shorter pipe line is a go !

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    no need to be rude Chadwick

    you may be out of touch with those unemployed I fear it is not by choice for everyone
    nor has everyone who has had an educated profession been able to go back to it


    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing
    rude shmood. i am fed up with people like you who support more oil wells and more pipelines. why aren't you in the gulf of mexico sittin on your ass scratchin yourself in the sun whilst your poor ol' hubby drill baby drill?

    you are not an environmentalist
    Chadwick you are getting heated and off topic and rather personal....
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    no need to be rude Chadwick

    you may be out of touch with those unemployed I fear it is not by choice for everyone
    nor has everyone who has had an educated profession been able to go back to it


    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing
    rude shmood. i am fed up with people like you who support more oil wells and more pipelines. why aren't you in the gulf of mexico sittin on your ass scratchin yourself in the sun whilst your poor ol' hubby drill baby drill?

    you are not an environmentalist
    Chadwick you are getting heated and off topic and rather personal....
    im not heated whatsoever. fact is you are blinded by something i cannot grasp. my hands are clean when it comes to oil drilling ruining this planet. yes i use gas. no we do not need more oil wells, refineries, and more pipelines.

    you do not know what the fuck you are even voting for. you just jump in head first spouting,"new jobs, new jobs."

    don't be that naive, pandora
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    no need to be rude Chadwick

    you may be out of touch with those unemployed I fear it is not by choice for everyone
    nor has everyone who has had an educated profession been able to go back to it


    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing
    rude shmood. i am fed up with people like you who support more oil wells, refineries, and more pipelines. why aren't you in the gulf of mexico sittin on your ass scratchin yourself in the sun whilst your poor ol' hubby drill baby drill?

    you are not an environmentalist


    chad you need to remember your med's, who the hell do you think you are ? you and sweet child seem to have fell off the freakin edge...both of you need to get a grip, nobody attacked you, either of you but still both of you act like ...fuck it you guys just waller in your own hate and discust and enjoy.

    Godfather.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Godfather. wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    no need to be rude Chadwick

    you may be out of touch with those unemployed I fear it is not by choice for everyone
    nor has everyone who has had an educated profession been able to go back to it


    this pipeline will create jobs that is a positive I see that as a very good thing
    rude shmood. i am fed up with people like you who support more oil wells, refineries, and more pipelines. why aren't you in the gulf of mexico sittin on your ass scratchin yourself in the sun whilst your poor ol' hubby drill baby drill?

    you are not an environmentalist


    chad you need to remember your med's, who the hell do you think you are ? you and sweet child seem to have fell off the freakin edge...both of you need to get a grip, nobody attacked you, either of you but still both of you act like ...fuck it you guys just waller in your own hate and discust and enjoy.

    Godfather.
    woah... :wave: OP not on the edge or otherwise not any hate from me

    just stating what I think about the pipeline

    I am in favor of it being built and in favor of the temporary or otherwise jobs it will create...
    it's going to be a positive I think it was the plan all along
    you think so too GF?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Jason P wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Pipelines create very few permanent jobs.
    Agreed. Most infrastructure projects are like that. Building new refineries in Canada will create long-term jobs and that is where the focus should be.
    I agree that Alberta should refine oil and let the eastern (southern?) bastards freeze in the dark ;)
    Seriously tho...we should have had that infrastructure here a couple decades ago....
    I'm not the type to think we can just jump from oil to renewable resources overnight...in the meantime, there will need to be some expansion to oil infrastructure. But I think these pipelines are more about getting refined oil to the gulf coast (and to a tax free port), than they are about any kind of benefit to average Canadians or Americans (as evidenced by the article gimme posted - think I posted something similar in the keystone thread). That means that when agreeing to these projects, it shouldn't just be lip service to minimizing environmental damage....we need to recognize that we have a problem, environmentally and economically...and develop a plan to ween ourselves off of oil. This prob won't happen until the government removes oil subsidies, and effectively transfers them to green industry. Which, of course, won’t happen until we get the Oil lobby out of our governments. Which wont happen until there is a massive overhaul of the entire political structure. Which won’t happen until there is full-scale revolution. Yup, we’re fucked! :)
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    pandora wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I think the roads here too not permanent jobs that the President has created
    Is that on topic?
    its about jobs I believe which is why I support the pipeline :thumbup:
    This is about jobs? Not really…you made it about jobs.….then deflected criticism of the job angle, and avoiding replying to it, by changing the topic to other projects you disagree with. Your knee-jerk contrarian nature is showing….. And you’re still missing/avoiding my point. I’m guessing this might create a couple dozen permanent jobs, tops, plus some temp work…….there are better ways to create jobs than pipelines and roads. Sustainable jobs, sustainable energy. Entire industries to be built. You're also ignoring the negative economic impact gimme posted.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.
    please could you elaborate
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.


