And that's part of the problem; an overwhelming amount of people attacking a system to get precious and limited tickets. I do see these problems as a beginning to an end of what we know of things to be right now. These problems can't continue. The number of people demanding entitlement is overwhelming, as well as a server not being able to handle the insane traffic, sabotage, or whatever. I bet things are going to change, and I don't think it'll be more 10c tix to be had. The demand for tickets and 10c's inability to please everyone is totally insane. And I am not defending 10c here. I'm just observing how the fans are part of the problem in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly. We better ease of the gas here as members our the frickin motor is going to blow. What happened happened and hopefully over the winter things can be addressed but blasting the club with thread after thread right now is just not good.
What will happen if do keep the foot on the gas?....
but if you were to buy a boot with a song missing you'd be the first to start a Song X Missing From Show X WTF!!!!!:
Kind of take offense to this. I have actually never posted anything bashing the fan club other than the price of the PJ20 book which was cheaper else where, so you know what I did, I purchased it elsewhere. I may joke which is my nature, but I have never out right bitched about the club, you know why? I have the right to walk away at anytime like anyone else. They aren't holding me here. What they offer me is something much more than tickets and what some people call cheap merchandise. This forum is well worth the membership fees. I have talked about things with members here over the past ten months that I haven't talked about with my friends or family. I see people getting random gifts and donations from other members in times of need. I read stories daily here of people going through tough times and be lifted up by other members. That shit is priceless to me. Not the bitching. If a member thinks something is overpriced...don't buy it. You have no use for the Christmas single, send it to someone who can appreciate it. If people don't understand your analog shirt, screw it who cares?? I feel the Ten Club will figure this out.
If tickets were to disappear from 10 club I know I will still be a member.
Granted I've only been here for a few years but I've been going to shows since 2000 (I'm young )
Being from europe I had the massive wait for them to play here between 2000 and 06. After the 09 tour I joined the club thinking that there's no way they would be back so soon after playing here 06,07,09 but then they came back in in 2010. The pre-sale was great but I was a member not expecting shows. After the 2010 tour I knew it would be 3 or 4 more years but no they're back again!
I guess my point is that I'm a european member who is expecting to not see them over here for a while yet I renew for other reasons.
It's nice to get the vinyl and magazine through the door. Opening the envelope with the seattle address kind of feels old school, like it's being run from one of their friends bedrooms. Plus this year we got new perks in the shape of a tshirt (alright so there's debate over the design but next year's could be awesome), PJ radio which I regularly have on in the background, a free bootleg download coupon (still haven't picked which one to go for yet maybe the canada one when REM split up or maybe hold out for alpine valley), some nice exclusive merch (not all is limited, look at the 10 of clubs hoodie I wear that almost daily), I managed to get the deluxe version of the PJ20 film not available elsewhere too.
If there wasn't a tour this year I would have still felt that the membership fee was worth it this year.
It definitely feels like this club is run from a bedroom. Also, I think its nice that they play Europe, but jeez it seems to be more than the US and we've still got states they've never played in their 20 years. Maybe I"m just upset because its been 5 years since I've gotten the chance to see the band, especially since I'm in Alaska right now and they probably never will tour here. I just shake my head when people who've seen the band 10, 20, 30, 40 times get so worked up about missing out on tix. Must be real rough.
And that's part of the problem; an overwhelming amount of people attacking a system to get precious and limited tickets. I do see these problems as a beginning to an end of what we know of things to be right now. These problems can't continue. The number of people demanding entitlement is overwhelming, as well as a server not being able to handle the insane traffic, sabotage, or whatever. I bet things are going to change, and I don't think it'll be more 10c tix to be had. The demand for tickets and 10c's inability to please everyone is totally insane. And I am not defending 10c here. I'm just observing how the fans are part of the problem in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly. We better ease of the gas here as members our the frickin motor is going to blow. What happened happened and hopefully over the winter things can be addressed but blasting the club with thread after thread right now is just not good.
What will happen if do keep the foot on the gas?....
