**Berkeley Fanviews Here 04/07**

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  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    edwho wrote:
    Dear Crazy Mary,

    We respect everyone’s point of view here and encourage both pro and con Fanviews. The personal attack in that post of yours, directed at this young artist, was totally out of line and hurtful. I was hurt just reading it.

    Please remember supporting a future legend with a devoted following is a hard enough task. And then possibly coming here and having to read a personal insult like yours can be potentially crushing to some. It takes quite a bit of courage to do what Liam and E.J. are doing. They’re putting a lot on the line up there hoping to entertain and win over a few E.V. fanatics.

    I think you should take it back and apologize. This would take courage from you. I hope you have it.

    Sincerely, edwho
    wholeheartedly agree with this. if you don't like the supporting act, fine...then leave after the first song and go out in the lobby and have a beer or a glass of wine or something if it's THAT torturous to you. i've done that before for opening acts i didn't like. just a matter of respect. it takes a brass set to open for someone like ed. no need to bash the guy and EJ...which wasn't even based on the music but something personal...low class.

    i saw liam last year when he was on tour with crowded house and was blown away then. he was just as much an incentive for me to see these shows as ed was, quite frankly.

    the 2nd night, when he announced that his set was about over, i actually heard people around me say 'awwww', like they were disappointed his set was over....how often do you hear that about an opening act?!

    so yeah, sure he isn't everybody's cup of tea, but just wanted to throw in more liam and EJ love here cuz they're deserving of it. looking forward to the bottom of the hill gig next month!
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    chiquimonkey wrote:
    wholeheartedly agree with this. if you don't like the supporting act, fine...then leave after the first song and go out in the lobby and have a beer or a glass of wine or something if it's THAT torturous to you. i've done that before for opening acts i didn't like. just a matter of respect.

    Man, I wish everyone had this philosophy ... I've had bad experiences at PJ shows with openers ... most notably, the Buzzcocks, people were just not digging them yet would not be respectful to those of us that *love* those guys.

    I can't think of one bad opener at a PJ show I've been to ... all have been fantastic ... but, if it's not your "cup of tea" ... let the others around you enjoy it.

    Overall, I think most of the crowd really enjoyed Liam .... and there was certianly a buzz in the air before the 2nd Berekeley show about him.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    jimed14 wrote:
    Man, I wish everyone had this philosophy ... I've had bad experiences at PJ shows with openers ... most notably, the Buzzcocks, people were just not digging them yet would not be respectful to those of us that *love* those guys.

    I can't think of one bad opener at a PJ show I've been to ... all have been fantastic ... but, if it's not your "cup of tea" ... let the others around you enjoy it.

    Overall, I think most of the crowd really enjoyed Liam .... and there was certianly a buzz in the air before the 2nd Berekeley show about him.

    I agree. I can't think of an opener for PJ that I hated (Urge Overkill, The Ramones, Supergrass, Idlewild, Sonic Youth, Liam Finn (w/Ed). I actually became a big fan of Idlewild from seeing them.
    But even if I didn't like the opening band I would show them respect.

    I agree. I think there was a buzz about Liam at Berkeley 1, at least where I was. I ran into him while we were waiting to go to our seats and shook his hand and said I really enjoyed him in Santa Cruz.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Kushikushun
    Kushikushun Posts: 1,263
    jimed14 wrote:
    as stated in this, or the other thread, the lack of singing during "No More" was stunning ... jaw dropping stunning.

    Let's pick it up tonight people. :D

    Ahhh, well I reckon you need some Dutchies for that!! (see No More live at Nijmegen 07) :D:D
    Why not be mediocre and be the best at it that you can be?
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    yeaahh, see i pay all these taxes here in the U.S. and yeah, i don't really use a lot of the services provided, ok maybe some schools and roads, a park or two, but i'm not really a key customer for the federal govt here, so you know.... singing out against war, yeah...

    I like my gun camera footage when I can get it.
    [sic] happens
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    acutejam wrote:
    yeaahh, see i pay all these taxes here in the U.S. and yeah, i don't really use a lot of the services provided, ok maybe some schools and roads, a park or two, but i'm not really a key customer for the federal govt here, so you know.... singing out against war, yeah...

