Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

norm · August 2012

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

Snakeduck · August 2012

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

Indeed, how stupid are we? 50% of Americans will believe this outright without a second thought.

ComeToTX · August 2012

Snakeduck wrote:

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

Indeed, how stupid are we? 50% of Americans will believe this outright without a second thought.

Amazing. From Obama saying there would be nothing done on gun control right now he got "I'm banning guns." what country do these people live in? How do they become so paranoid?

chadwick · August 2012

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

yeah alex jones was saying they gave the dude a toxic potion from columbia that actually does exist. it takes away your free will. they call it, 'devil's breath'. it's called scopolamine. look it up. it is unreal shit. it is trees in columbia.

get that stuff in your system and you're fucked. "stick your hand in a blender" you'll do it. jump off the golden gate bridge in a clown suit after giving me 10 grand. they enpty accounts and jump.

alex jones was saying this is what happened. i am bummed out tho because i love me some dave mustaine. i am very positive the president isn't in on this bullshit

comebackgirl · August 2012

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

:problem: sounds like the client I had who had a TB test but thought the prick to her skin was Obama having her implanted with a microchip to track all her thoughts and movements

catefrances · August 2012

comebackgirl wrote:

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

:problem: sounds like the client I had who had a TB test but thought the prick to her skin was Obama having her implanted with a microchip to track all her thoughts and movements

:(

dave mustaine.....> :fp:

g under p · August 2012

chadwick wrote:

norm wrote:

Dave Mustaine -- the lead singer of Megadeth -- believes Barack Obama "staged" the massacre in Aurora, CO in a sick, twisted plot to pass a gun ban.

Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

Obviously, Mustaine is not an Obama fan ... and recently bashed the President during an interview with Alex Jones ... saying, "With all of the proof about his birth certificate being fake. And you see the signs in Kenya that say 'the birthplace of Barack Obama.' Hello?! C'mon, guys. How stupid are we right now?"
http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/15/megadeth- ... -massacre/

yeah alex jones was saying they gave the dude a toxic potion from columbia that actually does exist. it takes away your free will. they call it, 'devil's breath'. it's called scopolamine. look it up. it is unreal shit. it is trees in columbia.

get that stuff in your system and you're fucked. "stick your hand in a blender" you'll do it. jump off the golden gate bridge in a clown suit after giving me 10 grand. they enpty accounts and jump.

alex jones was saying this is what happened. i am bummed out tho because i love me some dave mustaine. i am very positive the president isn't in on this bullshit

I love Dave Mustaine and his political views but he's way off on this one...this sounds so nutty. I betcha he wouldn't say this in this country to an American audience he would or should get booed right off the stage even though I like him very much.

Peace

Zoso · August 2012

Nick Cave has an interesting take on guns and gun culture.... I agree to a point.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6451680133

dimitrispearljam · August 2012

Zoso wrote:

Nick Cave has an interesting take on guns and gun culture.... I agree to a point.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6451680133

goood read..thanks Tim.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · August 2012

Zoso wrote:

Nick Cave has an interesting take on guns and gun culture.... I agree to a point.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6451680133

my personal belief is that if any entertainment is partly to blame for real violence in society, and I don't know that I agree with that, is video games. Movies are something you watch. Video game violence is something you CONTROL. You are IN IT. I can see that taking a toll on a young impressionable brain. Especially when you hear of people playing these army games for days on end with headsets and all that stuff.

But I think it goes way deeper than that.

chadwick · August 2012

g under p wrote:

I love Dave Mustaine and his political views but he's way off on this one...this sounds so nutty. I betcha he wouldn't say this in this country to an American audience he would or should get booed right off the stage even though I like him very much.

Peace

agreed

chadwick · August 2012

i remember as a kid dad telling us about the shelby cobra. back in the 60's if you wanted to purchase a shelby cobra you had to attend a driving/operators course because the car was so fucking awesomely powerful that most people flat out wrap themselves around utility poles at ungodly quick speeds.

now i haven't look for these exact facts online but it is all true.

how's come needledick circle jerk artists can purchase most any guns they desire and never ever report to anyone for a schooling/safety course of operations?

frickin retarded ass bullshit

pandora · August 2012

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

But let's for sure address it
like the situation of our shooter that this thread was started from.
Address the fact he was delusional and certainly can not be held accountable
and fried because he is mentally incompetent.

