Is Vedder The Only Decent Songwriter Left In PJ?

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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    One of the things I love about PJ is that everyone writes. I think it's great that everyone is able to contribute something, and I don't prefer anyone's songs over anyone else...I don't bother to sit down and memorise who wrote each individual song. I'm not THAT bored.

    Anyway, if all the writing was left to Ed, then it would take away one of the major things that makes PJ the band they are. To me at least.

    So I guess my answer to your question is...hell no.
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Army & Navy wrote:
    I thought I should back up my original post..Don't get me wrong, I think as live musicians and players, the rest of PJ are top notch. No-one can catch them, but since 2000 I just think Vedder is not only writing 60% of all the material but that 60% is the best stuff...I mean take:

    Insiginicance
    Greivance
    I Am Mine
    Parting Ways
    Severed Hand
    Worldwide Suicide
    Man of The Hour
    Undone
    Can't Keep
    Green Disease
    Sad
    Education

    Can anyone deny, that list contains their best songs this decade?

    I think these are your favorite ones, but not necessarily the best ones.

    As someone else said above, PJ is what it is because of the whole group of people.

    For example, Stone and Matt's songs may not be initially as appealing as Ed's but some of them have better staying power over time because they are more complicated. Perhaps Mike and Jeff don't write as many songs but wouldn't you miss Given to Fly, Inside Job, and Nothingman?
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    I'd be disappointed to have a PJ album where the only contribution was from Ed. I think the rest of the band are happy for Ed to make most of a contribution but then they add in gems like Lowlight, Unemployable, Nothing As It Seems and Inside Job.
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  • NC_Irie
    NC_Irie Posts: 270
    pjfan31 wrote:
    dont forget inside job was by mr mike mcCready. So I would disagree for now, though with Eddie's efforts on ITW I would be happy with a major major contribution from Eddie on the next album. Just my thoughts.

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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    Of course not. The only hopes i could have for the next album is a more "binaural" apt album... (IE, the whole band having writing credits ect) oh and no more backing vocals from Matt.... not his fault, i just dont think matt's and ed's voice mesh that well together....
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Ok. I'm looking through the post 2000 albums now, and it seems to me that the most interesting/different sounding songs come from people other than Ed. I WANT songs like that.

    Nothing As It Seems, Of The Girl, Rival, Sleight Of Hand (music), You Are, Help Help, Half Full (music), All Or None...most of the more interesting music was written by someone other than Ed on Avocado, not to mention Inside Job. And let's not forget Lost Dogs, with the likes of Fatal, Otherside, Strangest Tribe (not post 2000 I know), Down (music)...

    It all comes down to your opinion. It seems other people here greatly disagree.
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Although I prefer In The Wild to Avocado (at least at the minute) I'd hate to see Pearl Jam become all Ed....Mike wrote Given To Fly, 'nuff said.....

    The great thing about Pearl Jam is the fact that all members are very individual and contribute very different and unique things....
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    come now folks ED with out the rest of the band or band with out ED, would be totally different style of songs written by all party's involved one can't work with out the other in collaboration leading up to recording an album ...
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    Eddie contributes to over 90% of everything as is. So why is this a surprise to anyone?
  • hookemhorns0505
    hookemhorns0505 Posts: 13
    From how i see it; they're a band, they write music together. Ideas come from all around and everyone can add something to that particular song if it works; its about the best thing for the song, not the best thing for their egos.

    Bottom line, its important that they enjoy writing together, accepting each others ideas and taking risks and exploring new musical experiences.
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    hookemhorns0505 wrote:
    Bottom line, its important that they enjoy writing together, accepting each others ideas and taking risks and exploring new musical experiences.

    I very much agree with you.

    Unfortunatley when pearl jam try different stuff (Binaural, RA) people moan....
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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    I very much agree with you.

    Unfortunatley when pearl jam try different stuff (Binaural, RA) people moan....
    Indeed they do, but each to their own.

    Binaural is my favourite album, and I hold Riot Act in much higher esteem than Avocado.
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    audiodave wrote:

    Binaural is my favourite album, and I hold Riot Act in much higher esteem than Avocado.


    Yield will always be my favourite but Binaural and RA are always fighting it out for second place.....
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    the day that Ed is the only one contributing is the day that PJ ends IMO... it was said in SVT that the only thing that kept PJ together during the rough times was everyone coming together and adding their own to great albums like no code and yield... and quite frankly im not crazy about ITW when you compare it to what the band has done together...

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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,412
    if eddie gets anymore control over this band, THEY WILL BECOME THE WHO
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  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    If Eddie had complete control over the band he probably would dismiss them all as inferior humans and hire a supergroup. This supergroup would consist of Geddy Lee on Bass, or no Michael Anthony that van halen guy... now on guitar, Tom Morello...or that one guy from that one band.....

    Shut up, if PJ were just Eddie it would not be too interesting for too long. Do people really think all of ed's songs are solely his ideas, no one in the band helps to shape them? They are a band, a great one.
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  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    I think its awesome that everyone in the band contributes, but I do think that Eddie Jeff and Stone are the best team of writers.

    I would prefer if they handled the bulk of the song writing duties but also allow a couple of songs from Matt and Mike if they are up to par.

    I have always dreamed of a groundbreaking studio album from Pearl Jam (like an Auchtung Baby or Ok Computer) but it WON'T happen if all of the members have there own agendas when writing songs.

    IMO a truly groundbreaking studio album is the only thing this band has yet to accomplish.
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    If anything, I would probably want less Ed on the next album.....


    More Mike and Stone please.....
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Ed and Stone are both hit and miss, but they should be the main writers, the others suck. sorry guys.
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    MrSmith wrote:
    Ed and Stone are both hit and miss, but they should be the main writers, the others suck. sorry guys.

    Really?

    Man, i disagree.....

    We need them all writing more.....
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