Disney sued over headscarf.....

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    "learn the rules learn the language or go home."

    I think I just stumbled upon a great T-shirt idea. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    "learn the rules learn the language or go home."

    I think I just stumbled upon a great T-shirt idea. :lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    You should market those shirts to the people in Afghanistan and Iraq. You'd have a hit... seriously.
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  • Snakeduck
    Snakeduck Posts: 1,056
    Godfather. wrote:
    "learn the rules learn the language or go home."

    I think I just stumbled upon a great T-shirt idea. :lol:

    Godfather.

    Yeah, man, xenophobia rules! Holla!
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Didn't the Borgata and some other casinos get around their weight restrictions for cocktail servers by hiring them as "entertainers?" I think the Borgata suit settled out of court. I would imagine that Disney characters would or could fall into the same category.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    comebackgirl wrote:
    Didn't the Borgata and some other casinos get around their weight restrictions for cocktail servers by hiring them as "entertainers?" I think the Borgata suit settled out of court. I would imagine that Disney characters would or could fall into the same category.
    ...
    She was given the option of wearing one of those bonnets over her traditional head scarf... she declined. She was given the opportunity to work behind the scenes, in which case, she could wear the head scarf... she declined.
    She went in looking for a fight.
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Cosmo wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    Didn't the Borgata and some other casinos get around their weight restrictions for cocktail servers by hiring them as "entertainers?" I think the Borgata suit settled out of court. I would imagine that Disney characters would or could fall into the same category.
    ...
    She was given the option of wearing one of those bonnets over her traditional head scarf... she declined. She was given the opportunity to work behind the scenes, in which case, she could wear the head scarf... she declined.
    She went in looking for a fight.
    I'm not arguing that, but I would imagine if she was hired as a character, Disney could classify her as an entertainer and get around whatever legal protections there may be.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    comebackgirl wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    She was given the option of wearing one of those bonnets over her traditional head scarf... she declined. She was given the opportunity to work behind the scenes, in which case, she could wear the head scarf... she declined.
    She went in looking for a fight.
    I'm not arguing that, but I would imagine if she was hired as a character, Disney could classify her as an entertainer and get around whatever legal protections there may be.
    ...
    You are absolutely right. I can't go to Disneyland and apply for the job as Snow White, then claim discrimination for them not hiring me. They can offer me the job as Goofy (which is more fitting) and if I decline, it is my choice.
    As for this gal, she was working 'on stage'. Even the people working the shops on Main Street have to dress as if they were in the late 1800s/early 1900s (except there was clean running water and washing machines). If she workd behind the scenes, like on the recieving docks, parking lot, kitchen... out of view of the paying public... she could wear her head scarf with the company supplied uniform.
    It really sounds like she has a beef with Disney, in general, and is trying to make it about race/culture.
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Cosmo wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    She was given the option of wearing one of those bonnets over her traditional head scarf... she declined. She was given the opportunity to work behind the scenes, in which case, she could wear the head scarf... she declined.
    She went in looking for a fight.
    I'm not arguing that, but I would imagine if she was hired as a character, Disney could classify her as an entertainer and get around whatever legal protections there may be.
    ...
    You are absolutely right. I can't go to Disneyland and apply for the job as Snow White, then claim discrimination for them not hiring me. They can offer me the job as Goofy (which is more fitting) and if I decline, it is my choice.
    As for this gal, she was working 'on stage'. Even the people working the shops on Main Street have to dress as if they were in the late 1800s/early 1900s (except there was clean running water and washing machines). If she workd behind the scenes, like on the recieving docks, parking lot, kitchen... out of view of the paying public... she could wear her head scarf with the company supplied uniform.
    It really sounds like she has a beef with Disney, in general, and is trying to make it about race/culture.
    Yep - if you're applying for the role of a character, you have to fit the role of the character. It would be a whole different story if she were working in some other capacity. It sounds like they tried to make accommodations, I would hope with similar pay and hours. I would be fantastic in the role of one of the 7 dwarves btw
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm just imagining Cosmo in a Snow White getup.

    Giddyup!
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    hedonist wrote:
    I'm just imagining Cosmo in a Snow White getup.

