***Lollapalooza Fanviews Here, Aug 5, 2007***

luvistower wrote:

hockey players
used to play for the chicago blackhawks
think both are retired now, could be wrong.
chelly stood directly in front of me at the rail in champaign 03

Chelly is still playing hard for the Red Wings! Go Wings!!

PJFan344 wrote:

People are annoyed by the whining and crying you have done in your 20 posts about the same topics. Next time, take your girlfriend to the ballet instead of a crowded mosh pit....or maybe to some lesbian bar so you two can hold hands and make out.

A lot of people are also annoyed by people who come here and feel the need to bash people with ridiculous put downs instead of rationally expressing a differing opinion.

Jesus Christ was that really your first post here? Too bash someone instead of saying something about PJ???

pjhaschangedmylife wrote:

I was so psyched to see the show and then so disappointed at all the complete jerks that were near me in the crowd...

I wasn't there soon enough to stake out a REALLY good spot like most of you... (although on second thought maybe I should have... although I would have missed Iggy whom my hubby really wanted to see and was also a GREAT show), but I certainly didn't elbow or push my way to the front.

Once settled in my spot (on the far right side) and during the MMJ show, these jerks cut in between me and my hubby and wouldn't let him up to where I was. Determined not to get angry about it, we just stayed where we were, talked back & forth through the jerks, and waited for the show to start.

As soon as it started there was a huge surge and people pushing from everywhere. To boot, a crowd surfer passed overhead and I was pushed even further away. Since I was pushed CLOSER to the front, I thought...gee whiz, maybe it's karma... I guess I'll stay here - but then these people started shoving me when they saw I was alone and in a different spot. When I wouldn't move, they tried to call security over, saying I was drunk (which I was not... well tipsy maybe, but certainly not drunk) and pushed me to the front. Just as the guard was about to lift me over the gate and kick me out, I said, hey wait a minute - I'm not drunk, these people are just a@@holes! He could clearly see that I was NOT drunk and then let me stay. This only infuriated the jerks more when THEY had pushed me forward even further.

Needless, to say, I stayed there, and tried to enjoy the show, but I had to have my guard up the whole time which was very distracting.

Really disappointed. Wish I could have been closer to some REAL fans.

Don't think I'll be going to a festival to see PJ again and I was also frustrated that I found out about the Vic too late.

I have now seen PJ 4 times, and even though I was closest to the stage for this one, it was certainly a real let down.

Sorry to vent, but it needed to come out.

Hehe, I had a similar experience. Be careful, though. Someone may tell you that you should be at a ballet or a lesbian bar.

hsewif wrote:

I've read your comments and I feel your pain. I had a completely different experience but that's to be expected at these types of shows... one extreme to the other.

I can't estimate how many times I said "there is no way you're getting through here" when people started pushing and our section of people stood strong as a team. Everyone really looked out for each other.

It's an amazing thing when complete strangers bond together in an environment like that. That seems lame but it's the only way I can describe it. I think it happened often at Lolla and that's why people are giving you a hard time.

Thanks hsewif.
i know. Its really not that big of a deal, either. I havent even brought it up since the other day. Whatever.

Its a matter of opinion. I dont like GA shows, tried to make the best of it. Simple as that.


What strikes me as odd is this last person found it necessary to register under a new username, probably with a different email, in order to make that comment.

Why not be man or woman enough to post under thier regular username?

Does anyone know if Ed is on the stuido version of that KOL song. That was amazing.

Pandora15v wrote:

I want to know everything. I'm soooo pissed. I camped out all day, and ended up with water intoxication -- WATER INTOXICATION!!!!! I was trying to be good. I can't remember a thing. I spent the concert in the medic booth, then lost my 2003 pj tee and bra at the hospital that night. It was (or was supposed to be) my 10th time seeing them since 2003. How was it? And please don't be overly cruel.

WTF?? WATER INTOXICATION?? wow, thats rare. that sux. How did they treat that? Sand IV's?

Well since it's quiet on the board and I'm bored I may as well write my fanview of the FESTIVAL.

