I think we need to tread lightly...

DS1119
DS1119 Posts: 33,497
edited December 2011 in The Porch
I know I posted a thread earlier that was kind of joking around about the bitching...and to me it is funny. Got me thinking however. What if the Ten Club decides to just do away with ticket presales? I know I'm going to get bashed pretty hard here but oh well. I'm sure the people that work for the Club are just absolutley fed up with the amount of bitching when tickets go on sale. What if they just decided to wave the white flag and do away with it? I was a member with a bunch of you before the ticket perk, and if this was ever taken away I'll still be here...bummed out, but here. Yes some members would go away and member's dues would be lost by the club, but that could pretty quickly be compensated for with slightly increasing dues for members who continue and slightly raising merchandise prices...a lose lose for all members.

All I'm thinking is I do find it strange that Ten Club had problems selling the tickets and now a second independent company with a proven histroy of doing their job correctly now couldn't do it. Please just be mindful and let's hope that something can be figured out moving forward. Complaining right now isn't going to change anything. The pre-sale is gone for Europe. To ease your mind just think of it like you couldn't secure tickets and try again tomorrow during the normal sale.
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  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....

    Jeremy
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    They might just do that, or maybe they made a list and the club is going to get a little smaller.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....

    Jeremy


    The same members who in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995 when tickets weren't a perk of the club. All we got were the single, newsletter, and a brochure to buy merchandise.
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    DS1119 wrote:
    If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....

    Jeremy


    The same members who in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995 when tickets weren't a perk of the club. All we got were the single, newsletter, and a brochure to buy merchandise.


    How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!

    Jeremy
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    DS1119 wrote:
    If the 10c did away the 10c tickets....There won't be a 10c....That your answer plain as day....Who is going to pay 20 or 40 bucks to buy questionalbe quality t-shirts.....

    Jeremy


    The same members who in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995 when tickets weren't a perk of the club. All we got were the single, newsletter, and a brochure to buy merchandise.


    How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!

    Jeremy
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497

    How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!

    Jeremy


    Not every member would leave if they did away with presales. Not nearly as many as you think either. You don't think lost revenue for the Club couldn't be made up with Limited Edition items? Have you watched just the last three months here? Breaking the Club's balls here isn't going to change the past.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Then no need to be a 10c member!!
  • Don't know if you guys noticed, but they JUST DID AWAY WITH OUT PRESALE.

    Thanks.
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  • DS1119 wrote:

    How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!

    Jeremy


    Not every member would leave if they did away with presales. Not nearly as many as you think either. You don't think lost revenue for the Club couldn't be made up with Limited Edition items? Have you watched just the last three months here? Breaking the Club's balls here isn't going to change the past.

    Amen Brutha!! I haven't bought tickets since 98 but still renew my membership every year...Tockets are the reason I come here its the people and the merchandise.

    Except lately it's just a lot of whining by people.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Brisk. wrote:
    Then no need to be a 10c member!!


    I hate that that's the way you feel. For my 40 bucks or whatever it is I get PJ Radio which is definately worth something. I get access to these forums with other awesome PJ fans which is definately worth something. I get a Christmas single which is worth something. I get a newsletter which is worth something...see what I'm getting at. 40 bucks a year is a couple of cases of beer. Let the powers that be explore what went wrong this time. Pushing their buttons and calling for people's heads isn't going to change what happened already.
  • eyejacker
    eyejacker Posts: 1,282
    I disagree about the tickets being the only reason for being here... I will never let my membership lapse...
    I'm here for the band and the community...
  • Mudfest
    Mudfest Posts: 1,025
    No Presale tickets = the return of big time scalpers at PJ shows
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  • abhijeet
    abhijeet Posts: 303
    Pretty much all the merch items that I care about (Albums, Bootlegs, Occasional t-shirt) are available for the general public.

    The fan club only stuff tends to be very limited quantity anyway, so they don't need to raise prices or have that many members to sell them out.

