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Same, on the seats....Vedd Hedd wrote:I do, though, look forward to a regular Pearl Jam show. with Assigned seats.
It was hard to enjoy an otherwise great show and great moment.
Watched a little from behide the stage in the artist lounge....
Then move to the side and could only see Matt's sticks & Boom's heading moving...
All in all, a good Lollapalooza also enjoyed seeing The Cribs & Ghostland Observatory
2006 Lollapalooza, had a better over all line up.0 -
Just back from the fantastic weekend in Chicago-- totally exhausted, but everything was well worth it. Agree with earlier posts that the shows were great, between the two, great mix of songs and crowds and energy. Thanks for all who have posted videos and links.
Weirdest moment from last night: during the drum solo/fireworks, some random guy walks past me carring three beers, stops in front of me (I'm not wearing a PJ shirt, not near the front) and says "Matt Cameron's a jerk". Then walks away."You look like you'd be sticky" --
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Sexy2aFault wrote:You are too old, let it go.
yeah, im guessing 9 outta 10 people complaining about the rowdiness of the crowd were moshing and crowd surfing to nirvana and pearl jam 10-15 years ago the first time they played lolla.0 -
"matt cameron's a jerk".........did you reply with, "matt cameron's a drummer"IndySarah wrote:Just back from the fantastic weekend in Chicago-- totally exhausted, but everything was well worth it. Agree with earlier posts that the shows were great, between the two, great mix of songs and crowds and energy. Thanks for all who have posted videos and links.
Weirdest moment from last night: during the drum solo/fireworks, some random guy walks past me carring three beers, stops in front of me (I'm not wearing a PJ shirt, not near the front) and says "Matt Cameron's a jerk". Then walks away.live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.0 -
Vedd Hedd wrote:It has nothing to do with being old, its about the disrespectful people around us.
There was a group of three girls next to us who talked throughout the entire show. I now know who each of them is hooking up with, how much weed they smoked, and how much they love "the older pj", as they kept saying.
Then, as we had our spot since noon, it was really nice to see people, drunk, slam their way into a wall of people. The people in front of me got knocked down several times, as did I, because people were trying to sneak down front. And there was no room to begin with.
By the time they got to education, the crowd died. No idea what they were hearing. Which is fine because not everyone is as big a fan as most of us, but at least be respectful to those who want to hear the show. When you hear a song you don't know, its not time for a chit chat session. And if you are going to talk to the people around you, at least try to not include the whole audience in the convo.
Then even flow was next, and the crowd surfing resumed. Which in itself is fine. If its done right. People lift you up and its a crowd effort to keep you going. You don't jump on the shoulders of someone you don't know to try to climb on the crowd. But there were at least a dozen by us, several of which landed on our heads. No need for a heel to the skull.
When ed got to the no more war part, and was talking about thomas young, I heard several people say, "shut the fuck up." ok, so you don't agree with his politics, but be respectful of the people who want to hear.
I had enough when I heard the boos for thomas young. Not overwhelming, but enough to piss me off.
I know one of my friends was elbowed in the face, causing her eye to swell shut.
Personally, I was there since the gates opened at 11, made it to the pj stage by noon, and ended up staying there.
It was too hot for my taste, got a litte sunburned, so the pushing and closeness of the crowd exacerbated the prob.
I thought pj was good, but out of the 25 some shows I've seen, I thought it was average. But I got to hear education, so that helped. And the no more war thing, and everyone on stage at the end, that was fun. But 12 hours in that sun and heat was too much for me. I'm not very sun-friendly.
Overall, I'd rather be at a regular pj show, with a regular pj crowd. That doesent make me old. Just experienced.
I'm glad some people had a good time. I hate to put a damper on anyone elses great experience. Once I moved away from the crowd I was in, we were ok, but I was so hot and tired by then it didn't help much.
And the crowd was definitely rude. Most of the people who were 10c or had pj shirts were polite and respectful of the people around them, but there were a lot of really rude people. And anytime I see pushing and people getting knocked down, I get worried. People get hot and drunk and angry and I didn't want it to escalate and watch people get hurt. Or stepped on, which is why I'll stick with 10c shows from now on.
wow man, where were you? i didnt see anything half that bad going on... i wonder if those 3 girls were the ones next to us at muse. they were smoking up the whole muse set and talking about how they lvoed muse. the one was kinda cute though so i didnt mind em
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soulsinging wrote:wow man, where were you? i didnt see anything half that bad going on... i wonder if those 3 girls were the ones next to us at muse. they were smoking up the whole muse set and talking about how they lvoed muse. the one was kinda cute though so i didnt mind em

I was Stones side, about 50 feet back, but had to retreat. Im guessing it would have been better had I been either closer or further away.
