Troy Davis

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,737
edited September 2011 in A Moving Train
I think is is worth jumping back on the train for- well, at least little while. Please read this article. Thanks.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... -1,00.html
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    He has about 8 hrs left in this world. Unless somthing changes.
  • animus
    animus Twin Cities area Posts: 530
    been reading about this today as part of a paper for class and its just sickening. If there's even a bit of doubt, there should be no execution. I believe Davis was denied a polygraph too in addition to having the execution decision reviewed. There's only 2 and a half hours left for this man, i hope it will be stopped.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,741
    animus wrote:
    been reading about this today as part of a paper for class and its just sickening. If there's even a bit of doubt, there should be no execution. I believe Davis was denied a polygraph too in addition to having the execution decision reviewed. There's only 2 and a half hours left for this man, i hope it will be stopped.
    yes he was denied a polygraph.

    many witnesses have recanted their testimony, and some have even fingered a different suspect as the trigger man.

    there should be no execution in this case unless they are 1000% sure.

    there is reasonable doubt. you can not convict if there is reasonable doubt, you should not be able to execute with reasonable doubt.

    why is it in our system you are innocent until proven guilty, but once convicted you have to have undeniable proof of your innocence??
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,063
    On hold right now. According to the CNN legal analyst, Davis is strapped down waiting for it to happen. No matter how you feel about the death penalty, you can't support that type of mental torture.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,741
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    On hold right now. According to the CNN legal analyst, Davis is strapped down waiting for it to happen. No matter how you feel about the death penalty, you can't support that type of mental torture.
    exactly..

    and i am going on record right now with the belief that the supreme court will uphold the sentence. god i hope i am wrong...
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    he is a convicted cop killer right?
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Just in >>>

    Supreme Court denies Davis' request for stay of execution
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,063
    Sad stuff. While I am not entirely opposed to the death penalty in rare cases (mcveigh, Peterson), this is not how it's supposed to be used. This man should not be executed.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,737
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Just in >>>

    Supreme Court denies Davis' request for stay of execution
    I just checked the news again. The execution took place 11:12 PM EST.
    Shit... nothing left to say.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,063
    He's dead
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    So sad.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,741
    It is ironic that most of those cheering this man's execution profess faith in a savior who was also unjustly executed......
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2011
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    he is a convicted cop killer right?

    And the WM3 were convicted child killers.
    And Leonard Peltier is a convicted cop Killer
    e.t.c, e.t.c.

    Doesn't mean they're guilty...especially when all the evidence points to them being innocent.

    But we know you don't care either way. You support the death penalty, Rick Perry, and Israel. Woot!

    You never know, maybe one day an ironic kind of fate will place you on the receiving end of your hero Rick Perry's justice.
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  • pjfan021
    pjfan021 Posts: 684
    pretty sobering feel right now...i hope i'm never in the wrong place at the wrong time. don't know how people can be so eager to kill someone
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Way to go SCOTUS. This is why I could never support the death penalty.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    edited September 2011
    Just another example of our society and culture taking the easy way out. Collectively, we don't have justice, we don't have due process, we don't have sympathy nor care. We have retribution and vindictiveness. We don't deter people from wrong-doing, we incite it. Take all the failures of society, the socially inept, the uneducated, the offenders, the violent... they are the one's left behind by bad parenting, poor education and the polarizing socioeconomic factors ripping apart our nation. It's just easier to euthanize one person at a time compared to a nation full of substandard and morally bankrupt enablers.

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... punishment
    'The US legal system offers defendants the presumption of innocence before conviction. Post-conviction, though, the legal presumption is that the 12 citizen jurors made the correct decision and that the defense lawyers and prosecutors did their jobs honestly and to the best of their abilities – a reasonable theory, but unable to account for the 273 people exonerated (some posthumously) thanks to the efforts of the Innocence Project - http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/.'
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    10 reasons why Troy Davis should not have been executed:

    1. Of the nine witnesses who appeared at Davis's 1991 trial who said they had seen Davis beating up a homeless man in a dispute over a bottle of beer and then shooting to death a police officer, Mark MacPhail, who was acting as a good samaritan, seven have since recanted their evidence.