Who knows...could be an email from the TenClub saying something like "We are pleased to announce a 14 show US Pearl Jam tour this fall. Unfortunately the Ten Club will not be able to offer pre-sale tickets. Enjoy LiveNation. We would like to point out that we have a Limited Edition Blue Ray and DVD deluxe set from Alpine Valley weekend available for purchase for $399. If you think that's too much you can try your luck on Ebay. The bidding starts there at $350. Enjoy the tour"!
Try it. No 10Club Tickets = No 10 Club....as has been mentioned.
There was a Ten CLub for five years before they had any ticket offers and pretty much before the boom of the internet. If they turn their direction toward merchandise they could keep going just as easily as they are now without listening to people bitching about tickets. You have looked at Ebay correct? All that limited edition stuff? You do see what it sells for correct? What if the Ten Club just did away with tickets and doubled the price of merchandise and/or started selling on Ebay directly? You don't think they can make up for the lost membership dues? In fucking spades they could.
I agree.
Do a look-up on what the limited vinyl edition of Live at Benaroya Hall goes for lately? I saw bids posted as high as $700 to $800+ for it; and as I recall, that was only available to 10C members.
Lots of 10C members sell their vinyl and other merchandise on eBay, Discogs, etc for way more than they bought it for, so it does pay to be a 10C member; I too would be curious as to how much the 10C could make if they were ever to take that path (with pre-sale tickets included.)
Lots of $$$$$.
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I hate that that's the way you feel. For my 40 bucks or whatever it is I get PJ Radio which is definately worth something. I get access to these forums with other awesome PJ fans which is definately worth something. I get a Christmas single which is worth something. I get a newsletter which is worth something...see what I'm getting at. 40 bucks a year is a couple of cases of beer. Let the powers that be explore what went wrong this time. Pushing their buttons and calling for people's heads isn't going to change what happened already.
Usually I would tell you to go to bed Dave but I actually really agree with you! Tickets are actually the least important reason why I come here!
Well thank you! Now go read a book...the people on this forum will do nothing but corrupt and destroy a yound mind. :P
If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....
Jeremy
I can honestly say I'm not a member for the faint hope I might get 10c tix. Living in Australia means there is very rarely an opportunity to take advantage of these sales.
I've been a member for going on 9 years and have only ever gotten 10c tix twice back in '06. I'm heading over for Europe next year and will be just as happy with regular tix.
I think there would be alot of members in the same position as me.
If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....
Jeremy
I can honestly say I'm not a member for the faint hope I might get 10c tix. Living in Australia means there is very rarely an opportunity to take advantage of these sales.
I've been a member for going on 9 years and have only ever gotten 10c tix twice back in '06. I'm heading over for Europe next year and will be just as happy with regular tix.
I think there would be alot of members in the same position as me.
Sure there would be some fans who would stay in the fan club...But, are you still going to 40 bucks....For a newsletter, fan club single etc?...
I also hate how they don't embrace technology, there isn't even a Pearl Jam Facebook page to keep us updated, that shit is so friggin easy..Should look at Metallica and others.
You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
This is like, the biggest factor here. It's not about the bitching. It's the entitlement issues. Since fans refuse to compromise their issues with entitlement, then they should recognize their choices here, because we've been complaining for years for better service with little being done. At this point, fans need to realize that they have two choices here:
a. Deal with it.
b. stop paying 10c your god damn money.
You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
This is like, the biggest factor here. It's not about the bitching. It's the entitlement issues. Since fans refuse to compromise their issues with entitlement, then they should recognize their choices here, because we've been complaining for years for better service with little being done. At this point, fans need to realize that they have two choices here:
a. Deal with it.
b. stop paying 10c your god damn money.
The 10c will always have the power..If they keep doing 10c tickets....If they quit doing the 10c tickets?...It will be pretty much a pearl jam online merchandise stand...Which it is pretty much now..
I also hate how they don't embrace technology, there isn't even a Pearl Jam Facebook page to keep us updated, that shit is so friggin easy..Should look at Metallica and others.
There actually is an official PJ Facebook page, plus Mike has his own account.
You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
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You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
This is like, the biggest factor here. It's not about the bitching. It's the entitlement issues. Since fans refuse to compromise their issues with entitlement, then they should recognize their choices here, because we've been complaining for years for better service with little being done. At this point, fans need to realize that they have two choices here:
a. Deal with it.
b. stop paying 10c your god damn money.
