fine I agree 1000% but the problem is the jacket being sold at the show was made in China.

It has stuck with me for a few days and figured I would share it.

Nami · September 2012

you need to let it go and move on. Focus on the music and the show the boys put on.

Also, be thankful you got to see the best band in the world play this year.

Love to have a PJ fix this year.. maybe next year, fingers crossed.

TheDecline13 · September 2012

I loved the show, they were fucking fire.. Very interesting to see the band with the very eclectic crowed nice change of pace.

Never said I wasn't thankful, but its hard when someone speaks from the heart when they doing the same things as the accused .

Nami wrote:

you need to let it go and move on. Focus on the music and the show the boys put on.

Also, be thankful you got to see the best band in the world play this year.

Love to have a PJ fix this year.. maybe next year, fingers crossed.

Kelly Leak · September 2012

TheDecline13 wrote:

Show was great but the one thing that kinda bugs me is Ed starts talking about how jobs should be created in America, which is fine I agree 1000% but the problem is the jacket being sold at the show was made in China.

It has stuck with me for a few days and figured I would share it.

It is worth sharing. PJ is authentic as they come, but we live in a dollars-and-cents(sense also applies here) world. PJ is a business. Making clothing in China makes economic sense. Making clothing in the USA would cause a spike in cost that would send most consumers into a coma.

America has become the most spoiled country in the history of the world.

schuhljam · September 2012

Very interesting point. I think I agree with you. Unfortunately I do not think he has much control over where those things come from or maybe he never thought about it. But perhaps he should.

TheDecline13 · September 2012

Kelly Leak wrote:

TheDecline13 wrote:

Show was great but the one thing that kinda bugs me is Ed starts talking about how jobs should be created in America, which is fine I agree 1000% but the problem is the jacket being sold at the show was made in China.

It has stuck with me for a few days and figured I would share it.

It is worth sharing. PJ is authentic as they come, but we live in a dollars-and-cents(sense also applies here) world. PJ is a business. Making clothing in China makes economic sense. Making clothing in the USA would cause a spike in cost that would send most consumers into a coma.

America has become the most spoiled country in the history of the world.

I think its worth sharing, its a forum of discussion. Many people did not see or hear the show its information that people could discuss. I agree pearl jam is a business, one of the best business around in fact. But if one of the CEO's starts making statements, someone should be able to point out that there doing the same thing.

Also the shirts are made in America at $35 (Maybe $30 I would have to check my receipts), Jacket made in China $60.

TheDecline13 · September 2012

schuhljam wrote:

Very interesting point. I think I agree with you. Unfortunately I do not think he has much control over where those things come from or maybe he never thought about it. But perhaps he should.

I'm sure he doesnt either but like I said it "stuck" with me. Did it stop me from buying the merch. hell no. I would take a bullet for the band if need be.. ha

jamminpearls · September 2012

TheDecline13 wrote:

Show was great but the one thing that kinda bugs me is Ed starts talking about how jobs should be created in America, which is fine I agree 1000% but the problem is the jacket being sold at the show was made in China.

It has stuck with me for a few days and figured I would share it.

Your not alone, I thought of the lumber Jacket as soon as he said it.

hailhail50 · September 2012

All Sprinsgteen shirts made in US - $40 each. Also interestingly all monitors on stage as well - then unions came out to break down stage. Interesting contrast.

boyo79 · September 2012

jamminpearls wrote:

TheDecline13 wrote:

Show was great but the one thing that kinda bugs me is Ed starts talking about how jobs should be created in America, which is fine I agree 1000% but the problem is the jacket being sold at the show was made in China.

It has stuck with me for a few days and figured I would share it.

Your not alone, I thought of the lumber Jacket as soon as he said it.

I don't think PJ getting their clothing merch made in the US is going to help the economy or jobs market out. How many of those jackets do you think got made? I'd be surprised if it was a 1000. Seriously people are going way over the top on this.

Spiritual_Chaos · September 2012

Haha...

... come on. Big deal.

I bet you all drive american cars too? Only play american game consoles? Only Xbox - no Nintendo or Sony in your house!

Did you watch that swedish vampire-movie "Let the right one in" or waited for the american remake cuz your a patriot? "This movie didn't help the filmworkers in California, they gave work to swedish filmworkers - no way we can watch this film and stay true americans!"

Pearl Jam is a band with an international audience. They should play China and say "we helped create jobs here!" and as long as the people making the shirts were treated correct, that matters more to me than making them in american XXXXXXXXXL sizes.

boyo79 · September 2012

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

Haha...

... come on. Big deal.

I bet you all drive american cars too? Only play american game consoles? Only Xbox - no Nintendo or Sony in your house!

Did you watch that swedish vampire-movie "Let the right one in" or waited for the american remake cuz your a patriot? "This movie didn't help the filmworkers in California, they gave work to swedish filmworkers - no way we can watch this film and stay true americans!"

Pearl Jam is a band with an international audience. They should play China and say "we helped create jobs here!" and as long as the people making the shirts were treated correct, that matters more to me than making them in american XXXXXXXXXL sizes.

Yep.

Everyone's a hypocrite here. People moaning about PJ playing the Oracle thing - 90% of people on this forum must work for a corporation. And then this jacket thing. Its hilarious.

dimitrispearljam · September 2012

love the fact that eddie here in europe shows talks for intresting things and not politics..

Spiritual_Chaos · September 2012

dimitrispearljam wrote:

love the fact that eddie here in europe shows talks for intresting things and not politics..