    2. One of those who recanted, Antoine Williams, subsequently revealed they had no idea who shot the officer and that they were illiterate – meaning they could not read the police statements that they had signed at the time of the murder in 1989. Others said they had falsely testified that they had overheard Davis confess to the murder.

    3. Many of those who retracted their evidence said that they had been cajoled by police into testifying against Davis. Some said they had been threatened with being put on trial themselves if they did not co-operate.

    4. Of the two of the nine key witnesses who have not changed their story publicly, one has kept silent for the past 20 years and refuses to talk, and the other is Sylvester Coles. Coles was the man who first came forward to police and implicated Davis as the killer. But over the past 20 years evidence has grown that Coles himself may be the gunman and that he was fingering Davis to save his own skin.

    5. In total, nine people have come forward with evidence that implicates Coles. Most recently, on Monday the George Board of Pardons and Paroles heard from Quiana Glover who told the panel that in June 2009 she had heard Coles, who had been drinking heavily, confess to the murder of MacPhail.

    6. Apart from the witness evidence, most of which has since been cast into doubt, there was no forensic evidence gathered that links Davis to the killing.

    7. In particular, there is no DNA evidence of any sort. The human rights group the Constitution Project points out that three-quarters of those prisoners who have been exonerated and declared innocent in the US were convicted at least in part on the basis of faulty eyewitness testimony.

    8. No gun was ever found connected to the murder. Coles later admitted that he owned the same type of .38-calibre gun that had delivered the fatal bullets, but that he had given it away to another man earlier on the night of the shooting.

    9. Higher courts in the US have repeatedly refused to grant Davis a retrial on the grounds that he had failed to "prove his innocence". His supporters counter that where the ultimate penalty is at stake, it should be for the courts to be beyond any reasonable doubt of his guilt.

    10. Even if you set aside the issue of Davis's innocence or guilt, the manner of his execution tonight is cruel and unnatural. If the execution goes ahead as expected, it would be the fourth scheduled execution date for this prisoner. In 2008 he was given a stay just 90 minutes before he was set to die. Experts in death row say such multiple experiences with imminent death is tantamount to torture.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,737
    Just received this from NAACP:

    http://www.naacp.org/blog/entry/the-wor ... roys-name1

    Tonight the State of Georgia has killed an innocent man.

    In recent weeks, we fought hard for the commutation of Troy Davis' sentence. More than one million of your petitions were delivered. Protests, rallies and vigils were organized around the globe. Tonight, we fasted and prayed together as a community.

    I have spent the past week with Troy's family. He wanted the world to know that he understood that this struggle goes beyond just one man. Troy was prepared to die tonight. As he said again and again, the state of Georgia only held the power to take his physical body. They could not take his spirit, because he gave his life to God.

    Let's remember and heed Troy's words: We must not let them kill our spirit, either.

    Troy's execution, the exceptional unfairness of it, will only hasten the end of the death penalty in the United States. The world will remember the name of Troy Anthony Davis. In death he will live on as a symbol of a broken justice system that kills an innocent man while a murderer walks free.

    The world will remember Troy's name, as the death penalty supporters who expressed doubt in this case begin to doubt an entire system that can execute a man amidst so many unanswered questions.

    The world will remember Troy's name, as death penalty opponents who remained silent in the past realize that their silence is no longer an option.

    The world will remember Troy's name because we will commemorate September 21st each year as both a solemn anniversary and a call to action. The night they put Troy Davis to death will become an annual reminder that justice will not be achieved until we end this brutal practice of capital punishment.

    "This movement," Troy said, "started before I was born." After tonight, our movement will grow stronger until we succeed in destroying the death penalty in the United States once and for all.

    I know you will join me. Together we will secure his legacy, and the world will remember the name Troy Anthony Davis.

    In solidarity,

    Ben Jealous
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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