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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    What I don't understand is, why were there 1000 posters each night for camden but only 466 for each night of MSG? They short printed the 2003 MSG as well and we all know that one still sells for big bucks. Whoever is in charge of the bands merch is partially to blame for last nights fiasco. If there were 1000 last night all of us in that ungodly herd of cattle would have gotten one probably.
  • yahamita
    yahamita Posts: 1,514
    Yellow Bedwetter wrote:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/PEARL-JAM-Poster-New-York-City-MSG-night-2-Ames-6-25-08_W0QQitemZ200234517005QQihZ010QQcategoryZ53267QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    what a douche bag. if i see him tomorrow at hartford i'll kick his ass
    No fuckin way! Mic & patrick, take him out!
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  • pjtradeking
    pjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    stickfig13 wrote:
    The system is flawed!!!!!

    Down with 10C again!!!!! BLAAAAHHHHHH!

    Posters!!!!!

    Shirts!!!!

    Boots!!!!

    Vedder's wine bottle!

    AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    I think you have enough posters anyway! ;)

    You can NEVER have enough! ;)
    Never, ever, flipping forget
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    sgossard3 wrote:
    pretty sad that the "american way" condones this cut-throat, every man for himself attitude...

    civility should come before legality


    Reality

    is my favorite "ITY" word
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  • FrankieJ
    FrankieJ Posts: 602
    Where is this video??? I want to see it so bad...
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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    I can't believe there are so many "so what if he is selling posters for 3 and 4 times their worth" and "who cares" responses..

    Because this is something that effects everybody. Maybe not right now but when pearl jam is touring your neck of the woods and you get shut out of a poster that SHOULD have been more than enough to go around, you are gonna be one angry SOB.


    Posters are not as great as we make them out to be but FUCK.. they are cool, specially when you just saw a really good show that means something to you (to be honest id be happy if they just started doing handbills for ever show) the point is.. someone is taking huge advantage of us. Not ten club, but US. Its silly. Its stuff like this that glorifies posters and makes it even more of a monopoly.

    I say we hunt this guys down and get his shit revoked. Or at least make him realize that we are NOT enthused or entertained by this MASSIVE poster flip. Its one thing to sell one or two posters to fund going to more shows, but it seems like some have taken it up as a fucking career. Even though i dont think the ten club would be able to do anything other than make his ebay auctions stop? There is more than one way to skin a cat though so who knows, this may all be for nothing. Im sure if this guy wants to sell posters, he will sell posters.

    Poor ten club.. finally got it worked out to where everybody has the chance at ONE poster... and somehow people still find a way to take advantage :(


    At least this dude knows what he is up against this time.. Lets end this poster fiasco once and for all! Bringing it back to the good ol days when posters were just reminders of shows you went to! *Battle Cries*
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    stickfig13 wrote:
    Reality

    is my favorite "ITY" word


    Its only a reality to the lazy people who allow it to be ;)
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Please it is a $25 concert poster not a Van Gogh. Although even a Van Gogh I can walk into a poster store and buy a print of Starry Night, but that doesn't take away from the legitimacy of the original work. Making more wont hurt anyone's legitimacy, it might cut down on the amount of messages posted about posters, which might cut down on the hype but that is about it. Plus concert posters are supposed to be advertisement (or at least the were orinally were).
    people in the art community would argue otherwise (not to sound elitist :p)

    whats the first thing people think when they see the "mona lisa" in person?
    "its smaller than i thought..."

    before they even appreciate the painting itself... and its because the world is so oversaturated with that image! the same would go for these posters to some extent (though obviously not to the same extreme)

    the fact that you said "it is a $25 concert poster" is exactly what the artists are trying to stop... that $25 poster is a $300 poster right now on the market BECAUSE there are so few... and its bound to only grow

    and if they are meant for advertisement then why arent they seen til immediately before the show? theyre more like mementos... and the artists want them to transcend the simple material theyre printed on

    im just playing devils advocate... id obviously LOVE to have every poster i want at an affordable price
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    I can't believe there are so many "so what if he is selling posters for 3 and 4 times their worth" and "who cares" responses..

    Because this is something that effects everybody. Maybe not right now but when pearl jam is touring your neck of the woods and you get shut out of a poster that SHOULD have been more than enough to go around, you are gonna be one angry SOB.


    Posters are not as great as we make them out to be but FUCK.. they are cool, specially when you just saw a really good show that means something to you (to be honest id be happy if they just started doing handbills for ever show) the point is.. someone is taking huge advantage of us. Not ten club, but US. Its silly. Its stuff like this that glorifies posters and makes it even more of a monopoly.

    I say we hunt this guys down and get his shit revoked. Or at least make him realize that we are NOT enthused or entertained by this MASSIVE poster flip. Its one thing to sell one or two posters to fund going to more shows, but it seems like some have taken it up as a fucking career. Even though i dont think the ten club would be able to do anything other than make his ebay auctions stop? There is more than one way to skin a cat though so who knows, this may all be for nothing. Im sure if this guy wants to sell posters, he will sell posters.

