I think we need to tread lightly...

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  • Chrisilein
    Chrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,911
    eyejacker wrote:
    I disagree about the tickets being the only reason for being here... I will never let my membership lapse...
    I'm here for the band and the community...

    same here, though I'm really disappointed that two members living in the same household are not allowed to buy two pair of TC tickets. So why do we pay 2 times $ 50 international membership?
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,982
    DS1119 wrote:
    In the early 90s, a membership cost $5. Not $40. Plus, they make plenty of money off the tickets sold through here, too. I doubt they'd get rid of it. The last great ticket-sales were in 2003 when it was send in notecards. If Ten Club can't roll with the technology of today, maybe they should go back to notecards. I'd prefer it actually.


    I believe it was ten dollars not five dollars. They also didn't maintain a website and have PJ Radio either.

    I paid $5 when I first joined, early nineties. What a deal.

    Don't forget...the ticketing discussion is at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178855

    Please keep it there. Thanks.
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  • Claireack
    Claireack Posts: 13,561
    You know what, I would have loved presale tickets, but right now I am just incredibly pleased I have got any tickets and getting those were thanks to another 10c member (Redrock), someone who I wouldn't have met without the club. I also got RATM tickets because I was helped out by another club member (Jennytree), I also probably wouldn't have seen the Foo Fighters last year either. Plus all the gifts/prizes I've won from being on here.

    The people that I have met on here who have helped me out/shared things with me have made paying the fee worthwhile. I'm not a collecter, I have only seen PJ twice (so far), but I'm really glad I joined even if the pre-sale was a complete clusterfuck (I do like that word).

    But I guess that is just my opinion.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Kat wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    In the early 90s, a membership cost $5. Not $40. Plus, they make plenty of money off the tickets sold through here, too. I doubt they'd get rid of it. The last great ticket-sales were in 2003 when it was send in notecards. If Ten Club can't roll with the technology of today, maybe they should go back to notecards. I'd prefer it actually.


    I believe it was ten dollars not five dollars. They also didn't maintain a website and have PJ Radio either.

    I paid $5 when I first joined, early nineties. What a deal.

    Don't forget...the ticketing discussion is at http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 4&t=178855

    Please keep it there. Thanks.


    I stand corrected.
  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    i hate the thought of losing presale tix...

    If i had to rely on TM, I would be in the nose bleeds everytime, but would still rock my ass off.
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  • What would everyone on these boards do with out the 10c? :?
  • Marley05 wrote:
    What would everyone on these boards do with out the 10c? :?
    Smoke signals?
    A party line?
    Faxes?
    Twitter?
    Cheers.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Nami wrote:
    i hate the thought of losing presale tix...

    If i had to rely on TM, I would be in the nose bleeds everytime, but would still rock my ass off.


    I would hate the loss too!!
  • DS1119 wrote:
    What if the Ten Club decides to just do away with ticket presales?

    Then I won't be in the Ten Club any longer.
  • kellanazzie
    kellanazzie Posts: 1,484
    edited December 2011
    Hey DS1119...

    :thumbup: :clap:

    "Good on ya"...in the seventies, I lived & breathed a glorious band...it was all about Led Zeppelin. Cut to 1980, we had tickets to see them at the Pontiac Silverdome. Could of been level 1 at the 50 yard line, could of been holding kleenex to my nose..I DID NOT CARE...we were going to experience the most amazing night of our lives! Two weeks later...John Bonham was dead...fan devastation. Tickets useless. No more Zeppelin. Afterwards, through the years, I saw Plant, alone, with Page. I saw Page, with Plant, with other bands, all amazing but not the same, not ever again. And then, thinking the magic would never happen again...1991 (for me), along came Pearl Jam. A friend brought a tape to one of my infamous parties. I was hooked.
    I may be a new paying member here, but I am not new to this site...many times over the years I have read the forums, I just could not post. While I always wanted to join, I never did, until this year. Getting tickets was an afterthought. I don't mind sitting up in the nether-regions...how fricken amazing to see the undulating masses below, to see the panorama of lighters glowing, to be a part of thousands singing along. I get the passion of wanting to catch a pick, or have Ed point at you. My inner self longs to be front & centre just once & I am insanely jealous of seeing how many concerts some are so lucky to have been a part of. Anyway, I'm am sorry for the dissappointments, gawd, life is so fuckin' full of them. My friend lost her stomach, spleen, small intestines etc to cancer, she couldn't eat for a couple of months. However, she saw Kid Rock not long ago, up in the nose-bleeds & was just happy to BE.
    My reasons for being here now? My passion for this band, their music, & their commitment to the music, which has never wavered. Got my shirt, I like it...got my first PJ vinyl yesterday, lovely. Most importantly, I've got my music. We've still got Pearl Jam, after 20 years!! Still, making the music...give me more.
    Already I have seen the generous people here, joined the Secret Santa group, met new friends, laughed my ass off at "why now you don't be bitching??", helped when I could, received e-mails, friend requests out of the blue etc.
    So far, its been great & the next time, fingers crossed, Pearl Jam comes to Michigan (because I don't think Windsor is on their to-play list) hopefully I'll be up in the bleeder section, where I can just BE.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hey DS1119...