If I was way up front, there would have been no place for the pushers to go. Further back, nobody pusing.
Which is exactly what I did.
Again, I am used to rowdy crowds, and actually, in come cases prefer them.
But there was so much going on, and so many people causing problems, I seriously couldnt enjoy the show.
But I liked PJ's performance.
I'll add this.....why do they feel the need to schedule this during what is typically the hottest week in Chicago? Temp was 88, with 65-75% humidity, thats like 100 degree heat index.Turn this anger into
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JUST GOT HOME
what an experience !!!!!!!!!
too fuckin hot lol
stood on the hill by the wine tent
good show crowd sucked around us besides a few diehards
trix and xman,, we had a fun day eh???0 -
I thought the setlist was really good. Im glad they worked some less common ones in there. Why Go was a kickass opener, defintly got the crowd pumped. I thought every member of the band had a little trouble with their sound until pretty far into the first set. Someone might have mentioned this but i think Life Wasted was played in a lower key, but that just could be me. I thought it was a nice change though.
As for where i was sitting, i didnt camp out really. I did see KOL which was awesome and MMJ, but wasnt up too close. Like 15 minutes before PJ i found i nice spot a little to the left of the sound board and it was on a little incline so i could see the stage perfectly. Id say i was about 60-70 ft away from the stage which was fine. Overall everything was perfect. Great weekend.0 -
Left Cincinnati at 9:00, parked in garage at Michingan Ave. around 2:00, got to AT&T stage , posted up about 30 rows back for the fist act (no clue who they were, Rappers), moved up between sets, slowly and respectfully while people were filing out, KOL set was about 20 back, about 15 back or MMJ, that was about as far as we got, on stones side, it could ahve been 10, either way it was a great view, the crowd surfers got on most peoples nerves, it was hot and sweaty, ran out of water around the middle of MMJ set, dying of thirst and heat........It rocked, wouldn't change anything......the opener set the stage.......got back to garage about 11:30 (chi-town time) got to Cincy around 6:00 am (cincy time), left for work at 7:00 set out on a job site in 95 degree weather til 5:00 pm.....still worth every second......Cheers,
NEWAGEHIPPIE
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Vedd Hedd wrote:I was Stones side, about 50 feet back, but had to retreat. Im guessing it would have been better had I been either closer or further away.
If I was way up front, there would have been no place for the pushers to go. Further back, nobody pusing.
Which is exactly what I did.
Again, I am used to rowdy crowds, and actually, in come cases prefer them.
But there was so much going on, and so many people causing problems, I seriously couldnt enjoy the show.
But I liked PJ's performance.
I'll add this.....why do they feel the need to schedule this during what is typically the hottest week in Chicago? Temp was 88, with 65-75% humidity, thats like 100 degree heat index.
Sounds like you were a few in front of us, we would see surfers coming and immediately about 6 of us guys would throw them to the security guards.....
We eventually literally formed a wall and said fuck you to anyone who tried to sneak by, didn't care if your brother's sister's aunt's nephew's cousin' who was in from Antartica was "up there holding my spot", nobody got through, unless of course, we knew you had been in front of us when we got there and we made exceptions......I think most of the surfers came your way.....Cheers,
NEWAGEHIPPIE
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NY PJ1 wrote:JUST GOT HOME
what an experience !!!!!!!!!
too fuckin hot lol
stood on the hill by the wine tent
good show crowd sucked around us besides a few diehards
trix and xman,, we had a fun day eh???
I had a blast the whole weekend and being on the hill was great, there was the breeze and the view of the band was pretty good too. the lack of passion by the crowd doesn't bother me, it is what it is and they paid their money too so nothing you can do about that.Reading 2004
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Chicago 2007
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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xavier mcdaniel wrote:I had a blast the whole weekend and being on the hill was great, there was the breeze and the view of the band was pretty good too. the lack of passion by the crowd doesn't bother me, it is what it is and they paid their money too so nothing you can do about that.