    Poor ten club.. finally got it worked out to where everybody has the chance at ONE poster... and somehow people still find a way to take advantage :(


    At least this dude knows what he is up against this time.. Lets end this poster fiasco once and for all! Bringing it back to the good ol days when posters were just reminders of shows you went to! *Battle Cries*


    While we're at it can we tell Exxon and Shell to sell us gas cheap because gas "means" something to us?

    Free Markets my friend....

    If anything, Ebay has made posters more available at a lower price than they were Pre-EBAY
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  • AllEncompassingTrip
    AllEncompassingTrip IL Posts: 647
    PJammer4life wrote:
    If you really want a poster you can wait a year or so and get it from the 10C sale..so what people really are paying for on ebay is instant gratification in having the poster right away.

    Someone hit the nail on the head.. "INSTANT GRATIFICATION"
    I'm just as guilty..
    I think I'm still paying off poster purchases from eBay on the AMEX card..
    Looks like I'll be sitting tight until the 10C sales..
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=290580
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  • AllEncompassingTrip
    AllEncompassingTrip IL Posts: 647
    fanch75 wrote:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=290580

    There is one thread that should die.. Along with the word "Jamily" :D
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    sgossard3 wrote:
    people in the art community would argue otherwise (not to sound elitist :p)

    whats the first thing people think when they see the "mona lisa" in person?
    "its smaller than i thought..."

    before they even appreciate the painting itself... and its because the world is so oversaturated with that image! the same would go for these posters to some extent (though obviously not to the same extreme)

    the fact that you said "it is a $25 concert poster" is exactly what the artists are trying to stop... that $25 poster is a $300 poster right now on the market BECAUSE there are so few... and its bound to only grow

    and if they are meant for advertisement then why arent they seen til immediately before the show? theyre more like mementos... and the artists want them to transcend the simple material theyre printed on

    im just playing devils advocate... id obviously LOVE to have every poster i want at an affordable price


    So bascially if I get what you are saying is that the artists are happy that people like ninersfan are selling these posters online because the massive mark-up gives them credibility. Wouldn't knowning that 1000's of people have your poster on their wall also give them credibility?

    Also to be fair I did say that concert posters started out as advertisments, not that they currently are. To me as far as art goes concert posters are sort of in the same realm as comic books.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Jamily is the best word ever.

    The only way Jamily could be any better is when combined with the word poster, hence "Jamily Posters."
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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    stickfig13 wrote:
    While we're at it can we tell Exxon and Shell to sell us gas cheap because gas "means" something to us?

    Free Markets my friend....

    If anything, Ebay has made posters more available at a lower price than they were Pre-EBAY




    So you think its totally fine for this guy to get 20 more posters than you , at a show that you perhaps enjoyed for the musical aspect simply because the reality of the world is that everyone gets screwed over, and its every man for himself?


    Unlike Exxon and stuff that we will never have control over , this is something small enough, important enough to try to and change and you could actually make a difference if your tude wasn't so gung ho. Not trying to bust balls but i just hate this "yeah right, like we can change world" bullshit. People have the power if they gave themselves half a chance.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    So you think its totally fine for this guy to get 20 more posters than you , at a show that you perhaps enjoyed for the musical aspect simply because the reality of the world is that everyone gets screwed over, and its every man for himself?


    Unlike Exxon and stuff that we will never have control over , this is something small enough, important enough to try to and change and you could actually make a difference if your tude wasn't so gung ho. Not trying to bust balls but i just hate this "yeah right, like we can change world" bullshit. People have the power if they give themselves half a chance.

    But if you want to change something why start small. I mean blaming this one guy when the whole system is messed up is like blaming the guy on the corner for selling crack for the whole world-wide drug problem. Or to extend the oil company example, it is like blaming the guy pumping your gas for the high price of oil.
  • bicyclejoe
    bicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    sgossard3 wrote:
    to just up the print run is harmful to the legitimacy of the ARTISTS and their ART... itd be great if everyone could get one of these as easily as stickers... but from the artists' POV i understand why they dont want to just make 1,000,000 per show... its the difference between commercial art (advertisement, packaging etc) which isnt taken seriously by the art community and ART rock posters

    maybe a second variant run that could be distinguished from those sold at the show could be sold later in greater quantity... thats up to the artists though... theyd have to be able to handle the traffic... which we all know they cant :D

    I wouldn't buy a Pearl Jam gig poster that's mass produced. Lame idea.
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  • evenflowman
    evenflowman Posts: 1,347
    So is there anyway i can see the tape is it on youtube. Yet
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    I wouldn't buy a Pearl Jam gig poster that's mass produced. Lame idea.


    I am curious what difference does it make if there is 100 or 5000? Do you just like having something because you know other people don't have it?
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    But if you want to change something why start small. I mean blaming this one guy when the whole system is messed up is like blaming the guy on the corner for selling crack for the whole world-wide drug problem. Or to extend the oil company example, it is like blaming the guy pumping your gas for the high price of oil.


    Oh you are totally right..
    Why take down one problem if you cant take down them all *rolls eyes*
    That makes about as much sense as not wiping your ass because you are just gonna take a poop again :D

    But thats one less guy doing crack and selling it to the neighbor hood kids! Don't guys ever watch cops?
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