    :thumbup: :clap:

    "Good on ya"...in the seventies, I lived & breathed a glorious band...it was all about Led Zeppelin. Cut to 1980, we had tickets to see them at the Pontiac Silverdome. Could of been level 1 at the 50 yard line, could of been holding kleenex to my nose..I DID NOT CARE...we were going to experience the most amazing night of our lives! Two weeks later...John Bonham was dead...fan devastation. Tickets useless. No more Zeppelin. Afterwards, through the years, I saw Plant, alone, with Page. I saw Page, with Plant, with other bands, all amazing but not the same, not ever again. And then, thinking the magic would never happen again...1991 (for me), along came Pearl Jam. A friend brought a tape to one of my infamous parties. I was hooked.
    I may be a new paying member here, but I am not new to this site...many times over the years I have read the forums, I just could not post. While I always wanted to join, I never did, until this year. Getting tickets was an afterthought. I don't mind sitting up in the nether-regions...how fricken amazing to see the undulating masses below, to see the panorama of lighters glowing, to be a part of thousands singing along. I get the passion of wanting to catch a pick, or have Ed point at you. My inner self longs to be front & centre just once & I am insanely jealous of seeing how many concerts some are so lucky to have been a part of. Anyway, I'm am sorry for the dissappointments, gawd, life is so fuckin' full of them. My friend lost her stomach, spleen, small intestines etc to cancer, she couldn't eat for a couple of months. However, she saw Kid Rock not long ago, up in the nose-bleeds & was just happy to BE.
    My reasons for being here now? My passion for this band, their music, & their commitment to the music, which has never wavered. Got my shirt, I like it...got my first PJ vinyl yesterday, lovely. Most importantly, I've got my music. We've still got Pearl Jam, after 20 years!! Still, making the music...give me more.
    Already I have seen the generous people here, joined the Secret Santa group, met new friends, laughed my ass off at "why now you don't be bitching??", helped when I could, received e-mails, friend requests out of the blue etc.
    So far, its been great & the next time, fingers crossed, Pearl Jam comes to Michigan (because I don't think Windsor is on their to-play list) hopefully I'll be up in the bleeder section, where I can just BE.


    :thumbup: :clap:
  • Dead Man Walking
    Dead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    Hey DS1119...

    :thumbup: :clap:

    "Good on ya"...in the seventies, I lived & breathed a glorious band...it was all about Led Zeppelin. Cut to 1980, we had tickets to see them at the Pontiac Silverdome. Could of been level 1 at the 50 yard line, could of been holding kleenex to my nose..I DID NOT CARE...we were going to experience the most amazing night of our lives! Two weeks later...John Bonham was dead...fan devastation. Tickets useless. No more Zeppelin. Afterwards, through the years, I saw Plant, alone, with Page. I saw Page, with Plant, with other bands, all amazing but not the same, not ever again. And then, thinking the magic would never happen again...1991 (for me), along came Pearl Jam. A friend brought a tape to one of my infamous parties. I was hooked.
    I may be a new paying member here, but I am not new to this site...many times over the years I have read the forums, I just could not post. While I always wanted to join, I never did, until this year. Getting tickets was an afterthought. I don't mind sitting up in the nether-regions...how fricken amazing to see the undulating masses below, to see the panorama of lighters glowing, to be a part of thousands singing along. I get the passion of wanting to catch a pick, or have Ed point at you. My inner self longs to be front & centre just once & I am insanely jealous of seeing how many concerts some are so lucky to have been a part of. Anyway, I'm am sorry for the dissappointments, gawd, life is so fuckin' full of them. My friend lost her stomach, spleen, small intestines etc to cancer, she couldn't eat for a couple of months. However, she saw Kid Rock not long ago, up in the nose-bleeds & was just happy to BE.
    My reasons for being here now? My passion for this band, their music, & their commitment to the music, which has never wavered. Got my shirt, I like it...got my first PJ vinyl yesterday, lovely. Most importantly, I've got my music. We've still got Pearl Jam, after 20 years!! Still, making the music...give me more.
    Already I have seen the generous people here, joined the Secret Santa group, met new friends, laughed my ass off at "why now you don't be bitching??", helped when I could, received e-mails, friend requests out of the blue etc.
    So far, its been great & the next time, fingers crossed, Pearl Jam comes to Michigan (because I don't think Windsor is on their to-play list) hopefully I'll be up in the bleeder section, where I can just BE.
    I like this guy.
  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    Marley05 wrote:
    What would everyone on these boards do with out the 10c? :?