    No ticket sales = no club membership for me.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Mudfest wrote:
    No Presale tickets = the return of big time scalpers at PJ shows


    Have you been to a show recently? Scalpers aren't already a problem?? I'm not trying to argue with you but if the Club did away with the pre-sale and I HOPE if never happens, why the hell would they care about scalpers? How much money if any do they make from handling the presale? For all we know it might just be more of a hassle then anything.
  • nadahombre
    nadahombre Brooklyn Posts: 460
    The thing is that crowdsurge are f*ckin nobodys. i live in the UK they are apparently based in the uk but I have never heard of them as a ticket outlet. Here there is ticketmaster, aloud, gigsand tours, to name a few of the majors but who the f*ck are crowdsurge. Sabotage???? What the F*ck??? sounds like a load of BS. I agree the 10c have just done away with our pre-sale meaning no benefit and if the 10c decide to do this they are out of a job as without our funding they are nothing more than a stockroom of bad t-shirts
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    DS1119 wrote:
    Brisk. wrote:
    Then no need to be a 10c member!!


    I hate that that's the way you feel. For my 40 bucks or whatever it is I get PJ Radio which is definately worth something. I get access to these forums with other awesome PJ fans which is definately worth something. I get a Christmas single which is worth something. I get a newsletter which is worth something...see what I'm getting at. 40 bucks a year is a couple of cases of beer. Let the powers that be explore what went wrong this time. Pushing their buttons and calling for people's heads isn't going to change what happened already.

    There are tonnes for free forums, ones that are less spammy n probably better. I just like the merchandise here and I'm friends with people.

    Xmas single doesn't mean anything, I just get the MP3 of it, I don't have a record player so can't do anything. The newsletter is really not any good, we know about half of it anyway and the other stuff they could just put on their Facebook pages :P
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Brisk. wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Brisk. wrote:
    Then no need to be a 10c member!!


    I hate that that's the way you feel. For my 40 bucks or whatever it is I get PJ Radio which is definately worth something. I get access to these forums with other awesome PJ fans which is definately worth something. I get a Christmas single which is worth something. I get a newsletter which is worth something...see what I'm getting at. 40 bucks a year is a couple of cases of beer. Let the powers that be explore what went wrong this time. Pushing their buttons and calling for people's heads isn't going to change what happened already.

    There are tonnes for free forums, ones that are less spammy n probably better. I just like the merchandise here and I'm friends with people.

    Xmas single doesn't mean anything, I just get the MP3 of it, I don't have a record player so can't do anything. The newsletter is really not any good, we know about half of it anyway and the other stuff they could just put on their Facebook pages :P


    Alot less spammy than here? Where have you ever seen spam here? I guess you're one of the ones that go if the presale goes away. Sucks...I don't want to see anyone leave, I just want this to keep growing but shit happens. Again, Im not saying I hope the presale goes away, I'm just saying lets ease up a bit. We have a long winter ahead of us for them to hopefully this out.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    [quote="DS1119"
    There are tonnes for free forums, ones that are less spammy n probably better. I just like the merchandise here and I'm friends with people.

    Xmas single doesn't mean anything, I just get the MP3 of it, I don't have a record player so can't do anything. The newsletter is really not any good, we know about half of it anyway and the other stuff they could just put on their Facebook pages :P[/quote]


    Alot less spammy than here? Where have you ever seen spam here? I guess you're one of the ones that go if the presale goes away. Sucks...I don't want to see anyone leave, I just want this to keep growing but shit happens. Again, Im not saying I hope the presale goes away, I'm just saying lets ease up a bit. We have a long winter ahead of us for them to hopefully this out.[/quote]

    Like the Red Mosquito board. No, I've got 10k posts, I've been around a whilst.

    Yeah I just feel terrible for those without tix, I got all my 6 pairs in the original sale.
  • DS1119 wrote:

    How many fan club members was there in the early 90's?....This is 2011....There is one reason why there is so many in the fan club now....TICKETS!!!!

    Jeremy


    Not every member would leave if they did away with presales. Not nearly as many as you think either. You don't think lost revenue for the Club couldn't be made up with Limited Edition items? Have you watched just the last three months here? Breaking the Club's balls here isn't going to change the past.


    Hell, I'd stick around. I just love talking Pearl Jam with you all.
  • Carey
    Carey Posts: 2,361
    I wouldn't go anywhere :D
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