HEY WHAT WAS THE CD U GOT LAST NIGHT ?? THE VIC?0 -
newagehippie wrote:Left Cincinnati at 9:00, parked in garage at Michingan Ave. around 2:00, got to AT&T stage , posted up about 30 rows back for the fist act (no clue who they were, Rappers), moved up between sets, slowly and respectfully while people were filing out, KOL set was about 20 back, about 15 back or MMJ, that was about as far as we got, on stones side, it could ahve been 10, either way it was a great view, the crowd surfers got on most peoples nerves, it was hot and sweaty, ran out of water around the middle of MMJ set, dying of thirst and heat........It rocked, wouldn't change anything......the opener set the stage.......got back to garage about 11:30 (chi-town time) got to Cincy around 6:00 am (cincy time), left for work at 7:00 set out on a job site in 95 degree weather til 5:00 pm.....still worth every second......
Holy dogshit!! Thats crazy!! I'm impressed.Turn this anger into
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this all sounds great to me. being around cool pearl jam fans during a hot summer day at Lolla to see pj rock or… being around disrespectful people at a crazy hot day in hell at Lolla to see pearl jam play with technical glitches. it’s all the same to me. out here 17.000 kilometers away.
and for those of you who wonder… 17.000 km is a loooong distance.
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It really was a great concert experience...
I'm not too sure I would change anything if I could, except maybe a longer set0 -
I made it a point to see as many bands as i could over the weekend . Then at 3:45 yesterday, it was off to the AT&T Stage. Even checked out Kidzapalooza . No Ed sighting Saturday or Sunday , but did get to hear Perry Farrell and Peter Di Stefano playing with some kick ass young musicians. Given the amount of syrupy slop masquerading as music today, I pray the School of Rock kids keep rockin' . Met Perry and Peter and thanked them for Porno For Pyros and Perry for Lolla.
Kings were amazing. Ed's guest spot was an large exclamation point . Don't know if PETT ( People for the Ethical Treatment of Tambourines) is amused but I got tired just watching Ed demolish two more. I too would've loved an ED/MMJ guest spot , but MMJ and the Chicago Youth Symphony together were awesome.
Now to the main course. PJ gets a 10 , maybe a Spinal Tap 11, , on a scale of one to TEN , for energy . I given them an eight for content. Any show featuring "Education" , a pointed request to boycott BP Amoco with an accompanying Improv like "Don't Go BP Amoco " , " No More " , and even "Not For You" and "Lukin" ( as opposed to , say, "Last Kiss" and "Jeremy" ) meant this wasn't a typical play the radio hits festival set. Good stuff. Ben Harper singing on "No More" was incredible. I saw him at MSG in 03 and actually preferred Lolla more. The passion of the singers and the song...priceless . Also , great EXCLAMATION POINT /free for all closer in RITFW . Boom was the lucky one, surrounded as he is by keyboards, on the encore. Most of the stage looked like a fire drill in progress.
I could talk about the numerous idiots without a village who should form a Polyphonic Spree sized band called Assoles and ( or with ) Elbows , but then I'll be called a spoiled, humourless , sixty-eight show ,and counting , 48 year old . So I'll quit while I'm behind.
Saw , met , and got reacquainted alot of really great PJ fans. Jolie and Sara, you ladies are the bomb. Thanks for the pleasure of your company . You and PJ made my weekend .
Laura , Carol , and everyone at Wishlist, THANK YOU for a great event Saturday! Congrats for all your successes to dates and here's wishing y'all every success in the events and years to come!
Finally , to one guy whose name I didn't get ,but whose stories of the famous 26 ' F Alpine Valley show, were great for state of mind...cheers!
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NY PJ1 wrote:HEY WHAT WAS THE CD U GOT LAST NIGHT ?? THE VIC?
it was the complete vic show and some bonus stuff at the end of the second cd, including one song which I always wanted because it's really such a rarity.Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."0 -
We were up on the hill behind the wine area and I just have to say kudos to all of you guys who toughed it out at the front in that heat all day. Watching the field, especially during Alive, was a sight to behold!