The 10c will always have the power..If they keep doing 10c tickets....If they quit doing the 10c tickets?...It will be pretty much a pearl jam online merchandise stand...Which it is pretty much now..
Only YOU allow them that power. That's your choice.
ticket pre sales are overrated. who cares if you get front row, or 74th, at a concert? you're seeing the same show. i would understand if the pre sales had tickets that allowed you to sit side stage.. now that would be worth fighting for.
OP: you do realize that for every 100,000 members, the 10c brings in about $3,000,000 (based on 50% Analog and 50% Digital memberships), and this is likely a higher number if you include international members.
I do not know the number of active paid members, but would guess it is in the 250,000 range.
That makes this a business with a $7,500,000 annual gross. Personally, I have no clue where all this profit goes, but if you take away ticket sales, and fan club membership plummets by exponentially (perhaps by 75-90%).
You can still run a nice club with $750,000-1,000,000 annual income, but not with several staff members' salaries, a large building, insurance, etc.
All that said, I think you have it backwards... 10c needs to tread lightly...
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Whoops, screwed up posting. Meant say that both PJ and Mike have a Facebook account and for a while now too.
Mike has a Tumblr account, he is really fond of Tumblr, he updates it several times a day...
I first joined the ten club in 98, I live in Buenos Aires, it was never about the tix, I am into vinyl, I missed the RVM and Benny, I wasn't a member between 2002-2005, missed those, I am intereseted in PJ stuff I can only get being a member, DVD Deluxe, PJ20 Vinyl, xmas singles, that means a lot to me, it is ok if the xmas single means shit to you, I love those two songs, no matter how awful they are, and sometimes they are really awful, and no matter how late they are delivered... I didn't give a shit about the drum kick tee or the vans kicks, worst kicks ever, but that's me, I love vinyl, and that is what 10C means to me...
... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...
The thing is that crowdsurge are f*ckin nobodys. i live in the UK they are apparently based in the uk but I have never heard of them as a ticket outlet. Here there is ticketmaster, aloud, gigsand tours, to name a few of the majors but who the f*ck are crowdsurge. Sabotage???? What the F*ck??? sounds like a load of BS. I agree the 10c have just done away with our pre-sale meaning no benefit and if the 10c decide to do this they are out of a job as without our funding they are nothing more than a stockroom of bad t-shirts
Isn't saying someone sabotaged it basically coping out and blaming someone else?
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I know I posted a thread earlier that was kind of joking around about the bitching...and to me it is funny. Got me thinking however. What if the Ten Club decides to just do away with ticket presales? I know I'm going to get bashed pretty hard here but oh well. I'm sure the people that work for the Club are just absolutley fed up with the amount of bitching when tickets go on sale. What if they just decided to wave the white flag and do away with it? I was a member with a bunch of you before the ticket perk, and if this was ever taken away I'll still be here...bummed out, but here. Yes some members would go away and member's dues would be lost by the club, but that could pretty quickly be compensated for with slightly increasing dues for members who continue and slightly raising merchandise prices...a lose lose for all members.
All I'm thinking is I do find it strange that Ten Club had problems selling the tickets and now a second independent company with a proven histroy of doing their job correctly now couldn't do it. Please just be mindful and let's hope that something can be figured out moving forward. Complaining right now isn't going to change anything. The pre-sale is gone for Europe. To ease your mind just think of it like you couldn't secure tickets and try again tomorrow during the normal sale.
I was going to post something similar... but yes afraid of the nonsense bitching and bashing... I'd still be a member... for the 45 and Deep...
I find it funny that the people complaining probably joined for the sole purpose of being able to purchase tickets... which in turn means the demand for all the fans, new or old cannot in any way be met.
So the people that joined exclusively to get tickets have actually ruined it for themselves
and a small org like tenclub is easily hit by people running a DOS or whatever... I mean to say.. massive corps get hit all the time.
All the complaining is going to do in email to them is going to clog the so called 'clogged shitty' system even more....
