Reference to Jeremy Lin and PJ

NewJPage · February 2012

Raiden wrote:

Ha ha. RM clearly has no idea. Will be interesting to see what shit he comes up with this time to discredit Lin. I live in Australia and still know more about NBA then RM.

doubt he will be back in this thread. if he does reappear he will deny saying most of what he said...at least that's what he usually does :roll:

mookieblalock · February 2012

Shocking RM22 hasn't returned

Jeremys Spoken · February 2012

MSG Network, totally just played "Jeremy" over highlights..

81 · February 2012

josevolution wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

HOW ABOUT CALLING HIM A FLUKE NOW. HOW BOUT THAT? YOU ARE A JOKE.

Yeah really where are you RM22 & 81 ...

Dallas is over rated.....

81 · February 2012

mookieblalock wrote:

I think 81 was being objective from what I read. No problem with anything he said.

i rule

thanks

Jeremys Spoken · February 2012

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

81 · February 2012

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

and did a great job of shutting down deron

Jeremys Spoken · February 2012

81 wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

and did a great job of shutting down deron

I'll trade you Charles Oakley, and John Starks for Rose...

RiotZact · February 2012

81 wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

and did a great job of shutting down deron

What defender do you know of that can shut down a guy that shoots 8-14 from 3 point range? I'm rooting against the guy too (because I hate the knicks) but you can't deny the fact that he is playing great basketball, we don't know what will happen tomorrow or next week or 5 years from now but we do know that he is playing lights out right now, lets quit trying to throw out his TO stats or (now) the stats of the guy he's guarding to try to and counter the fact that he's playing great.

81 · February 2012

RiotZact wrote:

81 wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

and did a great job of shutting down deron

What defender do you know of that can shut down a guy that shoots 8-14 from 3 point range? I'm rooting against the guy too (because I hate the knicks) but you can't deny the fact that he is playing great basketball, we don't know what will happen tomorrow or next week or 5 years from now but we do know that he is playing lights out right now, lets quit trying to throw out his TO stats or (now) the stats of the guy he's guarding to try to and counter the fact that he's playing great.

i honestly don't care what he does, good or bad.

but defense is part of the game, as is ball control, ie turnovers, and you can't dismiss those stats when looking at the total value of a player....

i will say...linsantiy hasn't reached chicago yet....we have't had a knicks game in like 10 days or so.

81 · February 2012

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

81 wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

Still had 21 and 9 with the loss.

and did a great job of shutting down deron

I'll trade you Charles Oakley, and John Starks for Rose...

we already had both those players here.

RiotZact · February 2012

81 wrote:

i honestly don't care what he does, good or bad.

but defense is part of the game, as is ball control, ie turnovers, and you can't dismiss those stats when looking at the total value of a player....

i will say...linsantiy hasn't reached chicago yet....we have't had a knicks game in like 10 days or so.

I understand that but even with the TOs he is still playing great, and Williams made 8 three pointers, how do you stop that unless your a lot taller than him? The guy was hot and there was no stopping him, at least not completely.

81 · February 2012

RiotZact wrote:

81 wrote:

i honestly don't care what he does, good or bad.

but defense is part of the game, as is ball control, ie turnovers, and you can't dismiss those stats when looking at the total value of a player....

i will say...linsantiy hasn't reached chicago yet....we have't had a knicks game in like 10 days or so.

I understand that but even with the TOs he is still playing great, and Williams made 8 three pointers, how do you stop that unless your a lot taller than him? The guy was hot and there was no stopping him, at least not completely.

we didn't get the game, so i can't say what happened....but i'm guessing, getting in his face helps a little bit

i don't know if it was a rotation issue, pick and rolls were defenders switched or if jeremy was scared of the drive by.

at one point tonight lin was 5 of 15....he made 2 of his last 3 to make it look respectable

RiotZact · February 2012

So you don't think he's playing well? I didn't watch the game either so I guess I really shouldn't be talking but check out these highlights, they only show 3 of Williams' shots and Lin isn't guarding him in any of them, that's certainly not all the shots he made but it's 8 points worth of them that Lin had nothing to do with.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=320220018

81 · February 2012

RiotZact wrote:

So you don't think he's playing well? I didn't watch the game either so I guess I really shouldn't be talking but check out these highlights, they only show 3 of Williams' shots and Lin isn't guarding him in any of them, that's certainly not all the shots he made but it's 8 points worth of them that Lin had nothing to do with.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=320220018

imo...

he should have dropped the ball off to the player on the left on the 3 on 1 fast break. on the first assist it was a nice pass, on the other assist the showed he tossed it to the wide open guy on the right...that's was kind of a duh play.

on the deron pull up 3, i don't think i saw lin on the floor....

on the last deron shot, he had chanler on him....which would have been the pick and roll i noted earlier, which ended with a switch.

can we see his 11 or 12 misses?

he's generally playing well....but i'm not sold on linsanitity. he's been way over hyped and shoved down our collective throats this last week.

RiotZact · February 2012

I completely agree with you, it is being waaaaay overdone, but that doesn't mean that there is no credit due to him, and I agree that he should have passed it on that 3 on 1, seemed kinda selfish. And yeah he had an off shooting night but so does literally every other person in the NBA sometimes.

mookieblalock · February 2012

81 - I take back my statement about you being objective.

The Lin hype is ridiculous; I agree, but the guy has done NOTHING but produce and he is showing no sign of letting up. At this point you have to believe he is legit until proven otherwise rather than the converse.

Forget the fact that most individuals who have experience either coaching or playing in the league tend to concur that he is going to be a very good player; guys like Magic Johnson for example. Now who am I going to believe, guys like Magic Johnson, who know the game, or Bulls fans who critique players without watching the game?

mookieblalock · February 2012

For the record, if you bothered watching the game, or if you bothered to reserve judgment until you knew the facts, you would have known that Lin played off the ball tonight and was not defending Deron Williams for most of the night, except coming of screens, etc..

Attributing Williams' 38 points to lackluster defense by Lin is just ignorant. If you don't get the game in Chicago, then don't comment on the game unless you just want to look biased.

The_Giant_Midget · February 2012

shumpert didnt play tonight and he usually covers the other teams best guard, not that lin cant defend but usually not his job

81 · February 2012

mookieblalock wrote:

81 - I take back my statement about you being objective.

The Lin hype is ridiculous; I agree, but the guy has done NOTHING but produce and he is showing no sign of letting up. At this point you have to believe he is legit until proven otherwise rather than the converse.

Forget the fact that most individuals who have experience either coaching or playing in the league tend to concur that he is going to be a very good player; guys like Magic Johnson for example. Now who am I going to believe, guys like Magic Johnson, who know the game, or Bulls fans who critique players without watching the game?

magic was raggin on him the other night...saying he was trying to do too much.

i only critiqued the plays i saw in the highlights that were posted. in the plays highlighted, he had a nice pass to his left over a couple of defenders...on the other assist, the dude was wide open. duh. give it to him. i'd comment on more plays, but i've not had any knicks games to watch out here. next time there is a knicks game on, i'll watch it, so long as it doesn't run up agaist a bulls game

on the fast break, he should have dropped it off to the guy on the left wing, instead, he made it a more difficult shot.

he's playing decent and could have a nice career. at this point, i don't see him being anything more than a media superstar, although that's not to say he can't be.

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