Address the fact that you yourself said depression can also lead to shootings like this,
not exclusively thought disorders.

That mental illness has a link to both violence and crime.
Our society could honor the rights of people by providing help for them
while avoiding removing the rights of others.
This by addressing why people are shooting.

It's stopping the why not the how.

Being mentally incompetent and mentally ill are 2 very different things. Jared Loughner is mentally ill; he was deemed mentally competent.

We do not know if the Aurora shooter was delusional (particularly at the time of the shooting, because there is a gag order and the psychiatrist cannot release any information. We do not know this for sure. I did not say that depression leads to shootings like this; I said it may be the only form of mental illness a shooter has (not necessarily psychosis or an illness that results in a break with reality).

Again, those that are mentally ill are much more likely to be a victim of crime, not a perpetrator. Those living with mental illness absolutely need to have better access to care and sometimes protections from themselves and others (although the need for that protection is often only fleeting).

Yes I know the definitions...

Yes I know about the fact that it is not a given about Holmes... been through this

and not only are the mentally ill much more likely to be a victim than
a perp that is true for us all

pandora · August 2012

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.

Peace

How am I trying to control the board? How was I insensitive?
Be prepared to discuss others behavior and yours also.

I have not had a problem in this thread with anyone's words,
I point them out so the mods and others can see and I carry on. I am accustomed to this by now.

Actually since you posted this others have posted interesting articles ....

so....
carry on with the topic.

quick question off topic... why do you need to point things out for the mods & others, then you carry on? i don't understand except i see where you would be trying to get others jammed up with the admin

quick answer off topic...

Would you rather I hit the button? when you openly insult me

if so let me know and I will cause that would be really jamming up as you put it

chadwick · August 2012

^^^say what?

comebackgirl · August 2012

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

But let's for sure address it
like the situation of our shooter that this thread was started from.
Address the fact he was delusional and certainly can not be held accountable
and fried because he is mentally incompetent.

Address the fact that you yourself said depression can also lead to shootings like this,
not exclusively thought disorders.

That mental illness has a link to both violence and crime.
Our society could honor the rights of people by providing help for them
while avoiding removing the rights of others.
This by addressing why people are shooting.

It's stopping the why not the how.

Being mentally incompetent and mentally ill are 2 very different things. Jared Loughner is mentally ill; he was deemed mentally competent.

We do not know if the Aurora shooter was delusional (particularly at the time of the shooting, because there is a gag order and the psychiatrist cannot release any information. We do not know this for sure. I did not say that depression leads to shootings like this; I said it may be the only form of mental illness a shooter has (not necessarily psychosis or an illness that results in a break with reality).

Again, those that are mentally ill are much more likely to be a victim of crime, not a perpetrator. Those living with mental illness absolutely need to have better access to care and sometimes protections from themselves and others (although the need for that protection is often only fleeting).

Yes I know the definitions...

Yes I know about the fact that it is not a given about Holmes... been through this

and not only are the mentally ill much more likely to be a victim than
a perp that is true for us all

im glad we're on the same page about all that so moving forward we can use those terms accurately and not speak of speculation as fact or reinforce destructive stigmas.

ComeToTX · August 2012

it's funny that mustaine made his rant in singapore, where gun laws are much stricter than in the us.

dunkman · August 2012

ComeToTX wrote:

it's funny that mustaine made his rant in singapore, where gun laws are much stricter than in the us.

the gun laws in Mad Max were stricter than the current US laws

ComeToTX · August 2012

dunkman wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

it's funny that mustaine made his rant in singapore, where gun laws are much stricter than in the us.

the gun laws in Mad Max were stricter than the current US laws

sadly that's true...

pandora · August 2012

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

Yes I know the definitions...

Yes I know about the fact that it is not a given about Holmes... been through this

and not only are the mentally ill much more likely to be a victim than
a perp that is true for us all

im glad we're on the same page about all that so moving forward we can use those terms accurately and not speak of speculation as fact or reinforce destructive stigmas.

actually there is much speculation here ...
even about people that no one really knows :fp: something you have done.

To some degree speculation can be used to form opinion something you have done
so just think of it that way... it's my opinion

so I will speculate and use terms I see fit ...

at least a few here are actually attacking the why to all the shootings in a logical way...
by addressing the lack of easy and affordable mental health care
instead of assuming taking away guns will fix anything.
When we remove the real threat... the person from the equation
is when violent acts and crime will cease.

Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

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