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This is still a fun place to come get updates and find out about new interesting things (such as etchings on vinyl as per a previous post). Tickets and all that, if you get it great and if you don't still great because ultimately this is an awesome band. I'm just sick and tired of the negativity whether it's about losing out on vinyl, a poster, dvd/blu-ray, tickets or any other limited edition merchandise. Today I decided to block out any and all that cry and whine about what they didn't get or how they were screwed over, by adding them to a foe list. Already the boards sound better by drowning out this noise and nonsense. Been here for a long time and it just sucks to see this place taken over by constant bitching and moaning and me me me. Mistakes happen and lessons are learned and so we all move on but the music remains. Thankful the boards and many awesome posting members are here and hopefully they will be for a long time to come. Thanks 10C for all you do. Fan since '92.
How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!
How is limited edition items making money for the club there not getting the revenue from the flippers , they probably could have doubled there money with these pj20 items and still sold out just by producing more
Jeremy
Not every member would leave if they did away with presales. Not nearly as many as you think either. You don't think lost revenue for the Club couldn't be made up with Limited Edition items? Have you watched just the last three months here? Breaking the Club's balls here isn't going to change the past.
if you take away ticket sales, and fan club membership plummets by exponentially (perhaps by 75-90%).
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Trust me I understand your numbers but you are making quite the assumption that close to 90% percent of the members would leave if they stopped offering tickets. Quite the assumption at 50 percent actually in my opinion yet you want to assume at least 3 out of 4 will leave at the least. You are also not factoring in if the club just simply raised annual dues for remaining members, and started selling merchandise for higher prices this would make up quickly for the difference without the hassle. Shit...the PJ20 deluxe editions they could have easily sold here for triple the price. And if not here...brought them right to Ebay and gotten more than that.
I know I posted a thread earlier that was kind of joking around about the bitching...and to me it is funny. Got me thinking however. What if the Ten Club decides to just do away with ticket presales? I know I'm going to get bashed pretty hard here but oh well. I'm sure the people that work for the Club are just absolutley fed up with the amount of bitching when tickets go on sale. What if they just decided to wave the white flag and do away with it? I was a member with a bunch of you before the ticket perk, and if this was ever taken away I'll still be here...bummed out, but here. Yes some members would go away and member's dues would be lost by the club, but that could pretty quickly be compensated for with slightly increasing dues for members who continue and slightly raising merchandise prices...a lose lose for all members.
All I'm thinking is I do find it strange that Ten Club had problems selling the tickets and now a second independent company with a proven histroy of doing their job correctly now couldn't do it. Please just be mindful and let's hope that something can be figured out moving forward. Complaining right now isn't going to change anything. The pre-sale is gone for Europe. To ease your mind just think of it like you couldn't secure tickets and try again tomorrow during the normal sale.
Don't try. They're not playing Phoenix :P
Bwahahahaha! This is funny :P i thought you were someone else ok, carry on
I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
I know I posted a thread earlier that was kind of joking around about the bitching...and to me it is funny. Got me thinking however. What if the Ten Club decides to just do away with ticket presales? I know I'm going to get bashed pretty hard here but oh well. I'm sure the people that work for the Club are just absolutley fed up with the amount of bitching when tickets go on sale. What if they just decided to wave the white flag and do away with it? I was a member with a bunch of you before the ticket perk, and if this was ever taken away I'll still be here...bummed out, but here. Yes some members would go away and member's dues would be lost by the club, but that could pretty quickly be compensated for with slightly increasing dues for members who continue and slightly raising merchandise prices...a lose lose for all members.
All I'm thinking is I do find it strange that Ten Club had problems selling the tickets and now a second independent company with a proven histroy of doing their job correctly now couldn't do it. Please just be mindful and let's hope that something can be figured out moving forward. Complaining right now isn't going to change anything. The pre-sale is gone for Europe. To ease your mind just think of it like you couldn't secure tickets and try again tomorrow during the normal sale.
Don't try. They're not playing Phoenix :P
Bwahahahaha! This is funny :P i thought you were someone else ok, carry on
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What will happen if do keep the foot on the gas?....
It is not.
