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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    pandora wrote:
    this is what happens when people are put on foe :lol:

    I read the OP's article ... short and sweet and to the point and gave my opinion was still hoping gimme would explain his though I was interested as always in his opinion
    you replied directly to me in this thread and are always interested in gimme's opinion....gimme posted the article and I mentioned it twice, so..... who is on foe and how did it prevent you from reading the article? :?

    Talk about confirmation bias..... you mention the 'short and sweet' fox news article, posted by a friend....while dodging/continuing to ignore (or being too lazy to read) the comments and articles that don't fit your agenda. Sounds about right.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Here's a fitting song (give it a listen- it's only a minute-nine!) for those of you who could use an antidote to despair to this very possible disaster-of-Titanic-portions:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6geVEciAP9w

    Mutiny In Jonestown

    Cast off
    Me in these ropes
    I'm one knot
    Tangled in the heap
    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams
    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams

    The ship's creaking
    Taking on bullshit
    I fucking scream
    Jump ship!

    -Minutemen
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    I actually hopped over to them doing Aint Talkin Bout Love cover. :lol:


    " I aint got no time to mess around"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    I actually hopped over to them doing Aint Talkin Bout Love cover. :lol:


    " I aint got no time to mess around"
    :lol:

    Yeah, I love that band!

    Don't mean to hijack the thread, just trying to find a little peace of mind. I'm outta here for a while.

    Peace, all.... and good luck.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Peace.


    :lol:
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    pandora wrote:

    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing

    so does war. is war a good thing too because it creates jobs? before you accuse me of derailing the thread, my point is that you can't say it's a positive on the single notion that it creates jobs. that's very short sighted.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing

    so does war. is war a good thing too because it creates jobs? before you accuse me of derailing the thread, my point is that you can't say it's a positive on the single notion that it creates jobs. that's very short sighted.


    Excellent point, Hugh.

    It seems that every time the issue of oil pipe lines comes up the standard (and oft' repeated) response is- jobs. Of course most people need and want jobs. But if nobody did the bloody and destructive jobs of war and oil I guarantee other jobs would be created. Maybe even jobs that would create more peace, less environmental degradation to the planet, more goodwill, more health, more happiness in the world while at the same time providing the person doing the work with a reasonably comfortable and secure life . But maybe I don't understand what the purpose of a "job" is.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i am sorry everyone. i am also confused, irritated and about 3/4 ready to slap people silly.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i believe full on with environmental friendship with the raw earth. no roads. no more cities. no more erecting steel and glass jungles. get the fuck off of me.

    don't you believe we have enough oil wells, pipelines and refineries? have any of you even ever been inside the bowels of a refinery? no you have not. it is fucked believe that. i do not know how they can work there and breathe at the same fucking time. work or breathe? me personally, i'll elect breathing everytime. for some reason i enjoy fresh clean air and a breeze of freshness and really clean oxygen.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Which is the short one? :?

    http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/unite ... es_map.jpg
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    when the refinery off southern L.A. fucks up who is gonna be screwed? southern California, Mexico, and so on.
    i delivered pipe to this refinery by way of my 18 wheeler and using a flat bed trailer. it stunk and i couldn't breathe like i would outside the cluserfuck of pipe, boilers, exchange bubblers, input adaptors, and singular fueled enhancers that break down the molecular weight of a positive and negative changed atoms
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    CH156378 wrote:
    Which is the short one? :?

    http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/unite ... es_map.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: (That chorus again)

    :shock: Fuck me! I mean, fuck us.... I mean, FUCK!

    I'm gonna get it trouble. I'm going to my corner.

    bye :|
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    I made the joke even the chorus of F... was heard and sung down in AET cage. Im in the mood for "People have the Power" ;)
  • Corso
    Corso so poor I can't afford to comment on the PJ forum Posts: 201
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Pipelines create very few permanent jobs.
    Agreed. Most infrastructure projects are like that. Building new refineries in Canada will create long-term jobs and that is where the focus should be.
    I agree that Alberta should refine oil and let the eastern (southern?) bastards freeze in the dark ;)
    Seriously tho...we should have had that infrastructure here a couple decades ago....
    I'm not the type to think we can just jump from oil to renewable resources overnight...in the meantime, there will need to be some expansion to oil infrastructure. But I think these pipelines are more about getting refined oil to the gulf coast (and to a tax free port), than they are about any kind of benefit to average Canadians or Americans (as evidenced by the article gimme posted - think I posted something similar in the keystone thread). That means that when agreeing to these projects, it shouldn't just be lip service to minimizing environmental damage....we need to recognize that we have a problem, environmentally and economically...and develop a plan to ween ourselves off of oil. This prob won't happen until the government removes oil subsidies, and effectively transfers them to green industry. Which, of course, won’t happen until we get the Oil lobby out of our governments. Which wont happen until there is a massive overhaul of the entire political structure. Which won’t happen until there is full-scale revolution. Yup, we’re fucked! :)
    A full-scale revolution is not possible in a large country that is divided as the USA.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    now war= pipelines :?
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    there is a difference between a revolution and war

    a spirit of a revolution though can turn into war because of the backlash of people who dont like change
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I was speaking as far as jobs go...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    pandora wrote:
    I was speaking as far as jobs go...
    the military is the only area in the government that is always hiring....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I was speaking as far as jobs go...
    the military is the only area in the government that is always hiring....

    Didn't they just announce a reduction in staff over the next few years?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I was speaking as far as jobs go...
    the military is the only area in the government that is always hiring....
    I think the crime labs and related fields are also

    and yes I heard that was announced... cutting personnel ... troops

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