Obam,the oil companies and Re-election ???

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,843
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Point is, there are more economical options.

    Sure, there always are. That is not my objective though and I exersice my right to do it how i like. For someone to look at my lifestyle and get all bent because I burn more gas than them that's cool but I think it's foolish.

    That may be your right but is it responsible? What if (and I correct my figure from above) all 7,000,262,376 people on earth consumed at that rate? What kind of "lifestyle" would that create?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pjfan021
    pjfan021 Posts: 684
    Politicians shouldn't be talking about bringing the price of oil down, they should be talking about ways to get off it. Domestic oil production in this country is higher than before Obama got in office... We can't drill our way out of this. WE NEED ALTERNATE ENERGY SOURCES. No dem or rep can fix this issue by drilling more
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,843
    pjfan021 wrote:
    Politicians shouldn't be talking about bringing the price of oil down, they should be talking about ways to get off it. Domestic oil production in this country is higher than before Obama got in office... We can't drill our way out of this. WE NEED ALTERNATE ENERGY SOURCES. No dem or rep can fix this issue by drilling more

    Bingo! :thumbup:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    and PS - polaris' point of having to stop while fueling kind defeats your purpose. In fact, lugging al lthat fuel probably cuts down on your mpg anyways. But then again, who knows, maybe you have one of those low flying refueler aircraft that fills you while you're moving for more convenience? ;)

    Not at all, polaris does not make a relevant point with regard to my reserves. Completely misses it still actualy. Again, many of you are looking at it from your own lense. My fuel reserves only go with me in an emergency/"event". In such a scenario, I do not count on or expect to be able to re-fuel my vehicle through retail. Lilly pad number 3 is hundreds of miles from my home and lilly two is in the same geographical location so each (1 & 2) may be comprimised after an event. If you would like to discuss this further we can, because I am here to help.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Point is, there are more economical options.

    Sure, there always are. That is not my objective though and I exersice my right to do it how i like. For someone to look at my lifestyle and get all bent because I burn more gas than them that's cool but I think it's foolish.

    I, for one, am not too bent about this, but rather thankful that I considered all the options and put myself in a place where I cant complain about gas prices, as you did a few pages back.
    To each their own.

    I only get bent when I consider what would happen if everyone drove these monsters (as Brianlux points out). Actually, its nearly everyone in south florida driving these huge SUVs. And most dont need them. it is a symbol of excess in my area, no doubt. But that really has nothing to do with you.
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I do keep one 5 gallon in my bed for helping motorists who run out of gas. ;)
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    and PS - polaris' point of having to stop while fueling kind defeats your purpose. In fact, lugging al lthat fuel probably cuts down on your mpg anyways. But then again, who knows, maybe you have one of those low flying refueler aircraft that fills you while you're moving for more convenience? ;)

    Not at all, polaris does not make a relevant point with regard to my reserves. Completely misses it still actualy. Again, many of you are looking at it from your own lense. My fuel reserves only go with me in an emergency/"event". In such a scenario, I do not count on or expect to be able to re-fuel my vehicle through retail. Lilly pad number 3 is hundreds of miles from my home and lilly two is in the same geographical location so each (1 & 2) may be comprimised after an event. If you would like to discuss this further we can, because I am here to help.


    when are you going to be on Doomsday Preppers....? I'll be sure to tune in... :D
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    and PS - polaris' point of having to stop while fueling kind defeats your purpose. In fact, lugging al lthat fuel probably cuts down on your mpg anyways. But then again, who knows, maybe you have one of those low flying refueler aircraft that fills you while you're moving for more convenience? ;)

    Not at all, polaris does not make a relevant point with regard to my reserves. Completely misses it still actualy. Again, many of you are looking at it from your own lense. My fuel reserves only go with me in an emergency/"event". In such a scenario, I do not count on or expect to be able to re-fuel my vehicle through retail. Lilly pad number 3 is hundreds of miles from my home and lilly two is in the same geographical location so each (1 & 2) may be comprimised after an event. If you would like to discuss this further we can, because I am here to help.

    it was mostly a joke. see the: ;)
    Obviously, no one here knows your needs/demands. Whatever floats your boat of necessity.
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    perverted logic ???symbolic of the excess that plagues our western culture ....I have to disagree with you..but there is no point in debating over it you must be a sierra club member and would never see or understand anybody elses ideas or views on this subject.

    Godfather.

    :lol::lol: ... yes, i'm a treehugger ... come get some! ... haha

    tell me what reason is there to own an SUV? ... besides the ones I gave which most people who own SUV's don't do ...
    get some what ? and I have owned 3 SUV's and I have driven trucks all my life just about, try taking a load to the dump in your Vibe..I don't know about Canada but in San Diego it cost just as much for a car as it does a pick up, try hauling a Harley in the trunk of your Vibe of try taking 5 or 6 BMX Racers to a race in your Vibe..
    the reasons for owning a P/U or a SUV are endless but the most important one is....are you ready ? ...because I fucking can :lol: and that otta be good enough for anybody who feels they need to know.. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,843
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Point is, there are more economical options.

    Sure, there always are. That is not my objective though and I exersice my right to do it how i like. For someone to look at my lifestyle and get all bent because I burn more gas than them that's cool but I think it's foolish.