It definitely feels like this club is run from a bedroom. Also, I think its nice that they play Europe, but jeez it seems to be more than the US and we've still got states they've never played in their 20 years. Maybe I"m just upset because its been 5 years since I've gotten the chance to see the band, especially since I'm in Alaska right now and they probably never will tour here. I just shake my head when people who've seen the band 10, 20, 30, 40 times get so worked up about missing out on tix. Must be real rough.
Who knows...could be an email from the TenClub saying something like "We are pleased to announce a 14 show US Pearl Jam tour this fall. Unfortunately the Ten Club will not be able to offer pre-sale tickets. Enjoy LiveNation. We would like to point out that we have a Limited Edition Blue Ray and DVD deluxe set from Alpine Valley weekend available for purchase for $399. If you think that's too much you can try your luck on Ebay. The bidding starts there at $350. Enjoy the tour"!
I agree.
Do a look-up on what the limited vinyl edition of Live at Benaroya Hall goes for lately? I saw bids posted as high as $700 to $800+ for it; and as I recall, that was only available to 10C members.
Lots of 10C members sell their vinyl and other merchandise on eBay, Discogs, etc for way more than they bought it for, so it does pay to be a 10C member; I too would be curious as to how much the 10C could make if they were ever to take that path (with pre-sale tickets included.)
Lots of $$$$$.
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Well thank you! Now go read a book...the people on this forum will do nothing but corrupt and destroy a yound mind. :P
I can honestly say I'm not a member for the faint hope I might get 10c tix. Living in Australia means there is very rarely an opportunity to take advantage of these sales.
I've been a member for going on 9 years and have only ever gotten 10c tix twice back in '06. I'm heading over for Europe next year and will be just as happy with regular tix.
I think there would be alot of members in the same position as me.
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Sure there would be some fans who would stay in the fan club...But, are you still going to 40 bucks....For a newsletter, fan club single etc?...
You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
I think you dramatically underestimate the passion of PJ fans quite frankly.
a. Deal with it.
b. stop paying 10c your god damn money.
The 10c will always have the power..If they keep doing 10c tickets....If they quit doing the 10c tickets?...It will be pretty much a pearl jam online merchandise stand...Which it is pretty much now..
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
Only YOU allow them that power. That's your choice.
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
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That's because you're hanging out here too much with a bunch of deliquents. Run while you have a chance!!
I do not know the number of active paid members, but would guess it is in the 250,000 range.
That makes this a business with a $7,500,000 annual gross. Personally, I have no clue where all this profit goes, but if you take away ticket sales, and fan club membership plummets by exponentially (perhaps by 75-90%).
You can still run a nice club with $750,000-1,000,000 annual income, but not with several staff members' salaries, a large building, insurance, etc.
All that said, I think you have it backwards... 10c needs to tread lightly...
Mike has a Tumblr account, he is really fond of Tumblr, he updates it several times a day...
I first joined the ten club in 98, I live in Buenos Aires, it was never about the tix, I am into vinyl, I missed the RVM and Benny, I wasn't a member between 2002-2005, missed those, I am intereseted in PJ stuff I can only get being a member, DVD Deluxe, PJ20 Vinyl, xmas singles, that means a lot to me, it is ok if the xmas single means shit to you, I love those two songs, no matter how awful they are, and sometimes they are really awful, and no matter how late they are delivered... I didn't give a shit about the drum kick tee or the vans kicks, worst kicks ever, but that's me, I love vinyl, and that is what 10C means to me...
Isn't saying someone sabotaged it basically coping out and blaming someone else?
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I find it funny that the people complaining probably joined for the sole purpose of being able to purchase tickets... which in turn means the demand for all the fans, new or old cannot in any way be met.
So the people that joined exclusively to get tickets have actually ruined it for themselves
and a small org like tenclub is easily hit by people running a DOS or whatever... I mean to say.. massive corps get hit all the time.
All the complaining is going to do in email to them is going to clog the so called 'clogged shitty' system even more....
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And there is a ten club members group.
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Don't try. They're not playing Phoenix :P
Bwahahahaha! This is funny :P i thought you were someone else
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Well they're not playing San Francisco at least.