    Actually work... :lol:
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  • Hinn
    Hinn Posts: 1,517
    Hey, it could be, some of us just decided to express our love for one of the Beastie Boys' songs in a purely coincidental manner to when someone on some site chose to use a particular word on a posting.

    Not me, I just did it to take the piss
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Nami wrote:
    Marley05 wrote:
    What would everyone on these boards do with out the 10c? :?


    Actually work... :lol:

    Work?? Yeah right. :)
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,028
    SolarWorld wrote:
    They might just do that, or maybe they made a list and the club is going to get a little smaller.

    Yeah that could very well be the way ...
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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,856
    Honestly.. #1 reason to join 10C.. priority tickets.

    I love the band and all.... showing my love is one thing... paying $25/year is something totally different.

    In this day and age when we pay for something we want something for return unless we're giving to a charity but given the amount of money Pearl Jam makes... they're far from a charity.

    So if they did way with ticketing... huge loss in revenue.. huge drop in membership numbers.

    Again it has nothing to do with the love of the band. If they stopped doing 10C ticketing.. I wouldn't like the band less... but I certainly wouldn't pay to join their fanclub.
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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,856
    Jeanwah wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    You hold the ultimate power. You can just walk away and never write another check or swipe another card to the Ten Club.
    This is like, the biggest factor here. It's not about the bitching. It's the entitlement issues. Since fans refuse to compromise their issues with entitlement, then they should recognize their choices here, because we've been complaining for years for better service with little being done. At this point, fans need to realize that they have two choices here:

    a. Deal with it.
    b. stop paying 10c your god damn money.

    I don't like that mentality around here.... (no disrespect at all)

    But.. you know folks around here keep saying "deal with it.." "if you don't like it then leave"

    We just want to speak our minds here. And those should not be the only choices we have. I think if we all thought that way, 10C would have so much power they wouldn't need to care or be held accountable for anything.

    Yeah there is a lot of bitching around here and some of it completely unnecessary... but I'm also seeing a lot of folks who are just ultra devoted and love the band and 10C unconditionally.

    I think there are a lot of folks on here who think: "I don't care...do what you want 10C... I love you.. I'll never complain... you're perfect no matter what you do.... and if those complainers don't feel the same way.. then they can leave!"

    If I was a business.. I would love all of my customers to be that way!!! It would make things REALLY easy. No accountability.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Parksy wrote:
    Honestly.. #1 reason to join 10C.. priority tickets.

    I love the band and all.... showing my love is one thing... paying $25/year is something totally different.

    In this day and age when we pay for something we want something for return unless we're giving to a charity but given the amount of money Pearl Jam makes... they're far from a charity.

    So if they did way with ticketing... huge loss in revenue.. huge drop in membership numbers.

    Again it has nothing to do with the love of the band. If they stopped doing 10C ticketing.. I wouldn't like the band less... but I certainly wouldn't pay to join their fanclub.


    When you sign up for the Ten Club all it states is you will have a chance for Ten Club tickets. On Tuesday, we did have a chance. It was a small crappy chance, but it was a chance. There are alot of other perks with the annual membership. I really think you over estimate how many fan club members would leave if the ticket presales were discontinued in my opinion.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,608
    I've said my piece on the ticket issue. I doubt it will do any good, but I doubt it will do any harm, either. No one needs to be told to "tread lightly". Speak your mind. 10C deserved all the criticism they received this week. If they yank our ticket benefits as a result then they will deserve even more.

    PS -- I am in the club for the community, not the chance at tickets. This is membership #3 for me and I have a number in the 400 range. If the ticket benefit went away I would still want to be part of the community. It just shouldn't be taken away because didn't "tread lightly" on the message board.
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