    Giddyup!
    :lol: I would seriously pay to see that. I have a costume he can borrow :mrgreen:
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    badbrains wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Some of this shit in this country is mind boggling. It truly is to me. :fp:

    And to me. I love how people have no problem beating there chests and screaming about freedoms of the constitution. All gung-ho war pigs, but the first minute an American citizen (who happens to look different then you) decides to use it, you guys come shitting down on them. It's like that quote some singer once said. "everyone in America has the right to freedom of speech, until they decide to use it." Or in this case, freedom of religion/religious expression. Not all Muslims are bad, Jesus, what's the point of laughing at or poking fun of this story? Maybe some of the people in America need to step outside there own eyes and see the world through the eyes of someone else. We should stop this holier than thou persona. All empires fall, look back at Rome & Egypt. What's wrong with peace love and understanding.....I'm not bashing anyone directly cause most people on the forum are genuinely awesome folks. The shit you people do for strangers in here is incredible, mind boggling at times. Makes me proud to be a member.....now let's turn and do for people outside the forum.


    If I had a face tatoo I can't reasonably expect to work at Disney either. :lol: Disney is a business. If you don;t conform to their standards...move on. A person has the right to choose their own employment. :lol:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Zoso wrote:
    isn't this discriminating against her? what's next disney will ban people wearing anything linked with a religion.. it's madness. she has got a case and would probably win.


    :lol: So wrong and it's funny actually. :lol:

    Lets break it down to simple terms...you apply to Burger King. Burger King requires you for the job to wear a Burger King hat. You choose to wear your religious head dress instead...that's great...go for it and do it. Don't expect Burker King to change their policy or business model for you. You have the freedom here to go seek employment where ever you want. :lol:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Zoso wrote:
    I'm assuming you're not muslim.. you would be outraged if your employer told you couldn't go to church on sunday's as you have to work.. or restricted your religion somehow? so why not put yourself in her shoes.. she is being discriminated against based on her religion pure and simple..


    My beliefs are I should be able to sleep in on Saturdays. Unfortunately my job doesn't allow that. I am free however to seek other employment that doesn't require working on Saturdays. :lol: :fp:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Zoso wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    isn't this discriminating against her? what's next disney will ban people wearing anything linked with a religion.. it's madness.

    No it's not. If it is clearly a requirement of the job and serves a purpose. It is her choice. They have strict dress codes (including how you can have your hair done) in order to agree to work there. They aren't the only ones. And it makes sense.

    Are you one of the people that are going to sue Hooters so that dudes can be waiters there?

    I wouldn't sue anyone for almost anything so no.. but hooters is kinda discriminating there also :D


    ...and yet the people that work there don;t have to work there...and the people that go there don't have to go there. :lol:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Zoso wrote:

    you have some pretty good points there I won't argue it any further but I think unless they prove her job is unsafe wearing this she will win..


    Yeah, I disagree. I think their willingness to accommodate a different "costume" (the hat) for her, the willingness to accommodate her in a different role "behind stage", and the long history of Disney enforcing these policies with everyone in order to protect their product and their brand....all that and I think it's a slam dunk for Disney.


    +1
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    hedonist wrote:
    Why wasn't this addressed when she was interviewed / hired?

    Either she should've made it known it was a requirement for her (assume she went to the interview with it on or at the very least mentioned its importance?), or they should've made their stance clear.


    Pretty much spelled out in the article.

    "Boudlal had worked at the resort for two and a half years, but only realized she could wear her hijab to work after studying for her U.S. citizenship exam.

    She became a citizen in June 2010, and decided to challenge the Disney dress code a couple months later, on August 15."

    I think I'll wear crotchless pants to work tomorrow. It wasn't spelled out in my interview. I believe it's my right to wear them. :lol:
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    DS1119 wrote:
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    I think I'll wear crotchless pants to work tomorrow. It wasn't spelled out in my interview. I believe it's my right to wear them. :lol:
    Please don't :|

    Really


    :lol:
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    comebackgirl wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
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    I think I'll wear crotchless pants to work tomorrow. It wasn't spelled out in my interview. I believe it's my right to wear them. :lol:
    Please don't :|

    Really


    :lol:


    Cutting as I type this! :lol:
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    DS1119 wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
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    I think I'll wear crotchless pants to work tomorrow. It wasn't spelled out in my interview. I believe it's my right to wear them. :lol:
    Please don't :|

    Really


    :lol:


    Cutting as I type this! :lol:
    Looks like business will be picking up at the car dealership ;):lol:
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Snakeduck wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    "learn the rules learn the language or go home."

    I think I just stumbled upon a great T-shirt idea. :lol:

    Godfather.

    Yeah, man, xenophobia rules! Holla!

    Holla ! :lol: I know someone that also uses that on a BMX web site, I got a good laugh out of that thanks !

    Godfather.

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