PJ fans in 12 step Recovery

mickeyrat · November 2011

oona left wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

One working day left til career change!! Off into the great unknown.

Happy to be leaving under better circumstances this time. I am torn about it though. The stores new manager has earned my loyalty. Part of me feels bad for springing this on him without giving him the chance to have a replacement in place.

Best of luck in your new endeavors!! We'll get updates, I'm hoping

As for the situation with your store manager, you seem like the kind of guy who knows how to keep his side of the street clean.

Took some time to learn!!!! I've worked at this company twice since being sober. The first time... Umm I was not a shining example of the book in action.

well lets just say I leaving the right way this time!!

locked · November 2011

CHRIS CORNELL GIVES ADVICE TO HIS 18-YEAR-OLD SELF

“If given a chance to write a letter to his 18-year-old self, Cornell would give some basic advice: “Don’t drink,” he said.

“And, that’s serious. For me, that’s one, because I never wrote; I was never creative while drinking, and there were these periods of not drinking and just kind of white-knuckling it and writing and recording, and then drinking a lot and coming into the studio hung over and being in the studio drunk and never being able to do anything to the level or to the degree that I thought that I should be. I’m proud of everything that I did, but I think it was a lot more difficult than it needed to be.”

http://audioinkradio.com/2011/11/soundg ... e-drinking

LeatherMosquitoMan · November 2011

Only just now saw this thread... my photo

>>> is my tattoo on my right shoulder. It's my alcohol sobriety date.

It was 5 years this past september.

Inside Job is huge...

i shit and i stink · November 2011

Okay, big day today, the first meeting of our second English group here in Wroclaw.

the Saturday group has been running a year and a half now and we are up to about a dozen members, usually about 6 to 10 on each meeting. Seemed like the right time to get a mid-week meeting going.

It's incredible for me to think that when I first got sober, in Sept 09, there was no English group and I spent 9 months going to only Polish meetings (although for the last three of those there were a couple of other English speakers I had met but who were still drinking) and now I have a CHOICE of what English-speaking meeting I want to go to each week!! Awesome

if you are ever in Eastern Europe on a Wednesday night and have nothing to do, you know where to come...

mickeyrat · November 2011

locked wrote:

CHRIS CORNELL GIVES ADVICE TO HIS 18-YEAR-OLD SELF

“If given a chance to write a letter to his 18-year-old self, Cornell would give some basic advice: “Don’t drink,” he said.

“And, that’s serious. For me, that’s one, because I never wrote; I was never creative while drinking, and there were these periods of not drinking and just kind of white-knuckling it and writing and recording, and then drinking a lot and coming into the studio hung over and being in the studio drunk and never being able to do anything to the level or to the degree that I thought that I should be. I’m proud of everything that I did, but I think it was a lot more difficult than it needed to be.”

http://audioinkradio.com/2011/11/soundg ... e-drinking

Huh. Seems to hint at being in recovery now with the "white-knuckling it" statement. Audioslaves lyrics seemed to hint at that as well. AT least I heard it in there.

Its like musically/lyrically AIC was IN the problem, PJ was seeking the solution or at the least was hope filled about a solution and SG/AS were In the solution.

mickeyrat · November 2011

i shit and i stink wrote:

Okay, big day today, the first meeting of our second English group here in Wroclaw.

the Saturday group has been running a year and a half now and we are up to about a dozen members, usually about 6 to 10 on each meeting. Seemed like the right time to get a mid-week meeting going.

It's incredible for me to think that when I first got sober, in Sept 09, there was no English group and I spent 9 months going to only Polish meetings (although for the last three of those there were a couple of other English speakers I had met but who were still drinking) and now I have a CHOICE of what English-speaking meeting I want to go to each week!! Awesome

if you are ever in Eastern Europe on a Wednesday night and have nothing to do, you know where to come...

SWEET!!!!!!

Get it listed as soon as possible? Who knows how many come to town on business during the week that might need a meeting.

i shit and i stink · November 2011

mickeyrat wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

Okay, big day today, the first meeting of our second English group here in Wroclaw.

the Saturday group has been running a year and a half now and we are up to about a dozen members, usually about 6 to 10 on each meeting. Seemed like the right time to get a mid-week meeting going.

It's incredible for me to think that when I first got sober, in Sept 09, there was no English group and I spent 9 months going to only Polish meetings (although for the last three of those there were a couple of other English speakers I had met but who were still drinking) and now I have a CHOICE of what English-speaking meeting I want to go to each week!! Awesome

if you are ever in Eastern Europe on a Wednesday night and have nothing to do, you know where to come...

SWEET!!!!!!

Get it listed as soon as possible? Who knows how many come to town on business during the week that might need a meeting.

Might wait a few weeks for the listing and group conscience, etc. We need to see if it gets off the ground first. Right now there are about 4 people who can make it, so we'll have to see if interest is retained over the coming weeks. I hope it does. The Saturday mornings are more and more difficult for me to make, I just feel like it takes so much out of the weekend when that is the only time I have left with the family

Hugh Freaking Dillon · November 2011

it's been nearly 3 weeks now.

this sucks. I don't see myself lasting very long with this.

i shit and i stink · November 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it's been nearly 3 weeks now.

this sucks. I don't see myself lasting very long with this.

What is 'this'? Are you trying cold turkey or making use of some tools and support?
Either way, if you don't see yourself lasting, look at some other options. there are plenty of ways and means of making it a pleasure and not a chore.

Even if you are not in a 12 step program, there is a good book called "living sober" published by AA which is a real help in the first weeks of sobriety. It offers a lot of comfort and advice.