I wanna start by saying thanks to whoever spread the rumour that Ed would play kidzapalooza... cos Jim James singing Kermit the frog and the chipmunks was definitely one of the highlights. We got there before most people and sat on the grass quite close to the stage (with room for the kids to stand and dance in front of us) and it was just soooooo cute and funny and RANDOM... I absolutely loved it. Then to see Patti Smith come on afterwards was great.

One thing though, cos we were at the kids stage, I was going out to smoke. But then two OBVIOUSLY Patti Smith fans sat in front of us in the middle of the kids and one of them started lighting a cigarette. Everyone around me started going nuts saying 'she can't smoke that here' 'she's not going to light that is she?' 'oh my god, she's lighting it... she can't do that'. All it takes is to say it to somebody nicely. I just patted her and said 'sorry I don't think we should smoke here cos it's the kids stage and stuff. I've been going out and your spot's still going to be here, we just don't wanna get in trouble and be kicked out'. And she was nice, didn't take offense and said 'you're right, I never thought of that, I'll go out'. Why do people get so worked up when all it takes is pointing something out to somebody? I'll never understand.

Anyway the festival started for me and Barbara on Friday when we FINALLY made it into the grounds (after a couple of cocktails outside and a lovely walk along lake Michigan) for the Black Keys, who were really really good. Then Ben Harper came on... we found a barrier spot about half an hour before no problem. The good thing about Ben was that I didn't know any of his stuff so I'd no high expectations. He was absolutely fucking amazing. Although I have never needed to pee so badly at a concert before. It finally got to the point where I thought 'fuck it I HAVE to go'. So Carlos came with me. I was just about to go into a portoloo when Ben started talking about his friend... Carlos roared at me... and the pair of us ran. I've never ran so fast in my life with the flag flying behind me I'm sure it was funny to anyone watching. Made it back in time for Ed to come on for an AMAZING version of masters of war. By that stage we were WELL warmed up and in good form and it was just beautiful. After that I finally got to pee so all was well and good

The Saturday we decided to sample some Chicago pizza... before it arrived we got the message about Ed playing the kids stage so we had to run from the pizza place to Grant park... actually I walked quite fast as Sandra and Barbara ran on ahead . Anyway then we got to see Jim James, Patti Smith and Perry Farrell (my first of many).

Afterwards we were walking around some stalls and suddenly Perry set up stage in one of the stalls and played a short set. I even got to shake his hand afterwards (even though I'd no idea who he was before the festival and didn't know any of his or Jane's stuff). So that was my 2nd time seeing him, lol. Then we set up camp in the middle of the AT&T field and got a LITTLE bit drunk... just dancing to the various bands playing. That's where my memory goes weird... next thing I know I'm watching Muse thinking 'this is fucking brilliant'. Then I'm talking to a group of Irish people who also came over for lolla. Then I'm being asked to go on a game show. I've no idea in what order these happened or anything else around them. Next thing I know we're at the CCFA after party... talking to random people. I remember some of them

Next thing I remember I'm back at the room and Barbara gets a text from Sandra and Emily saying there are some people already queuing... so me, her and Bar get ready, grab our ponchos (it was raining) and head to the queue. I stayed about 10 minutes but got sooooooo bloody wet and was sitting on bin bags that Barbara generously shared with me... IN A PUDDLE. So I thought 'fuck this... I've a nice warm dry bed waiting for me at the hard rock hotel' so I went back there.

Sunday I woke about 12ish... finally got my act together and met Carol and Kathy for some lunch. We wandered around the festival in a bit of a hungover HOT daze for a while, followed the Ed kids stage rumour again and got to hear Perry Farrell for the third time... this time with the excellent School of Rock Allstars and then made our way to KOL. Picked a spot at the disabled thing where you could hold on to a rail and nobody could stand in front of you. Kathy made her way towards the front to see what it was like and texted us to say there was plenty of room. So unfortunately Carol had to drag me away from this GORGEOUS guy who strangely was chatting me up (my accent works wonders in Chicago, lol). We made our way towards 2nd row.