I would not say that saying "Hello. Sorry for my bad [insert language], sorry for us taking so long to come back but we will come back more often from now on!" in X different languages is more interesting.

More cheesy - yes. Interesting...no...

dimitrispearljam · September 2012

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

love the fact that eddie here in europe shows talks for intresting things and not politics..

I would not say that saying "Hello. Sorry for my bad [insert language], sorry for us taking so long to come back but we will come back more often from now on!" in X different languages is more interesting.

More cheesy - yes. Interesting...no...

for me everything is more intresting than any politics
for bikes,for lakes,for serfing?whatever..

Tboz51 · September 2012

Nami wrote:

you need to let it go and move on. Focus on the music and the show the boys put on.

Also, be thankful you got to see the best band in the world play this year.

Love to have a PJ fix this year.. maybe next year, fingers crossed.

Yes, everyone ignore the atrocities of China and just keep your heads in the sand.

Don't get politically or socially involved in anything because in the end you need to not care about other nations or other human beings. Not so long as music is being performed.

Please ignore anyone else or any other problems in this world. Just keep listening...

Magnitude · September 2012

I know you're focusing on the jacket and maybe the zip-up at the show but it is worth pointing out that all of the t-shirts they sold at MIA ($30) are made in the US. However, you do have a greater point and I think the debate is worth having considering that Ed decides to use the stage as a soapbox for his views and ideals. If the zip-up at MIA was made in china and sold for $60, I'd rather it be made on an American Apparel zip-up and sold for $70. Also, American Apparel sweatshirts are great quality so I don't mind paying for something I consider a superior product.

Remember too that the posters were made in America so all things considered more merch sold at MIA was made in America than anywhere else which I think is worth praising.

My 2 cents.

POP POP!

Spiritual_Chaos · September 2012

Tboz51 wrote:

Yes, everyone ignore the atrocities of the USA or whatever nation and just keep your heads in the sand.

Buying clothes from China is not "ignoring atrocities". It's a country still evolving burden by its rule and late development. Compare that to where the western world was at the same stage of development.

And saying that this discussion regarding where the PJ merch are made is pointless is also not the same as ignoring atrocities.

And if USA (or comparable nation) is in the forefront of our praised democratic evolvment - how come it still have the death penalty and the top of its (democratic political climate consists of right-winged, more right-winged and crazy christian right-winged?

It's a piece of clothing made in a country other than your own... come on... as I stated earlier - as long as it's being made from a place where the workers are being treated correclty.

Tboz51 · September 2012

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

Tboz51 wrote:

Yes, everyone ignore the atrocities of the USA or whatever nation and just keep your heads in the sand.

Buying clothes from China is not "ignoring atrocities". It's a country still evolving burden by its rule and late development. Compare that to where the western world was at the same stage of development.

And saying that this discussion regarding where the PJ merch are made is pointless is also not the same as ignoring atrocities.

And if USA (or comparable nation) is in the forefront of our praised democratic evolvment - how come it still have the death penalty and the top of its (democratic political climate consists of right-winged, more right-winged and crazy christian right-winged?

It's a piece of clothing made in a country other than your own... come on... as I stated earlier - as long as it's being made from a place where the workers are being treated correclty.

Yes, because we know that things that come from China are always made humanely.

Read the post I referenced.. the one telling the guy to not worry about where stuff is made, just listen to the music.

Dissecting my post for your own agenda isn't cool....

DO NOT ignore other countries and do your absolute best to never buy any cheaply made Chinese stuff.

Yes care about other life issues besides "the music".

But, in fairness if we all quit caring maybe some day we can all speak chinese on this planet?

Spiritual_Chaos · September 2012

Tboz51 wrote:

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

Tboz51 wrote:

Yes, everyone ignore the atrocities of the USA or whatever nation and just keep your heads in the sand.

Buying clothes from China is not "ignoring atrocities". It's a country still evolving burden by its rule and late development. Compare that to where the western world was at the same stage of development.

And saying that this discussion regarding where the PJ merch are made is pointless is also not the same as ignoring atrocities.

And if USA (or comparable nation) is in the forefront of our praised democratic evolvment - how come it still have the death penalty and the top of its (democratic political climate consists of right-winged, more right-winged and crazy christian right-winged?

It's a piece of clothing made in a country other than your own... come on... as I stated earlier - as long as it's being made from a place where the workers are being treated correclty.

Yes, because we know that things that come from China are always made humanely.

Read the post I referenced.. the one telling the guy to not worry about where stuff is made, just listen to the music.

Dissecting my post for your own agenda isn't cool....

DO NOT ignore other countries and do your absolute best to never buy any cheaply made Chinese stuff.

Yes care about other life issues besides "the music".

But, in fairness if we all quit caring maybe some day we can all speak chinese on this planet?

The thing is - You take for granted that they were made inhumane (if that is the word).
I trust that PJ/10C make sure these are made from a place (even in this evil China) where workers are treated correct and humane etc.

And I don't see the problem with speaking chinese, swedish or american-english in the future... as long as we have a free democratic planet - without opression, one-party systems or Bush/Mitt Romney/J. Edgar Hoover type characters (oh wait... that was USA and in modern time)

Spiritual_Chaos · September 2012

(And I'm not saying that China is the ideal country to get the merch from.)

But all this "they are an american rockband and their merch should only be made here and the have sold out making the merch in another country" bullshit...

Vedder wanting more jobs (and I'm guessing he talks about politicial actions here) in the USA and making a jacket in another country does not stand against eachother enought to warrant some "I'm leaving the 10C and how dare they have something to do with the evil communist China!"-threats.

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