There is also a good questionnaire for those who think they may have a drink issue here:
http://www.aa.org/lang/en/subpage.cfm?page=71

Good luck, man. Hang in there.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · November 2011

i shit and i stink wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it's been nearly 3 weeks now.

this sucks. I don't see myself lasting very long with this.

What is 'this'?

'this' is not drinking, and the fact that now my life has become a daily count instead of just LIFE. a struggle to maintain the new status quo that I don't even want.

I enjoy having a drink. I enjoy the taste, the feeling. anyway, I probably shouldn't have posted this here. it's probably not helping others.

mickeyrat · November 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it's been nearly 3 weeks now.

this sucks. I don't see myself lasting very long with this.

What is 'this'?

'this' is not drinking, and the fact that now my life has become a daily count instead of just LIFE. a struggle to maintain the new status quo that I don't even want.

I enjoy having a drink. I enjoy the taste, the feeling. anyway, I probably shouldn't have posted this here. it's probably not helping others.

Sure it is. This "daily count" happens this early in sobriety. Hate to say it though, without a sufficient replacement "this" will get a whole lot shittier. IF you truly believe that alcohol is problem in your life, at least go to a couple AA meetings with an open mind.Listen. See if you can identify with the people there. Really , at this point , what do you have to lose?

locked · November 2011

can't chase a drunk Mickey..

mickeyrat · November 2011

locked wrote:

can't chase a drunk Mickey..

oh I know. Just thought he might want an honest opinion.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · November 2011

locked wrote:

can't chase a drunk Mickey..

I'd rather not be given labels, thank you.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · November 2011

I'm actually really mad at that "can't chase a drunk" comment. i thought this was supposed to be a thread about support, not judgment. I mean, who the fuck do you think you are?

you could have easily pm'd him with your shitty little comment, but you chose to try to "out" me with it in public. that's totally uncool. you don't fucking know me any more than I know you.

fuck this.

i shit and i stink · November 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I'm actually really mad at that "can't chase a drunk" comment. i thought this was supposed to be a thread about support, not judgment. I mean, who the fuck do you think you are?

you could have easily pm'd him with your shitty little comment, but you chose to try to "out" me with it in public. that's totally uncool. you don't fucking know me any more than I know you.

fuck this.

Purely as an onlooker in this, perhaps I shouldn't get involved but in an attempt to assuage your malcontent at that particular definition, I think that comment was directed more at Mickey than at you. Maybe Locked was just saying that if you don't wanna try a program of your own will, there is no point chasing you as maybe me and Mickey were both suggesting that way to go.

If you don't like the word drunk, try calling yourself something else and, if the shoe fits, wear it. the key to starting recovery, as I understand it anyway, is that moment where we admit to ourselves the nature of our problem an that breaks down a lot of barriers. I don't use the word drunk too often to define myself but I can say that the first time I said "I'm an alcoholic" it jsut felt right and life got easier from that one sentence onwards.

Don't be too pissed at people here, man, we all mean well and, to be fair to Locked, you are here talking about a drinking problem you have, so it ain't exactly a leap to use the word that was written

Hugh Freaking Dillon · November 2011

i shit and i stink wrote:

to be fair to Locked, you are here talking about a drinking problem you have, so it ain't exactly a leap to use the word that was written

calling someone a "drunk" has pretty negative connotations to it. you can be an alcoholic and not be a drunk.

I have gotten drunk, but I am not a drunk. big difference. I didn't appreciate the label. it IS a leap, and I didn't like it, and I had every right to be pissed about it.

it doesn't matter. I'm done with this thread.

mickeyrat · November 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

to be fair to Locked, you are here talking about a drinking problem you have, so it ain't exactly a leap to use the word that was written

calling someone a "drunk" has pretty negative connotations to it. you can be an alcoholic and not be a drunk.

I have gotten drunk, but I am not a drunk. big difference. I didn't appreciate the label. it IS a leap, and I didn't like it, and I had every right to be pissed about it.

it doesn't matter. I'm done with this thread.

I'll restate what I said before. Go to a few meetings then decide if you belong or more inportantly if you want to really do something about it. Fact is I knew it was a problem for 15 or so of the 24 yrs I drank to excess. Cared not one bit to do something about it.

You go ahead and try and fail to control your drinking like you've stated earlier in this thread. If you do, you'll continue to get the same results. Gauranteed.

I and a few others arent going anywhere and neither is a place that has a real solution ,AA. 76 years and going.

mickeyrat · November 2011

Here we are. In the US it is Thanksgiving Day. A day of reflection of what we are grateful for.

What more can I really say other than , this morning I once again woke up sober.

Thank you to those that post here , just read through, or have had contact with me in any way related to recovery.

mickeyrat · December 2011

ok, since we last saw each other , I PASSED my CDL exam.

:shock:

I am now a licensed big rig driver!!!

At this moment I'm in Indianapolis,IN. for orientation with a very large trucking company. Seems of one the better ones for a new driver to start with. Pay will be decent to start for a new guy.

Yesterday , at the bus station, I was hit up by a apparent homeless guy. Didnt get rude, but it struck me wrong for a second this guy didnt realize he hit us up twice before 10 minutes earlier!! The other guy standing there was in my class and he threw out there that he was in recovery!!!! Imagine that. Kinda doubting there will be time to get to a meeting whle I'm here as they give us homework to do every night. This is a weeklong interview, that we can be sent home from at any time if we dont meet the standards laid out. Understandable, we would be "given" A vehicle worth ALOT of $ and tasked with safe transport of customers goods worth a bunch too.

HP has been involved from the start. Feeling good about this.

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