    I like my gun camera footage when I can get it.

    What are you talking about?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    rrivers wrote:
    What are you talking about?

    just making lame excuses for why i didn't sing on monday :-(
    ie the only part of my taxpayer money i enjoy ... is war. And he wants me to sing against it? Stop my gun camera footage (the videos released by the pentagon from inside cockpits and tanks etc)?

    i'll just keep that to myself perhaps....
    oh ... wait.
    [sic] happens
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Yeah I think it was this thread -- here's a chroncile photo, you can kinda sorta see the photo leaning up against the table behind the corona case!

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/04/09/DDAG101SSK.DTL&o=0

    kinda? was that yours, person who said you gave it to ed after SC?
    [sic] happens
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Ed looking at his harmonica holder: I just had an idea, I could put a smoke in one of these holder things. it would be a much smaller holder too, just so big...

    [driftin]
    [sic] happens
  • PineappleAna
    PineappleAna Posts: 255
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    he needs to cut that cig shit out soon. If he fucks up that gorgeous voice of his, I will be really sad. If nothing else, he should quit for his little girl. When my dad quit smoking my sister and I were so happy....


    I think they might be HELPING him! His voice was golden wasn't it?



    I've officially declared that Foxymop was played, he did the voice, it counts!

    now that is a rarity
  • PineappleAna
    PineappleAna Posts: 255
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    I concur! Foxymop was played and we were there :-)

    so I just need them to break out pry to, aye davantia, and bugs and I'll have heard all of vitalogy!
  • mookie_in_eugene
    mookie_in_eugene Posts: 1,090
    PineappleAna wrote:
    so I just need them to break out pry to, aye davantia, and bugs and I'll have heard all of vitalogy!

    Wow! You're really trying to stretch with foxymop, but that's ok. :)
    "Underneath this smile lies everything - all my hopes, anger, pride and shame."
  • PineappleAna
    PineappleAna Posts: 255
    mookie_in_eugene wrote:
    Wow! You're really trying to stretch with foxymop, but that's ok. :)

    he did the spanking voice, in my head that counts
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    PineappleAna wrote:
    he did the spanking voice, in my head that counts
    that works for me. besides i'm not sure if i can handle that entire song live...it scares meee :o lol
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    gtrplyr wrote:
    I think his issue was with recruiting stations on college campuses or right next to them...basically preying on the impressionable/broke students. Its great to raise your kids right, but a college freshman out on his own for the first time with no money who hasn't decided what to do with his life is a good target for the military. IMO school should be for learning...not signing up to shoot guns.

    We're talking about UC Berkeley here, one of the finest public universities in the country. I don't think parents have to worry too much about their child at Berkeley getting snowed by some Marine recruiter.
  • _Crazy_Mary_
    _Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    edwho wrote:

    I think you should take it back and apologize. This would take courage from you. I hope you have it.

    Where have you been? Did you not read this:

    Ok, in retrospect, I realize I should have kept those thoughts to myself. My husband even said as I was writing it not to write that. I had just gotten home after no sleep the night before and traveling and I was bitter after having sat in those seats for 3.5 hours. I was venting and I should have known I'd be attacked for it, but I still had to get it off my chest. The end.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • edwho
    edwho Posts: 811
    Crazy Mary,

    All I see in that post are excuses.

    I am finished with this.

    Fanviews are a sharing celebration of live Pearl Jam and I refuse to spoil the joy being generated by Ed’s first solo tour.

    Take care, edwho

    Three Fish

    July 1996 San Francisco

    June 1999 Chicago

  • _Crazy_Mary_
    _Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    edwho wrote:
    Fanviews are a sharing celebration of live Pearl Jam and I refuse to spoil the joy being generated by Ed’s first solo tour.

    thank you, I agree

    Ed was great
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • ScottZeagle
    ScottZeagle Posts: 169
    The recording has surfaced...

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5361393&postcount=1
  • LeftThePorch315
    LeftThePorch315 Posts: 56
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