    I, for one, am not too bent about this, but rather thankful that I considered all the options and put myself in a place where I cant complain about gas prices, as you did a few pages back.
    To each their own.

    I only get bent when I consider what would happen if everyone drove these monsters (as Brianlux points out). Actually, its nearly everyone in south florida driving these huge SUVs. And most dont need them. it is a symbol of excess in my area, no doubt. But that really has nothing to do with you.

    Exactly. I live in the Sierra foothills in an area basically in the 1800 to 2200 ft elevation range. Over half the vehicles you see around here are monster trucks and SUV's that people drive because they "don't want to get stuck in the snow or mud". We get a day or two of snow here and the vast majority of our roads are paved. And most times I see people driving these things they are alone and carry no loads. It's total bullshit.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    if everyone toured as much as pearl jam could you imaging the amount of gas burnt?

    This line of reasoning is not how I roll. I don't feel bad for my lifestyle and I surely am not going to curb it because everyone else can't do it too.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Godfather. wrote:
    get some what ? and I have owned 3 SUV's and I have driven trucks all my life just about, try taking a load to the dump in your Vibe..I don't know about Canada but in San Diego it cost just as much for a car as it does a pick up, try hauling a Harley in the trunk of your Vibe of try taking 5 or 6 BMX Racers to a race in your Vibe..
    the reasons for owning a P/U or a SUV are endless but the most important one is....are you ready ? ...because I fucking can :lol: and that otta be good enough for anybody who feels they need to know.. :lol:

    Godfather.

    haha ... thanks for proving my point!
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The are not any bigger then mini-vans (of which I'm a big fan), pickups, etc. Choosing a smaller car is choosing to succumb to a known safety hazard of their limited visibility. :geek: ;)

    Cost of gas is the main impractical part of owning a SUV.

    cost of gas if money is all you care about ... by burning more gas it means more pollution and ghg into the air ...

    safety ratings for SUVs are not that good either
    Man, I have a Silverado right now so I can only dream of the fuel efficiency from my old SUV. :) I would love to have a Mini Cooper Sport for a second car, but that would be excess.

    And I'm not to worried about burning a few extra gallons of gas as I try to make my environmental impact on a large scale beyond what I'm personally capable of.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,843
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    if everyone toured as much as pearl jam could you imaging the amount of gas burnt?

    This line of reasoning is not how I roll. I don't feel bad for my lifestyle and I surely am not going to curb it because everyone else can't do it too.

    If every one toured there'd just be too much bad music out there. :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Godfather. wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    perverted logic ???symbolic of the excess that plagues our western culture ....I have to disagree with you..but there is no point in debating over it you must be a sierra club member and would never see or understand anybody elses ideas or views on this subject.

    Godfather.

    :lol::lol: ... yes, i'm a treehugger ... come get some! ... haha

    tell me what reason is there to own an SUV? ... besides the ones I gave which most people who own SUV's don't do ...
    get some what ? and I have owned 3 SUV's and I have driven trucks all my life just about, try taking a load to the dump in your Vibe..I don't know about Canada but in San Diego it cost just as much for a car as it does a pick up, try hauling a Harley in the trunk of your Vibe of try taking 5 or 6 BMX Racers to a race in your Vibe..
    the reasons for owning a P/U or a SUV are endless but the most important one is....are you ready ? ...because I fucking can :lol: and that otta be good enough for anybody who feels they need to know.. :lol:

    Godfather.

    yikes...why so testy Gfather... :lol:

    can you explain to me the need to haul a Harley...? serious question...can't you just ride the thing...?

    not sure about he BMX racers, aren't they just little bikes..I'm sure a P Vibe with a trailer hitch (and trailer) can tow some kids bikes....

    as for the dump...I just toss that shit in the neighbor's yard... :lol::lol::lol:
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Not at all, polaris does not make a relevant point with regard to my reserves. Completely misses it still actualy. Again, many of you are looking at it from your own lense. My fuel reserves only go with me in an emergency/"event". In such a scenario, I do not count on or expect to be able to re-fuel my vehicle through retail. Lilly pad number 3 is hundreds of miles from my home and lilly two is in the same geographical location so each (1 & 2) may be comprimised after an event. If you would like to discuss this further we can, because I am here to help.

    please help us as you say you want to ...

    what's your point when you ask if we can carry stuff you put on your roof in our car? ... what's your point when you choose to carry all your gas requirements when others don't? ... what's your point?
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Godfather. wrote:
    wonder if the oil companys or someone else in government is raising gas prices at this critical time to undermine Obama's re-election....
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... rice-soar/


    Obama says that it's the Republicans fault....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html


    Way to think it through BO

    saw this little cutie over the weekend. looks like you could play ping pong on top.

    hotwood.jpg

    Woot
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    if everyone toured as much as pearl jam could you imaging the amount of gas burnt?

    This line of reasoning is not how I roll. I don't feel bad for my lifestyle and I surely am not going to curb it because everyone else can't do it too.

    Pearl Jam plants trees and buys carbon offsets. Bad example unless you're doing the same for your energy usage.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I figured the carbon offset comment would come up. LOL.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    inmytree; ha ha noo not testy at all just having a good laugh..knock on wood..I have never had to put my bikes in a truck yet..but I have helped friends and even bought a few basket case bikes and let me tell ya brother a full basket case will not fit in a vibe :lol::lol:

    Godfather.

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