The only regret I have is not being a little closer. After our first two PJ shows being surrounded by die hard fans it was kind of wierd being pretty much the only ones singing and freaking out (except for the handful of other PJ fans that were up there). I think I actually offended some of the people around me with my "OMFG" comment when Education started (it was rude, I know, but it just slipped out!).
As for the show itself, I thought it was great. There were definitely some sound issues, but they didn't sound terrible and I thought the setlist was great for a festival. Any show with Education is a 10 in my book : )2006: Boston I, Camden II
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
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Tangerine wrote:We were up on the hill behind the wine area and I just have to say kudos to all of you guys who toughed it out at the front in that heat all day. Watching the field, especially during Alive, was a sight to behold!
The only regret I have is not being a little closer. After our first two PJ shows being surrounded by die hard fans it was kind of wierd being pretty much the only ones singing and freaking out (except for the handful of other PJ fans that were up there). I think I actually offended some of the people around me with my "OMFG" comment when Education started (it was rude, I know, but it just slipped out!).
As for the show itself, I thought it was great. There were definitely some sound issues, but they didn't sound terrible and I thought the setlist was great for a festival. Any show with Education is a 10 in my book : )
sounds like you were not far from me.Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."0 -
Vedd Hedd wrote:It has nothing to do with being old, its about the disrespectful people around us.
There was a group of three girls next to us who talked throughout the entire show. I now know who each of them is hooking up with, how much weed they smoked, and how much they love "the older pj", as they kept saying.
Then, as we had our spot since noon, it was really nice to see people, drunk, slam their way into a wall of people. The people in front of me got knocked down several times, as did I, because people were trying to sneak down front. And there was no room to begin with.
By the time they got to education, the crowd died. No idea what they were hearing. Which is fine because not everyone is as big a fan as most of us, but at least be respectful to those who want to hear the show. When you hear a song you don't know, its not time for a chit chat session. And if you are going to talk to the people around you, at least try to not include the whole audience in the convo.
Then even flow was next, and the crowd surfing resumed. Which in itself is fine. If its done right. People lift you up and its a crowd effort to keep you going. You don't jump on the shoulders of someone you don't know to try to climb on the crowd. But there were at least a dozen by us, several of which landed on our heads. No need for a heel to the skull.
When ed got to the no more war part, and was talking about thomas young, I heard several people say, "shut the fuck up." ok, so you don't agree with his politics, but be respectful of the people who want to hear.
I had enough when I heard the boos for thomas young. Not overwhelming, but enough to piss me off.
I know one of my friends was elbowed in the face, causing her eye to swell shut.
Personally, I was there since the gates opened at 11, made it to the pj stage by noon, and ended up staying there.
It was too hot for my taste, got a litte sunburned, so the pushing and closeness of the crowd exacerbated the prob.
I thought pj was good, but out of the 25 some shows I've seen, I thought it was average. But I got to hear education, so that helped. And the no more war thing, and everyone on stage at the end, that was fun. But 12 hours in that sun and heat was too much for me. I'm not very sun-friendly.
Overall, I'd rather be at a regular pj show, with a regular pj crowd. That doesent make me old. Just experienced.
I'm glad some people had a good time. I hate to put a damper on anyone elses great experience. Once I moved away from the crowd I was in, we were ok, but I was so hot and tired by then it didn't help much.
And the crowd was definitely rude. Most of the people who were 10c or had pj shirts were polite and respectful of the people around them, but there were a lot of really rude people. And anytime I see pushing and people getting knocked down, I get worried. People get hot and drunk and angry and I didn't want it to escalate and watch people get hurt. Or stepped on, which is why I'll stick with 10c shows from now on.
You are absolutely right... spot on about everything you could have been standing right next to me, but you were on the other side.
I was on Mike's side... six rows back or so and 15 feet from the center rail. I also got their at 11:00... I ran out of water at 5:30 because I was sharing with everyone around us. My wife and I stood their with about 6 other PJ fans the entire day... One guy made a drink run and picked up 15 bottles of water and 15 bottles of Vitamin Water (saved my life) We were set...
We also retreated to the grassy area by the fence and bathrooms, left right in the middle of Alive, the behavior was horrible... it was a bum rush to the front, crowd surfing that really wasn't because it was people just throwng themselves on top of their friends and anyone around them. I had to leave, maybe I'm too old, but I am old enough to take myself out of a ridiculous situation.Chatdean
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