    I think someone sneezed in Russia so gas prices are probably going up anyway
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    pandora wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.
    please could you elaborate
    Read the article at the top of the page (2)....you know the one with the big text headline that reads "Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices"? :lol: I mentioned it in my previous post to you as well.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    pandora wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.
    please could you elaborate
    this is what happens when people do not read the thread....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    this is what happens when people are put on foe :lol:

    I read the OP's article ... short and sweet and to the point and gave my opinion was still hoping gimme would explain his though I was interested as always in his opinion
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.
    Talking about gas prices raises gas prices.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    I can't reply directly to this thread because every thought in my head starts with f... or s...

    They say when a ship goes down there is a terrible noise. Can you hear it?
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  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    polaris_x wrote:
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    this is how I feel right now... dont EVER FKING come find me EVER EVER AGAIN to help your solve problems... you all dont listen anyway, so whats the use?

    Every person on the damn planet knows this pipeline and tar sands are the final death knell to the planet, I curse you and your families for an eternity to sit in your hells you created with no chance of ever leaving... :twisted:

    Im serious..the octopus of hell is yours.

    we have forsaken the gods of nature and peace in order to worship the evils of greed ...
    its the sad truth
    :D I had to go back to sleep.... tired of everyone's chit AND if I saw that below in the state I was in
    I would have thrown my laptop in the fkin garbage ...........................................


    "but it will create jobs though... goody goody gumdrops!"
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    brianlux wrote:
    I can't reply directly to this thread because every thought in my head starts with f... or s...

    They say when a ship goes down there is a terrible noise. Can you hear it?
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    its a chorus of" fuck *
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I can't reply directly to this thread because every thought in my head starts with f... or s...

    They say when a ship goes down there is a terrible noise. Can you hear it?
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    its a chorus of" fuck *

    :lol:

    I'm laughing fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking crying at the same time.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.

    maybe i'm reading the end of that article wrong, but doesn't it say at the end that the discount in gas that the Midwest sees will be going away by the end of the year even without a pipeline because a northbound pipeline from Houston will be reversed to ease the bottleneck? If that's the case, then you can't really blame a new pipeline for the end of the discounted price.
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Brian has just said the Mother of all swear words! :lol:


    I tell you when i see the world I dont know whether to laugh or cry.
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Monster Rain wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its gonna raise gas prices...

    wrong idea at this time.

    maybe i'm reading the end of that article wrong, but doesn't it say at the end that the discount in gas that the Midwest sees will be going away by the end of the year even without a pipeline because a northbound pipeline from Houston will be reversed to ease the bottleneck? If that's the case, then you can't really blame a new pipeline for the end of the discounted price.
    Speculators and whore oil is gonna raise the gas prices, doesnt matter .... f****not going to create jobs and if they do its for the few pipeliners that work the trade....


    so

    if this a ploy to get Lucy Lawless to hang suspended over Texas refineries in protest its not going to happen

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