Got chatting to some really nice people around us. One girl was just there for MMJ so I let her stand in front of me for them and then she promptly thanked me and left. Then PJ came on... the weird thing was there was no pushing from the back... but from the front. The two guys in front of me at the barrier moved back. One of them was jumping up and down digging his elbows into my back every time (we were facing sideways) so I pushed back, he elbowed me sending me flying. I went back and elbowed him as hard as I could in the ribs and we had a slight verbal altercation. I guess I won cos he stopped jumping. The other guy who was in front of me strangely was holding the barrier and swaying in an out making it impossible to see. I didn't want to say anything though after giving out to the other guy. After a while we moved over to the left and some guy at the barrier asked to be taken out so I moved into his spot for the last few songs and had MUCH more fun there. God to stand in front of the other two guys and moved in and out as much as I could to show them how annoying it is... but I'm probably too small to have made a difference

Possibly the highlight of the concert for me was crazy mary. I just love this song live for whatever reason.

So afterwards I texted a guy Kevin, I'd met the day before to tell him where we were all going. He texted back saying he was in the House of Blues for a free after party... so we made our way over there. Guess who was playing? Perry Farrell, lol. It was great though cos I wasn't ready to stop rocking yet... got to shake his hand AGAIN lol. He HAS to be thinking I'm his biggest fan at this stage... I think he's stalking me personally. He just seemed to be everywhere I went.

So all in all an absolutely EXCELLENT weekend... I'll definitely be back to Chicago.

Phew... It's not fair having to do that with only 5 smilies... maybe I shoulda stretched it over a few posts, lol.

jrd wrote:

that was a bit short... do you want to tell us about your tambourine again... ?

glad you had a good time!

oh, and YOU BITCH!!!!!!!!! :mad: (that was for getting in to The Vic show

Well I was bored... and the words just came... and there was nobody around for once so I got to post something really long without having to minimise... but seriously there was just so much to the festival that more and more things come into my head every now and then

Heineken Helen wrote:

well obviously the irishness is underestimated too... some guy fucking ELBOWED me when I tried to push him back cos he kept hitting me when he was jumping. He sent me flying... I went back there and elbowed him in the ribs as hard as I could... fucking prick... there's no excuse to go around getting violent with people.

Dudes - so glad that I am reading my buddy's posts and all the weird shit that people are saying about him...the ballet? a lesbian bar? grow up.

Anyway, I just wanted to share the story that has been mentioned a few times - I was on Stone's side, not far from the sound booth, and I was getting pushed around by asshole kids and dumb frat boys who think that they have a god-given right to go wherever the hell they want to go by crowd-surfing and not care how many people they kick in the goddamn head or shove out of the way. While trying to dodge a crowd-surfer, I apparently ended up inadvertently stepping in front of the guy who had been standing next to me. He decided, drunk asshole that he was, that this was an affront to his sensibilities. He screamed, "you bitch!", then threw a hard elbow into my right eye. I hit the ground instantly, saw stars, and could barely breathe. I was nearly trampled on the ground while I was out for a few moments. Thankfully, other real PJ fans tried to catch him - but he managed to melt into the crowd very quickly before they could grab ahold of him. Several folks donated their very well-needed water to me and helped me up. A few of them got a security guard, but alas there was nothing to he could do. I finally was able to stand, but my eye had completely swollen shut.

I managed to move, with some assistance, far far back to the nearest bar area, where I bought a pop to hold on my eye. The concessions lady, saint that she was, realized what i was doing and said, "honey, you need some real ice on that". She supplied me with a cup full of ice, and kept me refilled for free for the rest of the night. I wanted to leave (I was alone this whole time) because it hurt so bloody awful, but she told me, "If you leave, that jerk wins". So I stayed.

And I stayed far away, but I was still hot and sweaty and in the range of the occasional crowd-surfing jerk, but the folks around me kept an eye out for me (since I only had one!) and managed to redirect crowd-surfers away from me for the rest of the night. To them, the real PJ folks, I am eternally grateful.

I love PJ and have been to many, many shows, and this was not my greatest PJ experience, but I am with VeddHead: You are likely to have a bad show once in a while, and I had mine, and it sounds like others did too. So don't knock it. Or I'll elbow you in the face.

Mantra Slider wrote:

Whole webcast posted on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/0Mandarina0

Thanks!